Hey folks. Not sur how many of you have tats. But I am comtemplating getting another one at this point which would be #5. I really would like to honor cluster headache and/or clusterheads. I remember a link having this discussion probably 10 years ago or mor but not sur but if any of you have any pics or ideas, please share. Much lvu and PF wishes.

Pfunk 8-)

Not my thing but I do know of some cool artwork.....I'll see if I can locate it....

J. Fletcher drew this about 10 yrs. ago.  I hate tattoes but if I was going to have one regarding CH...this would be it !!!   it says it all.   I am not certain if he ever copywrited this or not,  but you get the picture.  I can imagine someone with this tat on their arm, pulling up his sleeve to show what this horror we go thru really LOOKS like.

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If you substitute the words "right to copy" for "copyright" in the following, it helps explain it:


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Here's the thing about copyright law: A creator holds the copyright for any piece they've created the moment it is created. Whether or not that copyright is registered is up to the legal owner of that copyright. And whether or not it's registered has no legal bearing on its existence. That person or entity still owns the copyright.

Here's how it would read:

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Here's the thing about "right to copy" law: A creator holds the "right to copy" for any piece they've created the moment it is created. Whether or not that "right to copy" is registered is up to the legal owner of that "right to copy." And whether or not it's registered has no legal bearing on its existence. That person or entity still owns the "right to copy."

Another way to look at it is this: the right to copy a piece of art belongs to the artist (or their designee) whether or not it is registered.

If you're going to get something tattooed on you, it'd be best for you to have the owner's permission.

I totally agree Bill, which is why I put that there.  J. Fletchers picture is all over the internet however.   He donated a few pieces of his artwork (this one included)  at the aucttion in Atlanta in 2000 I believe.

I'd be happy to find out that he has no objection to it being used though.  It's an awesome drawing.   No one has heard from him in a while.    :-/

This may not relate but just why have tattoos become such a craze over the last couple decades?

I have no idea but then it would never occur to me to get one. I don't see many among my boomer friends for that matter.

Charlie

I hear ya Charlie.  Most boomers have a tat that says something like U.S.M.C.   or MOM.   Last week I sat next to a very obese, smelly woman on a plane from L.A. who had Tat  sleeves, tats down her neck, tats down her legs and feet and her tats all said something to the effect of F-you.   I was not happy sitting next to her for 4 hours.

P-funk...I am certainly not saying you have offensive ink...just saying that some of us really don't "get it" when we see some that do.

I have never seen a tattoo which I would frame and hang on my wall, so why would I have it permanently inscribed on my body? 

I'm with Charlie, I just don't get it.

But I'm also of the live and let live variety, so have at it, if you want one!

Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 30^th, 2011 at 6:59pm:

I hear ya Charlie.  Most boomers have a tat that says something like U.S.M.C.   or MOM.   ...................

I met a 60 something year old lady with the word SON on her shoulder. I tried to stop myself but help but laugh out load. She just smiled sweetly..........

Marc

Tattooing is a form of body beautification, and spiritual or tribal rites of passage that has existed since before recorded history. 

It certainly isn't a new craze in any way. 

I think THIS is more what Charlie had in mind Pegg when he said he doesn't get it.  Centuries ago it did not look like this:

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I don't get it either.  The woman sitting next to me on the plane looked somewhat  like several of these combined. 

It took me 40 yrs to get my 1st and only tattoo which is located on my chest and I have no regrets. 

I believe a tattoo is extremely personal and must have personal meaning to that individual getting inked, otherwise it will be most likely be a future regret.

A CH tattoo would certainly be extremely rare, personal and w/ plenty of meaning for any of us. 

I personally would not choose a tattoo of anything CH related, as CH's have destroyed most aspects of my life and would not want the constant reminder, especially when in remission. 

The only time I want to concentrate on CH's is to educate myself and others and of course to be supportive to others afflicted. 

Other than that, CH's are a living nightmare, the worst experience of my life, and certainly not on my Top 10 list for a life-long reminder placed on my body.

Just curious...if you were to get a CH tattoo, where would you mar your skin...would you ink your eye-lid?  forehead?  neck?  scalp? 

"to each his own" and if you do choose to do it, please post your proud photo 8-)

I am going to get my Imitrex injection bruises permanently tatted in place.  My left arm looks like a heroin addicts. 

I agree with Charlie that things have ramped up a bit in the tat space.  Up to the individuals, but there are a lot of sorry-assed meaningless tats around these days.

Contrast that to high-end tats, aka the works of art you see on LA Ink and the like.  A good tat artist has magic. 

I'm not a fan of needles, but that has not stopped me from thinking about getting a tattoo every now and then. I don't have one, because of that fear and because I'm wasn't entirely sure which topic to choose.

These days if I'd get a tattoo, it would definitely be ch related, no doubts about that. But I'm not in a hurry to get one, though.

Sanna

There is no way I'd want one, but if I was to do so and it was going to be CH related then it would be a picture of an oxygen cylinder!

