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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Something NEW that is working for me http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1322337754 Message started by wgardens on Nov 26th, 2011 at 3:02pm |
Title: Something NEW that is working for me Post by wgardens on Nov 26th, 2011 at 3:02pm
A day or two ago I posted here about something which had worked to stop my cluster pain within seconds - I was so elated at my 'miracle' that I came here to say 'hey! look what this does!' In hindsight, I should have worded the post much differently, as I know some people took great offense at what I had tried, and didn't want others doing it. I want to point out that I do not in anyway advocate the recreation use of any drug to any person. I believe they destroy lives. So I have edited this to remove the post in question, and thank the ones who (whether in a nice or not-so-nice way) pointed out that I should not be posting my experiences.
So now on to the DEA to find a way for them to allow some cluster-related studies! |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Brew on Nov 26th, 2011 at 3:29pm Quote:
Just my humble opinion, but you are dead wrong. |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Mike NZ on Nov 26th, 2011 at 3:36pm
Other preventives to look at include lithium, topomax or a combination of lithium and verapamil.
Also have a look at the topic 123 pain free days... in this part of the forum which lots of people have been having success with. For abortives oxygen is simply amazing (see oxygen link on the left) plus imitrex. |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by LasVegas on Nov 26th, 2011 at 6:36pm
What are bath salts?
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by LasVegas on Nov 26th, 2011 at 10:43pm
Wow, not for me, but good luck!
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by DJ on Nov 27th, 2011 at 1:30am wgardens wrote on Nov 26th, 2011 at 7:12pm:
You're basically talking about huffing paint or freon to relieve your cluster headache. It's all the same type of shit. This type of abortive therapy is absolutely and completely unacceptable! If are looking for options to relieve your cluster headaches, this is NOT an option! DJ |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 27th, 2011 at 8:52am wgardens wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 7:28am:
Actually what you see pushed here a lot is Oxygen at a high flow rate, Potter |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 27th, 2011 at 11:45am |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Lenny on Nov 27th, 2011 at 1:25pm
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 27th, 2011 at 2:41pm
And only slightly over 10 posts Pat. ;D
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Ricardo on Nov 27th, 2011 at 3:51pm
In the interest of trying to keep people from turning into toothless, raving, possibly dead psychotic amphetamine junkies I decided to cut and paste my response to this same post that was put on clusterbusters....
The reason you haven't heard anyone talk about this as a "buster" is because no one knows what it is--Not even you...All you really know is that you smoke some sort of chemical that people have not been taking for longer than a few years. No one has any clue what it is doing now, tomorrow, a week from now, or 10 years from now. If you were lucky, and actually knew what the hell it was that you were smoking, it would probably be Mephedrone, M.D.P.V.(Methylenedioxypyrovalerone), or methylone--but you're not lucky. The US Government (and a bunch of others) have banned these substances, and as you've said "I tried the new 'legal in 50 states' mix"--So...You have no idea at all what the hell you are taking. In all liklelyhood it is an amphetamine (some of the most dangerous and addictive drugs known to man -ever hear of "amphetamine psychosis"?) I'm not surprised that it works for a cluster....I bet crystal meth would work too--and even save you the time and money that lots of people have wasted on having teeth pulled, cause they'll probably fall out...that's what smoking meth does, and it wouldn't surprise me to see that smoking unlicensed, untested tweaked out amphetamines would do the same. Amphetamines can also send you into weeks of psychosis (even after you've stopped), lead you to very easily become physically addicted, get tolerance to the efffects leading you to need higher and higher doses, cause a neurotoxic reaction in your brain, do kidney damage, cause organ damage, increase your risk of stroke, and a host of other problems any speed freak can tell you. Will that happen with your "bath salts"? Who knows? Nobody. Cause there are very few people that actually know all the ingredients in it, and once you find out WHAT it is, it doesn't really matter--cause nobody's tested this stuff on anyone but YOU, and all the other crazy guinea pigs out there smoking this stuff. I actually think Crystal Meth would be safer.