I don't want anyone to think I'm facetious about suggesting the life of a monk may indeed cure cluster headaches.  So let me clarify.  I have been girl crazy since I was a young boy.  In relationships, I yielded entirely unto their demands and took upon the hero's responsibility to gratify them.  When they start in with the nagging -- and they always do -- it hurt me more than emotionally.  It hurt me spiritually.  I would suffer greatly because I was not satisfying them enough whether financially or whatever they had cooked up to manipulate my emotions.  And I suffered clusters because of it.  No longer.  I am a free man.  I have not been with a woman for five years, and I have not suffered a cluster headache all these many years. 

Hi John,
Got my doubts they were clusters in the first place. [smiley=bloos.gif]. But i wouldn't be counting my
chickens just yet, as the  [smiley=evil.gif] is known to
go into remission for years, and then out of no
where rears his ugly head.

Hoppy.

You have clusters because your girlfriend nags ? You clearly know little about the condition, and to be honest I feel your post is offensive to women.

I suffered far worse than nagging with a previous husband and never had clusters. My CH started long after I became happy and contented with the lovely man I have now. I wouldn't be without him. Most sufferers, of either gender, would be completely lost without their supporter - usually the spouse.

Perhaps you should look for a different diagnosis as I doubt very much you have cluster headaches.

As an aside, If they ALL nag, have you asked yourself why. But I agree you should probably stay away from women, though not for the reason you state.
Maz.

Nagging as a trigger?

Fair dinkum, I'll get some mileage out of this one!

Wow, folks doubt my cluster as legit as a way to say they're more cluster than me.  What fucking egotistical retards people are.  I am not trying to degrade women, I am trying to suggest there is an emotional component to clusters.  It is not women's fault they are who they are, it is my fault for reacting to them the way I do.  I am pointing out there is an emotional component to clusters, and that if you do not look at stress in your life as an aggravating factor, then you deserve the shit you are in.  And to the stoopid bitch that suggested I don't really suffer clusters, who in the hell would come to a cluster board who doesn't suffer them?  USE YOUR BRAIN.  Nagging doesn't trigger them, don't be stupid.  It is the emotional state of being beholden to someone.

John Freedom wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

Wow, folks doubt my cluster as legit as a way to say they're more cluster than me.  What fucking egotistical retards people are.  I am not trying to degrade women, I am trying to suggest there is an emotional component to clusters.  It is not women's fault they are who they are, it is my fault for reacting to them the way I do.  I am pointing out there is an emotional component to clusters, and that if you do not look at stress in your life as an aggravating factor, then you deserve the shit you are in.  And to the stoopid bitch that suggested I don't really suffer clusters, who in the hell would come to a cluster board who doesn't suffer them?  USE YOUR BRAIN.  Nagging doesn't trigger them, don't be stupid.  It is the emotional state of being beholden to someone.

It's yer hypothalamus not yer hippopotamus.

               Potter

John,

You are new here...less than 10 posts.

There are rules of conduct for being a member of this site and for posting on this board.

Personal attacks and name calling is not allowed.

Thank you.....

Fair enough, Jackie.  I tend not to be of that nature, and only react when others start in on me.  I really find it offensive when people suggest I don't suffer clusters as a way of silencing me.  All I am trying to suggest is there is an emotional component to clusters.  For SOME people.

This has all got to be some kind of lame joke right?  LMAO   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

As a female with cluster headaches, when I am in the THROWS of PAIN during an attack as much as I'd like to at times I can't really get rid of myself.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

Potter wrote,
It's yer hypothalamus not yer hippopotamus.

I agree. Emotion and stress play no part in my CH's.

Hoppy.

Hoppy wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

Emotion and stress play no part in CH's.

I wish it was that simple, however over the years many people have commented here as to a pattern in their CH linked to stress. For some it seems that stress increasing is a trigger and for others the opposite.

I for one have a very clear pattern to my CHs with significantly more CHs at the start of the weekend (when the stress should be reducing) and I've found that stress seems to be associated with fewer CHs (and migraines) for me.