Mike NZ wrote on Aug 31^st, 2011 at 3:15pm:

There is no way I'd want one, but if I was to do so and it was going to be CH related then it would be a picture of an oxygen cylinder!

Or just a decorative "O2"  :D

I'm an old fashioned guy. To me there is nothing decorative about a tattoo. It used to be that they were found on sailors that got drunk enough for a "Mom" or anchors and the like. It was nothing like what we find today.

I guess it's the lastest thing now. However, have some makeup ready to cover up all the artsy stuff running up and down your neck and foreams when applying for a job.

That's just the way it is.

Charlie

Mike NZ wrote on Aug 31^st, 2011 at 3:15pm:

There is no way I'd want one, but if I was to do so and it was going to be CH related then it would be a picture of an oxygen cylinder!

If and when you decide to do it...perhaps you might as well go large and get the "H" tank  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Charlie wrote on Aug 31^st, 2011 at 4:51pm:

I'm an old fashioned guy. To me there is nothing decorative about a tattoo. It used to be that they were found on sailors that got drunk enough for a "Mom" or anchors and the like. It was nothing like what we find today. I guess it's the lastest thing now. However, have some makeup ready to cover up all the artsy stuff running up and down your neck and foreams when applying for a job. That's just the way it is. Charlie

Charlie, whenl I got out of Marine Advanced Infantry training at Camp Pendleton in 64 a group of us went down to Oceancide to get drunk and have devil dogs tattooed on our arms......got plenty drunk and it didn't really look like it was botherin the guys that got em that bad.....but, for some reason I just couldn't get my head around the "forever" part of it and opted out......never regretted it and never had any inkling of a desire to get one since!!

....evidently help is hard to find here in Dallas though, cause I see folks with tats workin in lots of places.....probably as many women as men!!! 

DD

The employment part comes from stuff I've read over the years. The gist usually involves employers who, at least initially, say that they will likely favor persons without tattoos.

Perhaps my dislike of tattoos comes from the kind of stuff I see worn by young people. I don't get most of the art I see there.

God I sound older by the hour..... 8-)

Charlie

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God I sound older by the hour.....

You are.

But it's okay.

We all are.

and the older you get, the sweeter and more funny you get Charlie.   

            :-*

Well.  Maybe I should never have started this linkas it seems that I have gotten nothing but negative,"I don't like them" responses. For those of you who can't see why someone would have one, in 2000 my Dad died and I got the Italian flag on my chest with his name, I have my family crest on my shoulder, my mom's fam is Irish so i've got 4 leaved clover and my son's name thus evry one has meaning as would a CH TAT which would would honor the many years of pain and suffering that I have gone through as well as honoring my CH family

Pfunk wrote on Aug 31^st, 2011 at 11:50pm:

Well.  Maybe I should never have started this linkas it seems that I have gotten nothing but negative,"I don't like them" responses. For those of you who can't see why someone would have one, in 2000 my Dad died and I got the Italian flag on my chest with his name, I have my family crest on my shoulder, my mom's fam is Irish so i've got 4 leaved clover and my son's name thus evry one has meaning as would a CH TAT which would would honor the many years of pain and suffering that I have gone through as well as honoring my CH family

I respect your choices, very valuable meanings behind each one too.

As mentioned above..."to each his own" ;)

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it seems that I have gotten nothing but negative,"I don't like them" responses.

Oh, I don't know about that. Seems there were a few positives. And a few merely informative.

And over 9,000 members who offered no response at all.

Brew's father had a tattoo that had an funny story.

He got tattooed while in the army.  He got his girlfriend's name on his forearm.  Her name was Marilyn, but he was drunk and spelled it wrong.  Forever after he had "Marlin" tattooed on his body.  And he married Brew's mom, Carol.

By the time I knew him it was just a blue blob under the hair on his forearm, but it still makes me giggle to this day.

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Forever after he had "Marlin" tattooed on his body.

So, you like deep-sea fishing, do you?

It's interesting that this topic came up.  Last week I was visiting a friend at work, he asked why I looked like hell (thanks Bill).  I told him to google 'the worst pain known to man'.  The first thing he said after seeing this image on wikipedia was that it would make a great tatoo:

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Ive got 5 tatoo's and all have a significant meaning behind them.  Tatoo's are not that painful.  It is a very small needle.  The only time it hurt me was when it was against my collarbone.  I think it is a great idea and would say put a lot of thought into what design is going to be used because it will be there for life.  Otherwise enjoy and have fun with it.

jhammer wrote on Sep 1^st, 2011 at 10:43am:

It's interesting that this topic came up.  Last week I was visiting a friend at work, he asked why I looked like hell (thanks Bill).  I told him to google 'the worst pain known to man'.  The first thing he said after seeing this image on wikipedia was that it would make a great tatoo:

Again, best to get the artist's permission to avoid copyright infringement problems down the line.

