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Title: New User Julie 40 UK Post by julie71 on Oct 22nd, 2011 at 5:44am
Hi all
I just found this site and am happy to take any advice offered. I was diagnosed with Cluster Headaches in June this year after being admitted to hospital with a suspected stroke. I am not sure if it is relevent or not but I will give all the information I can. A week before this hospital visit I woke in the night with what it seems was a anaphalactic reaction (at the time I thought I was dying). I was kept in for two days and then released, the hospital could not work out what I was alergic to but gave me an Epipen in case it happened again. A week later I woke in the night with excruciating pains in the left side of my head and neck - it felt like someone was trying to push my eyeball out from the inside), after a sleepless night and several hot baths I managed to go to work the next day but noticed that although the pain had eased the left side of my face was drooping so I went to my GP who had me admitted with the suspected stroke. After 2 weeks in hospital loads of tests and a lot of disagreement amongst the doctors a neorologist told me I had cluster headaches, he tried me on steroids, oxygen and a few other pills (sorry cant remember the names) none of which seemed to help. The only thing that seemed to offer any relief was the oral morphine - at least this knocked me out for a few hours so I could sleep. Eventually the neurologist allowed me to go home, his words were "you might as well feel crappy at home as in the hospital". I was sent home with Tramadol, Codeine and prednisolene, I was off work for a few more weeks and back and to to my gp with no joy before the headaches started to ease off and I thought great. I actually felt so well I realised just how bad I had felt before if you know what I mean. Imagine my dismay when I started having headaches again this week, I hoped it was just common or garden hedaches but last night I realised that this was not the case, I am not being treated with anything at the moment, the only thing that offers me any relief is hot baths and this doesnt last long, my eye and face have drooped again and I really dont know what to do, my gp is shut because it is Saturday, I really dont want to go back to hospital if I can help it, I was made to feel like a real timewaster last time. Until I found this site today I thought Cluster headachaches were just a way of the doctors saying get lost. I am so grateful to have found you, just reading some of your stories has made me feel that this is something real and pardon the pun - not all in my head. Hope to hear from you soon Julie |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by julie71 on Oct 22nd, 2011 at 5:10pm
Thank you for your replies, I managed to get an appointment with an out of hours doctor today who seemed to understand CH more than my own GP he has given me 2 single dose imigran nasal sprays and Co-dydramol. I have been out and bought some energy drinks as advised but
I have to say I am sitting here now at 10pm and am exhausted but too scared to go to bed. I hope this stuff works but dont think I can cope with another night like last night. I am going to see my GP on monday and will ask about a headache clinic (I never knew they existed). |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by Mike NZ on Oct 22nd, 2011 at 9:59pm
Hi Julie
You've got some good advice so far and I'd suggest you read like mad through the various posts on the forums here. You'll soon learn a lot more about CHs and their treatment than any of the doctors you've seen so far. The imigran nasal spray will help (imitrex) although the injectable form works even better to kill off a CH. The Co-dydramol is a combination of paracetamol and codeine (narcotic). This will not touch the pain of a CH, it'll take 20+ minutes to take effect (too slow for CH) and it's unlikely to do you any good based on experience both personal and from others. What you do need is a preventive, something like verapamil or lithium, with a taper dose of prednisione which will work as a short term preventive whilst the other one builds up. To kill off a CH look at oxygen (a life changer for me) with info on the left and imigran injections (known as imitrex). Keep reading and asking questions. Everyone here knows just what CHs are like. |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by Headache Boy uk on Oct 23rd, 2011 at 8:00pm Hi Julie This place is a massive library of info on CH , the perfect place to ask questions (even if you think they sound like stupid ones) and even a place to have a rant about useless doctors etc. Wishing you the very best of luck with the wonderful ,speedy and efficient NHS >:( ;D Seriously I hope you find the magic formula soon. The imigran nasal spray is a step in the right direction , I'm using the indictable form which I find nail the beast every time. Energy drinks are good for taming shadows ,I get through an awful lot of Red Bull at the moment since I have been getting shadows several times a day for the past two years since my last cycle ended. Any how good luck and God bless Nigel |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by wimsey1 on Oct 24th, 2011 at 8:05am
Hey there, Julie, and welcome! Here's another vote for imitrex injectables, O2 and energy drinks just in case you needed another opinion. And as to it all being in your head, well of course it is, and it is real pain, too! Don't waste another second thinking you thought this into existence. You did not. Best as we can tell we hit the lottery on some kind of physical deformation of the hypothalmus, or something. So while we don't know why this happens, or how to cure it, we are learning a great deal about how to tame the beast. Hang in there and keep posting. We want to hear how you progress. God bless. lance
