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Message started by Pistol Pete on Sep 1st, 2014 at 9:56am

Title: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by Pistol Pete on Sep 1st, 2014 at 9:56am
My doc prescribed Benedryl and Oxygen for my clusters.

The O2 did squat. But the Benedryl, if taken at the maximum recommended dose, seems to have solved the headache problem.

the downside is, I always need a nap.

Pete

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by Bob Johnson on Sep 1st, 2014 at 11:23am
The first question you're like to get here is: what was the flow rate of the O2 and what kind of mask were you using.

The Ben. hasn't been reported as having any benefit.

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Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by Pistol Pete on Sep 1st, 2014 at 2:03pm
I am certain I suffer from cluster headaches, the opinion of my doctors means little or nothing to me.  Most docs try to treat clusters the same as migraines, and the results are predictable.

Many years ago, my neurologist gave me Stadol.  This didn't do anything for my headache, but I was so stoned, I did not care.

As for the O2 therapy, 12lpm, delivered via the standard nose tubes.  If my nose gets too plugged up, I put the tubes in my mouth.

The O2 does help, but it takes too long, and the headache is gone in 45  minutes anyway.

The Benedryl, taken every 8 hours, seems to keep the headaches away.


Pete

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by Bob Johnson on Sep 1st, 2014 at 3:09pm
Look at the buttons, left, for O2 information.

Treating Cluster as if Migraine is a sign of a doc who doesn't know OR who has made the wrong Dx.

Print the PDF file, below. These are the most commonly used Cluster meds aldong with evaluations of effedtiveness. It's a good document to use as a discssion tool with any doc you see.
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=THERAPIES-_Headache_2011.pdf (96 KB | 16 )

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by BarbaraD on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 6:50am
What Bob said about the O2 info.. The nose thingy doesn't work.. You need a non-rebreather mask. And most of us use 15-25 liters per minute as a standard dose of O2.

If done right it should alievate the CH in 5 minutes or so..

The D3 regimen is working for about 80% of us that have stuck to it. Check it out - and it don't make you groggy. Just a mixture of vitamins. But for some reason it works. For more info PM Batch.

Check out the link Bob gave you.. He knows his stuff and has done research for years.

Keep us up on how you're doing.  :-*

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by feisty on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 4:50pm
What BarbaraD said!  [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by didgens on Sep 16th, 2014 at 5:26pm
my son is out of cluster phase "what ever that means cuz they could come any old time of year" but his sneezing is something to behold ,, he has awful allergies,, and is now taking benedryl as Claritin doesn't seem to help him at all .. also he keeps a bottle of Mylanta cuz with the headaches/sneezing etc he gets bad acid reflux .. so we will see if this combo helps him at all.

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by BobG on Sep 16th, 2014 at 9:50pm
Some folks have said they take Benadryl before bedtime to keep from entering REM sleep mode.
Some folks use Melatonin for the same reason.

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by ameliacmw on Sep 24th, 2014 at 11:34am
That's what they prescribed my dad for his cluster headaches in the 70s and 80s-- Benadryl. I find it works for me sometimes too, but never quick enough so sometimes there's no point because it makes me really sleepy. There's another kind of Rx anti-histamine that has been prescribed too, but I can't remember the name of it. I always take a Benadryl at onset, just for good measure.

Title: Re: Has anyone else tried Benedryl for clusters?
Post by didgens on Sep 25th, 2014 at 2:49pm
Im going to add another bit here ... since the medication that is in benedryl (not the antihistamine but the other bit) is the same medication that is used in sleep aids I wonder if you don't get a double whammy here.  Your relieveing histamine reaction but also getting a "melatonin" like sleep aid that helps the CH on 2 fronts ... thoughts ?  my son hasn't had a CH for a while .. I havnt asked him if hes still taking the Mylanta plus the benedryl.. I will check with him later today

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