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Title: Headached Diary Post by bree38 on Mar 8th, 2014 at 8:13am
Hello,
Just wondering if anybody has any examples of a headache diary or any tips for making one?. I am a computer nerd so struggling ::). I want to show my Gp just a week of what clusters does to me? They really don't understand, I have two other long term health problems which of course with no sleeping and trashing around at night make me feel like death. But then I think with clusters alone you can feel like that anyway. Any tips or advice really appreciated. Hope all having nice and CH free weekend. Thanks Breda |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by maz on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:01am
Hi Breda
Record when you go to sleep and wake up, what time the attacks occur and how long they last, when and if you abort them and with what. Keep a record of the weather and what you eat and drink Make a note also of any coincidences, for example do you get a CH every time you have a hot bath, or watch tv, or go out in the cold or smell a particular scent etc. All this will help to determine if you have some thing that triggers your CH. At least your GP will see that you are not getting any sleep, and that you are being pro active in trying to help yourself. Hope this helps. Maz. |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by bree38 on Mar 8th, 2014 at 11:38am
Hi Maz,
Thank you. I didn't think of keeping record of last thing I ate. Definitely noticed too hot a bedroom is a trigger for a really bad one if I am in a bout. Have started turning radiator down in my room. Thanks for your help much appreciated :) |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by Mike NZ on Mar 8th, 2014 at 3:36pm
My headache diary is an Excel spreadsheet with the following columns and example of the type of data:
With the spreadsheet data I've got pivot tables so I can see things like:
The Kip scale is: 0 No pain, life is beautiful 1 Very minor, shadow's come and go. Life is still beautiful 2 More persitent shadow's 3 Shadow's are getting constant but can deal with it 4 Starting to get bad, want to be left alone 5 Still not a "pacer" but need space 6 Wake up grumbling, curse a bit, but can get back to sleep with out "dancing" 7 Wake up, sleep not an option, take the beast for a walk and finally fall into bed exhausted 8 Time to scream, yell, curse, head bang, rock, whatever work's 9 The "Why me?" syndrome starts to set in 10 Major pain, screaming, head banging, ER trip. Depressed. Suicidal. This is a very useful way to describe the pain by its effect and not some arbitary scale |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by Rumeke on Mar 8th, 2014 at 4:31pm
I still use the Headache Diary I got from the UK site... OUCH.com. Can't find it anymore since the site is gone but I have it on PDF. You may be able to find a simple headache diary online under images that you can adapt to clusters. I use mine now to track for myself when my CH peak and to look for patterns when I was starting the D3 regimen.
Judy |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by Hoppy on Mar 8th, 2014 at 6:03pm
Hi Judy,
OUCHUK is back up and running, but they've lost all there old data. Hoppy. |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by Rumeke on Mar 8th, 2014 at 8:46pm
Thanks Hoppy! Glad I kept it on PDF! Hopefully won't need to print any for a LONG time!
Judy |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by jason1212 on Mar 10th, 2014 at 9:23am
If you own a smartphone then there's an app for that. It's what I use and it works great, very easy and my neuro loves it.
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Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by bree38 on Mar 10th, 2014 at 3:54pm
Thanks everyone. I made a start today. Its very depressing doing it. Just done 2 weeks and will see how easy mr Dr finds it to understand. Shame the ouch one is not there anymore.
Breda |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by wimsey1 on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:00am
I just wanted to say you'se guys (or all ya'll) are amazing!
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Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by bree38 on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:54pm
I agree would have been lost without this forum and the kindness of others ;)
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Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by jason1212 on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:20pm wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 3:59am:
I can barely hold a pen and paper when I'm in a attack. I am able to quickly jot down start/end time, and treatment start time, severity is pretty easy to remember. Then I add them to my app later, works very well saves me from having to carry a log book to the neuro. The designer of the app I use suffers from clusters, I think he understands what we go through. :D Works smashingly! |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by CH Brain on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:22am
No worries Jason,
Whatever works for you. I note that the good old pen and paper still feature in the process of collecting data. An app is good for later collating of data and showing trends, if it has those features. The original poster asked for headache diaries, OUCH had none left, I provided links. For some of us, the trusty ol' pen and paper still works best. Here's yet another take on the paper diary: START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() Interesting, I went to Headache Australia, because they had a good app, now it redirects to the apple store...no more app. oh well. The "whump" sound, I've found, of a ream of headache diaries hitting a specialists desk seems to have the desired impact...of course you can always hit your specialist over the head with a thick paper diary, if he ain't listening. ::) I find the paper one to be low emissions, recyclable, reliable, battery never goes flat, never rings in the middle of a CH attack etc. Cheers, Ben. |
Title: Re: Headached Diary Post by jason1212 on Mar 14th, 2014 at 12:30am wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:22am:
Never thought of it this way ;D. I've had more than a few neuro's I would've liked to clobber. |
Title: Re: Headache Diary Post by CH Brain on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:38am
Ain't that the truth?
Thanks Jason! Apps or papers, whatever ways we can tune these Doctors in is good for all CHers. (Forgive my lack of app experience here...) Have you got any links there for those who may like to try an app? I know I would have used one for all those attacks I used to suffer when out and about in public. Those attacks usually never made it into my diaries, memory recall of 4-6 a day for 10 months is not good. Back then, long before apps, there was no other way. Still, I say diaries are bloody useless for the diagnosed, long-term, chronic CH veterans, just good for newbies to have their headache type correctly, quickly and differentially diagnosed. After that, well they're just a document of accumulated misery. Best avoided for one's own sanity, as per Bob's pain vs suffering, I think. He's spot on with that separation, which diaries do not help to achieve. The more distance I get from having articulate every attack in exquisite detail, the less I "suffer", for sure. I stopped keeping them years ago, but somewhere I have a stack of 7 years worth I used to support my diagnosis (and club Neuros with), I would hate to stumble across them...ugh... I did keep a diary for the sake of the D3 regimen for a while. I felt Batch should have his work done justice and that I should have been able to provide accurate data to the survey, which I did. Cheers, Ben. |
Title: Re: Headache Diary Post by jason1212 on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:57pm wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:38am:
This pretty much sums up my feeling about keeping logs too. I fought it for a long time because I couldn't focus enough to log an attack during an attack and after I just wanted nothing to do with them at all. I started again recently because I'm going to a new neuro and she's really been pressing me for one and I get to the point sometimes where I say "I have to give these people what they want or else they won't think I'm willing to try anything to help myself". Which means they aren't as willing to help either. However, with this last iteration of my cluster journal, I realized at my neuro that it was able to give me some solace. See I have the misfortune of remembering things at times as being worse than they are. You ask me how many times last month I got a headache, I tell you everyday and I honestley believe it. As I was looking through my journal though I noticed I wasn't getting them everyday and the neuro was even able to point out some patterns as they may have related to new courses of medications. So there can be some hope in those damned journals. Anyway if anyone is intersted, this is the app I use START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to ![]() ![]() |
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