(still not recommended ) Than you could actually know what to look out for and know reactions that are typical and when you have to go to the ER... The comparison with LSD, mushrooms or other tryptamines is complete nonsense. Even if they are not legal, these are drugs that have been researched more than most OTC things on the market AND have a huge record of use. Thousands and Thousands of people have taken LSD, may of them over 50 years ago--the natural hallucinogens have been around for longer than written history. People know what these drugs are going to do.... Instant relief? Oxygen, sumatriptan injections, and smoking DMT all work. The DMT will even work, and then be over within 30 minutes. Can't recommend it though, especially if it you are recreationally smoking meth like drugs....The DMT would open up a can of whoop ass on your brain like you've never experienced, and scare the fug out of you...Or at least that's been the experience with most people who are immersed in unhealthy behavior and smoke that stuff...It's kinda like holding up a mirror and seeing the truth, and some people REALLY don't like that. You might think a lot of people have responded pretty negatively to you in this post--I hope you understand that although you did not come on here recommending that people do this, you did come on here, tempting people with the idea that they could have instant relief from a legal substance that they can get over the internet. And not mentioning that it is a hallucinogenic amphetamine mixture (if you're lucky) that has not even been tested on rats. |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Virginia on Nov 27th, 2011 at 4:12pm
I can only say.....WoW
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Ricardo on Nov 27th, 2011 at 5:59pm wgardens wrote on Nov 27th, 2011 at 4:49pm:
There are threads on this site for marijuana, and it would have made sense if you put it there. Putting it here makes it seem like you just don't like what people have to say and are trying to piss people off. No one except you has mentioned marijuana, and you pulled that off of a line on my clusterbusters profile page where I admitted I smoke weed. You don't like that I smoke weed? OK. established. (even if it has absoloutely nothing to do with ANYTHING AT ALL IN THIS POST. Post that ridiculous Nancy Reagan drug war info in a thread on marijuana and you might get a real response from me. Here though, the only thing I can recommend is a therapist. You are comparing marijuana to amphetamines. Do I really have to point out how stupid that is? Have you actually read what the hell putting amphetamines up your nose does to you? My guess by the way you are acting is that you know all too well what it does to you.... |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Guiseppi on Nov 27th, 2011 at 6:33pm
Welcome to the board Gardens. Please re-read both of the posts by Ricardo. I could not have said it better.
Joe |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Lobster on Nov 28th, 2011 at 2:43pm
The problem with 'salts' is that you never know what chemicals you are gonna get. If you have a batch that is working for you I would suggest trying to figure out which ingredient is doing the trick for your CH.
You can have it tested here. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() From there you will have a better idea what chemical you are dealing with, along with the pro's and con's of using it. |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by wgardens on Nov 28th, 2011 at 4:58pm
A day or two ago I posted here about something which had worked to stop my cluster pain within seconds - I was so elated at my 'miracle' that I came here to say 'hey! look what this does!' In hindsight, I should have worded the post much differently, as I know some people took great offense at what I had tried, and didn't want others doing it. I want to point out that I do not in anyway advocate the recreation use of any drug to any person. I believe they destroy lives. So I have edited this to remove the post in question, and thank the ones who (whether in a nice or not-so-nice way) pointed out that I should not be posting my experiences.
So now on to the DEA to find a way for them to allow some cluster-related studies! |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by LasVegas on Nov 28th, 2011 at 5:36pm "So now on to the DEA to find a way for them to allow some cluster-related studies!" It is extremely time consuming with lots of red tape just to get o2 studies approved to the medical community, which still has no current approval of high flow rates, so I highly doubt you will be supported with this "treatment", but good luck! |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 28th, 2011 at 6:27pm
No one said you couldn't post your experiences, but you shouldn't be surprised that many here were not receptive and tried to warn you of the dangers of your approach. That is what this site is for. Exchange of ideas, support for those suffering, and much information. I don't know what smoking pot has to do with anything, but if you read some of the posts from newbies, you will definetly see that no one reccomends it and in fact discourages it every single time.
DJ simply doesn't want the nastiness & name calling which he deleted. That is all. E-tanks of 02 cost me 10.00 per tank. My welders tanks which are MUCH bigger cost me 26.00. Most here will tell you the same. Not expensive in my book and oh....does it work!!!!!!!!!! :) |
Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by wgardens on Nov 28th, 2011 at 6:51pm
$10? can I ask where?
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 29th, 2011 at 11:07am
The 10.00 are for the refills. Non-rebreather masks and aregulator are extra, but those too, are inexpensive. Lincare and Apria are 2 of the biggest suppliers in the nation and are everywhere.
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Title: Re: Something NEW that is working for me Post by Imitrex4Breakfast on Dec 6th, 2011 at 5:20pm
Jujst wanted to add this:
After reading all that, I'm suprised that nobody mentioned that Harvard McLean Hospital studied the use of shrooms and LSD for Cluster headaches. They are NOT allowed to study marijuana for any medical purpose (yet). See "MAPS" --> START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() No "Bath Salts" like mentioned in this thread are allowed to be sold around here. The store will get 1 warning before getting raided, shut down, and fined over it (while on TV). |
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