The brain is highly complex and working out the myriad of interactions that take place on a biochemical basis is non-trivial.

Mike wrote,

I for one have a very clear pattern to my CHs with significantly more CHs at the start of the weekend.

Maybe to many Friday after work Beer's. Just joking. ;D

Hoppy wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 11:49pm:

Mike wrote, I for one have a very clear pattern to my CHs with significantly more CHs at the start of the weekend. Maybe to many Friday after work Beer's. Just joking. ;D

Actually I wish it was that simple, but I'm one of the few who isn't triggered by alcohol.

wow,   
         I recon its got nothing to do with the so called "nagging"  of your previous partners and maybe something to do with anger issues !!!!
  your post did come across as maz said as totally sexist. !!! and maybe the think before we write button is in order.
  stress for me can bring on cluster symptoms, as can the heat, achohol etc, from what I read there's so many different triggers that effect people differently.
wish it was all the same for everybody, it might be easier to manage for everyone then !  but alas !
   

This post is one (if not the most) ridicules post I have ever seen
over the years on CH. Com

Posts like this distant researchers and doctors from the boards.
Good ideas, and important information that researchers and doctors
Look for on support groups boards get lost in this type of clutter.

Most important
Marta (my wife) - [disrespectfuly - women, in your words] is the sturdy pillar that helped
And helps, supports, and motivates me go through bad times
And enjoy together the good times!
I do not know where would I be, without the love, help, understanding
And support over the years.

I love my supporters, I am grateful for them!
For being on my side!


Michael

I agree.my wife is the one who first suggested CH.when I switched to my new pcp she brought a stack of papers she printed off for him to look at.he totally agreed,and began treating me for it.my wife sat up countless nights researching while I locked myself in the bathroom and attempted to bash my head in.my wife is fantastic !

My last cycle was Spring 2012 and i was having a real
battle with the [smiley=evil.gif]. My wife searched the
web and found ice can help in CH's, so she wrapped
some in a handkerchief an applied it to my head and
the back of my neck, CH was gone in 15min. Iv'e since
been on the vitamin D3 Regime and no CH's. I often wonder
what i would do without her by my side.

Hoppy.

Seems someone has mommy issues.

Given a choice between keeping my wonderful supporter and having CH or losing both, I'd keep both, although mid-CH I wouldn't be human to wonder what if (just as other thoughts go through our heads in the middle of the torture that is inflicted on us).

If I were to have divorced my wife because of CH years ago I would have been dead years ago.  She is the basic thing that has kept me alive. 

With all respect, John, I suggest you look at yourself and grow a spine.  If you have this issue with women it is because of one of two things.  Either you are a doormat or you pick the wrong kind of women.  Personally, from what little I've read of you, I think it is probably both. 

I do know an apology is definitely in order to some very wonderful women on this board, women who have stood by their men, who have spent inordinate hours searching for answers, who have wept gallons of tears over their suffering, who have gone without necessities because they would rather put the money into something to help their husband, and I could go on and on about what they do for us.  That does not even touch the lovely ladies I know who suffer CH themselves.  Nor does it address the wonderful women sufferers I know who have also married other sufferers and support them.

Until such apology comes I'm afraid I have no use for your posts, and they will be ignored.  You have nothing to offer.

Jerry

Callico wrote on Oct 7^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

If I were to have divorced my wife because of CH years ago I would have been dead years ago.  She is the basic thing that has kept me alive.  With all respect, John, I suggest you look at yourself and grow a spine.  If you have this issue with women it is because of one of two things.  Either you are a doormat or you pick the wrong kind of women.  Personally, from what little I've read of you, I think it is probably both.  I do know an apology is definitely in order to some very wonderful women on this board, women who have stood by their men, who have spent inordinate hours searching for answers, who have wept gallons of tears over their suffering, who have gone without necessities because they would rather put the money into something to help their husband, and I could go on and on about what they do for us.  That does not even touch the lovely ladies I know who suffer CH themselves.  Nor does it address the wonderful women sufferers I know who have also married other sufferers and support them. Until such apology comes I'm afraid I have no use for your posts, and they will be ignored.  You have nothing to offer. Jerry

   I still maintain it's his hypothalamus and not his hippopotamus.

