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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1371761160 Message started by CHMatt on Jun 20th, 2013 at 4:46pm |
Title: Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted Post by CHMatt on Jun 20th, 2013 at 4:46pm
Hi. I've had CCH for 20+ years now. For the past 5 or so I've used high flow oxygen through a demand valve to great success. Unfortunately when I replaced my mask the old one with a small orange colored firm-rubber "gasket"/mouthpiece that I put to my face is no longer available. Only ones with slightly inflated / "puffy" mouthpieces are provided these days, and they make me claustrophobic. Does anyone know how/where to get the old-style masks? I've looked all over. Thanks.
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Title: Re: Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted Post by cluster on Jun 21st, 2013 at 3:16pm |
Title: Re: Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted Post by Marc on Jun 21st, 2013 at 6:12pm
Mouthpiece in lieu of mask. Same quantity and quality of O2 delivery. Your call.
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Title: Re: Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted Post by CHMatt on Dec 20th, 2013 at 9:43pm
Going through 3-4 full attacks a day right now, so bear with me - a rant is coming:
Ok, thank you for finding the mask that I like (the orange one) but it is only available in the UK. I tried getting it here in the US and the local distributor doesn't carry it any more and can't order it. I got a version of what the US distributor does carry (what's currently supplied with the Optimask - the Quadralite) and its not to my liking. It will suffice, but not ideal. (For the record, Intersurgical has been very good to deal with, they just can't supply directly to consumers). I'd like to order more of the Ambu-masks that Lifegas used to supply and they don't seem to carry it (plus they are impossible to get in contact with). Then I tried going to the healthcare supplier the manufacturer suggested (Apria) and they won't supply me because I don't have the right insurance. I told them I don't care about insurance I'll pay cash and the still won't work with me. The local health company I get my oxygen tanks from won't order the "anesthetic" masks because my neurologist's script is for a non-rebreather mask and the dr. won't budge. At this point I'm pretty sure it'd be easier to score heroin to treat the headaches than a damn quality oxygen mask!!! (fear not - not going there) Sooooo, does anyone have any idea how I can get my hands on either: 1) Ideally the orange Intersurgical mask (Size 6 Ecomask) that used to come with the Optimask kits (in the US - and I'd pay to ship them here - I'll even buy a worthwhile quantity - 10 or whatever to make it worth while) 2) The Size 5 Ambumask - again, I'd like 2 or 3 of those since this has proved so difficult. 3) The Quadralite Size 4, as a last choice. Again - due to the difficulty I'd be happy buying 10 or something. In all cases I do not need the whole Optimask kit - I have a demand valve I use plus I already have 2 Optimask kits minus the masks I want. I do NOT like the newer mask with the innertube type fitting - they make me claustrophobic. GRRRRRRRRRR. Sorry for the rant - very frustrated! Any help would be greatly appreciated. :-) |
Title: Re: Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted Post by Batch on Dec 22nd, 2013 at 1:47am
Hey CHMatt,
I know the frustration... In 2006 when the Clustermasx, (packaged and sold from the UK by a CH'er), ceased to be available, a few of us worked on Linde and Linde/LifeGas to offer the O2PTIMASK™ that DJ carried before the ClusterO2 kit he now offers. Now here's the straight scoop... You don't really need the facemask. You can abort your headaches faster breathing straight from the green "T" manifold. The real reason is doing this traps less exhaled breath, highest in CO2, between the mouthpiece and exhaust port in the green "T" manifold. The breathing technique used during oxygen inhalation therapy as an abortive for cluster headache is also very important. This technique is called breathing at forced tidal volume capacity. It starts by exhaling forcibly and rapidly. When it feels like there's nothing left to exhale and your lungs are empty... they're not... Do an abdominal crunch like doing situps until your exhaled breath makes a wheezing sound for a few seconds, then inhale room air rapidly and fully. This breathing technique will squeeze out another half to a liter of exhaled breath highest in CO2 concentration. Do this standing and breath from the diaphragm. This ventilates the lungs more completely. Repeat this sequence two more times with room air then at the end of the third forced exhale cycle, inhale a lungful of 100% oxygen and hold it for a few seconds. Now repeat the entire cycle, three breaths of room air and one of 100% oxygen. If you're doing this properly, you'll start feeling the symptoms of paresthesia, a very slight tingling or prickling of the fingertips, lips, and back of the neck. You may also experience a slight dizziness. These symptoms indicate you've pushed your respiratory and circulatory systems into respiratory alkalosis (made it more alkaline) by casting off CO2 faster than your body generates it through normal metabolism... All this triggers a very rapid cerebral vasoconstriction and super oxygenates the blood flow to the brain. This in turn helps abort your cluster headache much faster than breathing oxygen at a flow rate of 15 liters/minute... This is a very safe breathing technique. I've used it since early 2005 and have yet to pass out during a cluster headache... even when I wished that would happen. The symptoms of paresthesia clear in a matter of seconds once you start breathing normally. Practice on room air until you feel the symptoms of paresthesisa... If you get too dizzy, lean against a wall or sit erect in a chair. Avoid hunching over your knees as this restricts lung ventilation and that slows the abort process. Take care and please keep us posted. V/R, Batch |
Title: Re: Oxygen Masks - old-style orange rimmed ones wanted Post by CHMatt on Dec 28th, 2013 at 5:51pm
Batch,
Thanks for that very informative reply! I've been using O2 with a demand valve and have been using the hyperventilating method for years with great success. Although highly skeptical of your approach using 3 breaths of fresh air to every hit of O2, I gave it a try and, to my surprise, it worked! I'm not sure if it aborted the headache any faster or not, but I'd say it was equally fast, and since it results in 1/4 the O2 usage I'm all for it (especially when away from home with the E tanks!). Plus, when alternating between regular air and O2 the mouthpiece does indeed work better than any mask would. Now I must ask - why alternate fresh air and O2? Why not just use regular air if my end-goal is to drive my CO2 levels lower? What is this every 4th breath of O2 buying me that wouldn't be accomplished hyperventilating and using regular air? (I'm an engineer, so I'm not going to rest until I understand this :) .) Thanks. |
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