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Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by julie71 on Oct 24th, 2011 at 10:54am
Hi again
Well I went to see my own GP today and am now torn between upset and angry (get ready for a rant). I have had several really bad nights, hubby has been kept awake too. When I saw the out of hours doctor on Saturday he only gave me 2 doses of the imigram nasal spray, which I am still unsure about but have run out of now anyway(don't really know what to expect from it). Anyway I walked into my GP armed with loads of information (for the first time since I was diagnosed) unfortunately the beast kicked in in the car on the way to the docs, hubby was driving while I was crying and thinking at least the doctor will have to believe me this time. :( The result an appointment that lasted less than 5 minutes another course of prednisilone, 2 more imigran nasal sprays and nortriptolene (spelling) tablets. I asked for a referral to a headache clinic or a neurologist and was told it wasnt necessary it would just take trial and patience to get my MIGRAINES under control. I reminded the doctor that a neorologist has already diagnosed Cluster Headaches and that there is a difference and mentioned that the prescription was for just 2 imigran again and that I am having a few headaches a day and definately one really bad one at night, he said just use the imigran when i really need it and hopefully with the steriods i will be ok in a couple of days. Now I may be moaning about nothing here but remember than throughout this conversation i was gripping my head and struggling to focus on a conversation as well as stay in a seat with tears streaming down my face. I feel that I have just been brushed off again. Before I left hubby booked me an appointment with another doctor for the day after tomorrow :'( Am I over reacting here, is it right just to be getting 2 nasal sprays at a time and is the other stuff going to do me any good. |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by Guiseppi on Oct 24th, 2011 at 11:53am
Sadly, you were seen by one of the doctors who doesn't think he has a God Complex, but sincerely believes God has a doctor complex. A stiff necked, pompous, ass-wipe know it all who doesn't listen to his patient becuase how the hell could you possibly know more then an all knowing, all wise omnipotent God like him? Besides, you're a woman so ANY head pain has to be a migrain >:(
Shake the dust of that pompous ass off your sandals and move on to another doctor. This one will never help you. The Nortriptyline has been used by a few people on this board, with mixed results. From Wikipedia: Nortriptyline is a second-generation tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) marketed as the hydrochloride salt under the trade names Sensoval, Aventyl, Pamelor, Norpress, Allegron, Noritren and Nortrilen. It is used in the treatment of major depression and childhood nocturnal enuresis (bedwetting). In addition, it is sometimes used for chronic illnesses such as chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pain and migraine, and labile affect in some neurological conditions I just can't see this as a first line prevent with so many other treatments available with a MUCH higher success rate. Hang in there, it can take some work to find a good doc but the long term benefits make the journey well worth it. Consider contacting your insurance company directly for a referral to a headache specialist neurologist, based on this doctors unwillingness to refer you. Might be able to bypass another GP visit. Joe |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by julie71 on Oct 24th, 2011 at 1:16pm
ok I feel a bit better now, thought maybe I was over reacting. Unfortuntely I live in the UK which means that unless I go private (not an option financially) I need to be referred to a neurologist by a gp or be admitted to hosp to see one (which if the last few nights are anything to go by is actually becomming an option, if only for a bit of relief)
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Julie |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by Mike NZ on Oct 24th, 2011 at 2:28pm
Hi Julie
Are there other GPs at the practice you go to? If so, I'd go see one of them, otherwise change GPs. The only way to deal with CH is to take charge of your own destiny, not take no for an answer and get the treatment you need and deserve. Hope you get some improvement soon. |
Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by julie71 on Oct 24th, 2011 at 2:39pm
Yes there are other doctors and hubby has booked me an appointment with one of the others for day after tomorrow (knowing I will have run out of imigran by then). Can I also check dosage with you guys I have just done a bit of reading and my nortripyline at 10mg per day seems very low. My Imigran spray is a 10 mg dose and i am allowed one per 24 hours
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Title: Re: New User Julie 40 UK Post by Bob Johnson on Oct 25th, 2011 at 9:14am
Please! resolve the question about your location--it's messing up the kinds of information we can usefully offer!
--- Please tell us where you live. Follow the next line to a message which explains why knowing your location and your medical history will help us to help you. Cluster Headache Help and Support › Getting to Know Ya › Newbies, Help us...help you You can add your location by editing your profile. CP Member --> profile BUT, Please!, don't post your messages at this location. They won't get the attention you want: use the appropriate sections which follow. ========== IF you are in the UK, contact the support group I first metioned. They can guide you to a headache clinic and not get caught in a cycle of referrals, etc. |
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