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Message started by deep on Oct 20th, 2013 at 6:49pm

Title: neural therapy
Post by deep on Oct 20th, 2013 at 6:49pm
Hi is anyone try neural therapy before i just finished my therapy i feel perfect like 5 months but i didn't have a chance to take an opinion from other patients about how they are feeling after the therapy.  If anyone can tell me something about it i will be very happy. :)

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Potter on Oct 20th, 2013 at 7:41pm
Seems to be on the quacks like a duck list.

               Potter

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Brew on Oct 20th, 2013 at 8:08pm
"neural therapy."

Hmmm. Wish I knew what that was.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Guiseppi on Oct 20th, 2013 at 10:01pm
Howdy Deep, welcome to the board. When you get a chance, please expound on the "neural" therapy. Are you asking about the implanted stimulators? The nerve blocks with DHE? Give us a better idea of which one you're considering and maybe we can give you some effective feedback.

joe

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Hoppy on Oct 20th, 2013 at 11:32pm
Hi Deep,
Can i get neural therapy in Bali? I'm going there next week. 
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Hoppy.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by deep on Oct 21st, 2013 at 8:18am
Sorry my English isn't well enough to describe the treatment so what wikipedia says: Neural Therapy is a system to diagnose and treat medical problems of patients which are otherwise difficult to treat or resistant to treatment.

My doctor aapplied injections(procaine injections which is used for local anesthesia) to all my head, back,neck and throat. Also she wanted me to have my wisdom teeth, that was in my pain area, out. Then we had 10 sessions and i am pain free for 5 months. I don't know any kind of treatments like this but it worked on me very well. I hope ı described well. You can look from wikipedia if you like Other websites describe better than me:)

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Potter on Oct 21st, 2013 at 9:27am
Neural therapy is based on the belief that energy flows freely through the body of a healthy person. Proponents claim that injury, disease, malnutrition, stress and even scar tissue disrupt this flow creating energy imbalances called interference fields. Neural therapy purports to manage chronic disease and disorders by considering four components: the structural component, the electro-magnetic component, the biochemical component and the psychological component. Treatments include anesthetic injections, including those to areas distant from the site of the pain, medication and nutritional support, electromagnetic stimulation and psychological intervention.

Neural therapy is based on electrical disturbance and restricted lymph system theories. It is believed that a distortion in the connective tissue of the body, interference in structure, lymph flow or electrical conduction can cause illness. The goal of neural therapy is to correct the interference and heal the illness or symptoms. However, even those who practice neural therapy acknowledge that the process is not well understood. There is insufficient published literature that demonstrates the clinical utility and safety of this treatment modality (Hui, 2012; Lorentzen, 2012).

Neural therapy is promoted mainly to relieve chronic pain. It is also thought to be helpful for individuals with allergies, hay fever, headaches, arthritis, asthma, hormone imbalances, sports or muscle injuries, gallbladder, heart, liver disease, dizziness, depression, menstrual cramps, skin and circulation problems. Neural therapy originated in Germany in the late 1800s, with the idea that the nervous system influences all bodily functions. Later, in the 1940s, practioners believed that injecting local anesthetics could affect distant, unrelated parts of the body. This theory was based on a clinical anecdote describing the relief of shoulder pain in an individual following the injection of an anesthetic drug into an existing scar on the leg. From this experience arose the notion of interference fields and the development of neural therapy.

Neural therapy is not to be confused with the nerve blocks, local anesthesia injections or acupuncture. Nerve blocks involve injections of medication to relieve pain caused by stimulation of a peripheral nerve. Local anesthesia is the injection of an anesthetic agent at a local site to relieve localized pain. Acupuncture stimulates certain points on the body associated with energy channels or meridians with the insertion and manipulation of fine needles. Proponents of neural therapy propose that local injections of anesthetic agents into areas of the body, (for example, scars) that are unrelated to the site of pain may interfere with the electrical activity of the nervous system.

               Potter

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Brew on Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:07am
Sounds to me like you need a new doctor.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Hoppy on Oct 21st, 2013 at 6:17pm
Deep wrote,


Sorry my English isn't well enough to describe the treatment.

Where on Planet Earth do you live. :question

Hoppy.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by idorko on Oct 21st, 2013 at 8:11pm
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so it's bullshit.

edit: glad it worked, but it's probably either not cluster or the placebo effect

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by CDog on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 7:24am

Brew wrote on Oct 21st, 2013 at 11:07am:
Sounds to me like you need a new doctor.


If it is working for deep, apparently not...

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Brew on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 7:43am

CDog wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 7:24am:
If it is working for deep, apparently not...

No, apparently not.

I suspect this doctor is taking new patients.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 12:34pm
The only thing I am going to say is this:


Quote:
Also she wanted me to have my wisdom teeth, that was in my pain area, out.


DON'T DO THIS!   Unless there is an infection and they really DO need to come out, that is.  I wish I had a dime for every person I know who has had perfectly healthy teeth pulled because of some quack doctor who didn't know what the hell Cluster headaches were.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by theAnthonyCarter on Oct 25th, 2013 at 9:35am

Quote:
Also she wanted me to have my wisdom teeth, that was in my pain area, out.



Quote:
DON'T DO THIS!   Unless there is an infection and they really DO need to come out, that is.  I wish I had a dime for every person I know who has had perfectly healthy teeth pulled because of some quack doctor who didn't know what the hell Cluster headaches were.


I agree with Linda... I had my wisdom teeth removed for unrelated, legitimate reasons, and it didn't affect my cluster headaches either way. To yank them "just to see if it will" is like yanking parts off of your car to see if it will run better... Except, you can't put your "parts" back in when it turns out you don't run any better without them.

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by idorko on Oct 25th, 2013 at 6:36pm
Having my wisdom teeth taken out didn't do a thing for my cluster or constant shadows (well the vicodin helped the shadows) but I would encourage you to get them out if you are on your parents dental insurance because if they start bothering you later in life and your situation is different you're SOL

Title: Re: neural therapy
Post by Brew on Oct 25th, 2013 at 9:48pm
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