            Potter

            

John, your reply #7: A little "experiment" I used to use when I was a therapist and teacher. I'd ask,

"Think of one very special object in you home, something which importance/meaning for you. Tell me, how does IT (the object) MAKE you like it?"

It's amazing how many folks would freeze up, unable to  understand the question.

The answer is, of course: the object doesn't give you feelings/emotions. Emotions come from WITHIN us, we create them, they are OUR reaction to whatever it is we value in the object.

Our EMOTIONS are OUR reaction to the person/situation--neither people nor things can GIVE/IMPOSE feelings upon us.

Please: reflect on this idea for a time before you react or reply.

Brew wrote on Oct 6^th, 2013 at 11:56pm:

Seems someone has mommy issues.

All I gotta say is LOL Brew!!!  ;D

JustNotRight wrote on Oct 7^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

Brew wrote on Oct 6th, 2013 at 11:56pm: Seems someone has mommy issues. All I gotta say is LOL Brew!!!  ;D

Yeah, and Potter's was pretty funny, too! blessings. lance

While recognizing Breast Cancer awareness Month, I must say this guy is MY Hero...    Didn't read the rest of posts, did anyone not bash him ??  Lemme guess.....  he got accused of not having cluster headaches too ????    8-)

I do find your message degrading to women, and honestly, I do not think you have CH, in my case, emotions and stress are not a trigger at ALL.  There have been times where I have been stressed and emotionally wrecked but CH free, and times of pure bliss and floating through life,and the beast comes. Emotion, is not a trigger.

Maybe you do have some issues with Women and ummmmm...you should look in to that,

(sorry if my english is bad at times, not my first language)

Bless

JHK07 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

While recognizing Breast Cancer awareness Month, I must say this guy is MY Hero...    Didn't read the rest of posts, did anyone not bash him ??  Lemme guess.....  he got accused of not having cluster headaches too ????    8-)

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JHK07 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

While recognizing Breast Cancer awareness Month, I must say this guy is MY Hero...    Didn't read the rest of posts, did anyone not bash him ??  Lemme guess.....  he got accused of not having cluster headaches too ????    8-)

  He wasn't pushin headstands just celibacy.  No pissin match here,  nope.

          Potter

While recognizing Breast Cancer awareness Month, I must say this guy is MY Hero.
[smiley=confused.gif] I don't comprehend.

Hoppy.

John Freedom wrote on Oct 5^th, 2013 at 2:50am:

..................................  In relationships, I yielded entirely unto their demands and took upon the hero's responsibility to gratify them.  When they start in with the nagging -- and they always do -- it hurt me more than emotionally.  ..............

Wow......... I feel bad that you have this kind of a view about life.

1) Man up. "Yielding" isn't relationship building - it's slavery.
2) No, women don't always resort to nagging. You simply have to earn some respect. And that road goes two ways......!
3) See number 1 above.

You got very negative reactions because of your spiteful language - not because of your headaches. Leave out the attacks and discuss emotional responses to CH's and you will get meaningful dialog in return.

Plus you won't have me lecturing you about life, because I wouldn't open that door unless it was kicked in where I was standing  ;)

Best of luck to you,
Marc

JHK07 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

While recognizing Breast Cancer awareness Month, I must say this guy is MY Hero...    Didn't read the rest of posts, did anyone not bash him ??  Lemme guess.....  he got accused of not having cluster headaches too ????    8-)

Wow. Are you on some sort of campaign or mission? Are you here to help Cluster Headache sufferers - or just to drop sarcastic comments on other folks posts?

I'm trying to figure out how you helped the OP. Maybe I missed it.