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Message started by mhurst on Jul 25th, 2012 at 8:53pm

Title: Just diagnosed
Post by mhurst on Jul 25th, 2012 at 8:53pm
Hi, I'm really new to this, having had my first headache on Sunday. I thought it was just a migraine. It went away using IBU. Then the next day another hit starting at the base of my neck and wrapping over the top of my head into my sinuses. It was debilitating, throbbing pain and that wouldn't let up, so my wife took me to an after hours clinic. I had a couple shots and it went away for the most part with shadows remaining. I had a CT scan that came back negative and the doctor I saw believes it is CH. In the past 2 days I have had 5 more eposides, including 3 in the middle of the night on Tuesday 2am, 5am and 9 am. I was set up with oxygen today and I'll try it the next time I get one. I had an episode at work today and had to be driven home. It lasted 3 hours, the longest yet. Mine aren't at the same times each day, just random.

I'm trying to figure out if there are any triggers for mine and have found that since Monday any activity from going to the bathroom to walking down my stairs can get my head to start pounding. I haven't read anywhere that this is a symptom. Is this normal? Has anyone experienced this?

Any help is greatly appreciated. I need to try and figure out my situation. 

Thanks,
Mike
mikeandfiona@comcast.net

Title: Re: Just diagnosed
Post by Bob Johnson on Jul 26th, 2012 at 5:11am
Good that you are being active in learning how to care for ourself. But the first step is to get a solid diagnosis. You say the doc in the ER clinic "guesses" you hae Cluster but this is not a simple diagnosis. There are a number of conditions which appear to be headache but which mimic cluster.

The problem so many face is not having access to a doc with training & experience in this complex area of medicine. Encourage you to explore locating a headache specialist to get a clear, firm Dx. (This is NOT any general neurologist--most of them have discouraging little education in headache disorders.) Regardless of who you see, directly ask about his experience with Cluster--don't assume!
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LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.


2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE On-line screen to find a physician.

5. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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A related issue: when Cluster first shows itself, the symptoms are often unclear, changing in intensity, location. This means it's a diagnosis which cannot be firmly made for, perhaps some weeks or months. Requires working with a good doc, being patient as you both watch for any evolution of the symptom picture.

These cautions don't mean you can't start learning even as you wait for a final Dx. Read here, explore buttons, left. Look at:


A couple of sites which are worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE Search under "cluster headache"
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Cluster headache.
From: START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or RegisterEND PRINTPAGE (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Title: Re: Just diagnosed
Post by wimsey1 on Jul 26th, 2012 at 8:33am
Bob's right, get a really good headache specialist in your corner ASAP. In the meantime, take the Cluster Quiz on the left menu. While there is great variation in clusters from one sufferer to the next, there are some things in general we share. It doesn't sound to me like you are having "typical" cluster symptoms, but then again "typical" is a tough word to apply to these things. Curious about your O2 setup. What kind of mask? How high will the regulator go? Keep in touch as you move through this phase of your life. blessings. lance

Title: Re: Just diagnosed
Post by Melissa on Aug 9th, 2012 at 10:39pm
Hello Mike, how are you doing?  I hope you have oxygen by now and are aborting attacks.  Or they have hopefully gone on their way!

To answer your question about activity, yes, there are some of us who have those pressure issues caused by certain activities and I think it might be due to the sinuses?   I'm no doctor though so don't quote me on that one!  lol

Please check in when you can.

:) Mel

Title: Re: Just diagnosed
Post by Clusterman59 on Sep 11th, 2012 at 5:47pm
Yes Bob is right!! I think you need to get a serious specialist because Clusters don't usually last 3 hours but have been known to last up to that long but very rare. Your symptoms seem suspicious.  I pray you don't have Cluster. So good luck....God bless....Johnny :)

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