Pfunk wrote on Aug 31^st, 2011 at 11:50pm:

Well.  Maybe I should never have started this linkas it seems that I have gotten nothing but negative,"I don't like them" responses. For those of you who can't see why someone would have one, in 2000 my Dad died and I got the Italian flag on my chest with his name, I have my family crest on my shoulder, my mom's fam is Irish so i've got 4 leaved clover and my son's name thus evry one has meaning as would a CH TAT which would would honor the many years of pain and suffering that I have gone through as well as honoring my CH family

Pfunk- Those that voiced their opinion that they don't like them, had no bearing on whether you get one or not.  They were just in general conversation and they were only opinions on personal choice for them.

Nothing more. :)

Now, as for me, I do have 1 tattoo I got 1 month after my mother died.  Now, 10 years later, I have only recently began wondering if I want it to stay or not.  It's strange, as I've never thought anything negative about it up to this point, but it might be because my step dad has a tatt in the same spot and he is not a person I want to associate with anymore (long story).

Anyway, maybe you could ask someone who's art you like, to draw one up for you?

Pfunk. Don't worry about what others think. I believe most where just saying that "they" don't want one. It's YOUR body. My first tattoo was with a bunch of Clusterheads. There are alot of Clusterheads with CH tattoos. My tattoo is not so much Clusterhead related, BUT it has a meaning TO ME. I always think of my Clusterhead pals whenever I look at it. It reminds me of the nightmare I had for 25 years and the bond we had that weekend. Since "that one", I've had two others. One is a cross with angel wings and my son's name on it. He passed away. The other is an eagle with an anchor and flag and USN. ALL 3 have a big meaning TO ME. Truthfully I could care less if anyone else doesn't like it.

Now if I can just figure out what the NEXT one will be.  :D

Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 30^th, 2011 at 9:38pm:

I think THIS is more what Charlie had in mind Pegg when he said he doesn't get it.  Centuries ago it did not look like this:   START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE I don't get it either.  The woman sitting next to me on the plane looked somewhat  like several of these combined.

There are tribes in this world in which full "body armor" tattoos were a rite of passage.  They were done in a mass ceremony over days or weeks and they would lay on one side of the body until the job was done there, rested till it healed enough to turn over then the other body side is done. 

There is another group in which it is the girls face that is tattooed in an intricate pattern when she is of the age of marriage.  The female elder who will do the work studies the girls features and bone structure and creates the pattern then goes to work.

With all things, tattoos are another thing that has evolved over time.  The themes of the artwork are as individual as the human beings who choose them.

That said...I have 3 tattoos.  2 are fairly large by conservative standards, and one is about the size of a half dollar maybe. 

Thinking to have that covered up with something mushroom related.   ;)

I apologize to most as I may have been a little over sensitive there. And thanks to others for completely understanding where I'm coming from. Jhammer, is that not an awesome pic? I have that pic permanately posted on my FB page and scare the hell out of some of my friends, A few years ago, someone on here gave it to me as a suggestion for my tat and I was really ready to do it. Then my son was born. At that point that one turned into a tat for him. Also I thought maybe that might scare him a bit when he grew up a little bit. However, I do haave 3 tattoo artists in Charleston who are still begging me to do that work for me.

Pfunk 8-)

Redd wrote on Sep 1^st, 2011 at 9:22pm:

There are tribes in this world in which full "body armor" tattoos were a rite of passage.  They were done in a mass ceremony over days or weeks and they would lay on one side of the body until the job was done there, rested till it healed enough to turn over then the other body side is done.  There is another group in which it is the girls face that is tattooed in an intricate pattern when she is of the age of marriage.  The female elder who will do the work studies the girls features and bone structure and creates the pattern then goes to work. With all things, tattoos are another thing that has evolved over time.  The themes of the artwork are as individual as the human beings who choose them. That said...I have 3 tattoos.  2 are fairly large by conservative standards, and one is about the size of a half dollar maybe.  Thinking to have that covered up with something mushroom related.   ;)

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I have two TATS that I regret.    Different age... Different day.

    some time they will have some way to remove them with out too much trouble.      
   Save your breath... Those who wish to get one.. won't listen anyway.

         

In these past several days of reading this thread, I am now considering getting my 2nd tattoo.

I love the drawing of the demon digging into the eye.

As mentioned from others..."best to get the artist's permission to avoid copyright infringement problems down the line."

I have a few tat's and no regrets...probably get atleast 1 more....one man's meat is another man's poison...I say if you dont like it you dont have to look. No offense meant to those who dont :). If you do end up with one I'd love to see it! In fact you've given me a few ideas ;)

Wow I love the CH Tat I was thinking on getting a breast cancer tat. But now I'm a survivor and my life is all about CH's most of my Dr's don't understand the pain we go through. All I would hv to do is show my Tat. I do carry some of the letters from this sight just to give them a Idea or to refresh their memory of Ch's . Haven't found many Dr's nor Neuro Dr's that take me serious.

Three. No regrets.

None. No regrets either.