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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Cluster Headache Specific >> A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1533429312 Message started by Mike NZ on Aug 4th, 2018 at 8:35pm |
Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by Peter510 on Aug 5th, 2018 at 5:32pm
Mike,
A very interesting study. The results tie in with my personal experience, having grown up in a house full of smokers and being an ex-smoker myself. It might also go some way to explaining why no two Cluster Heads experience exactly the same range of symptoms, severities, patterns or, as you say, respond to preventatives in the same way. Thanks for drawing our attention to it. Peter. |
Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by Batch on Aug 6th, 2018 at 8:18am
I worked with Dr. Rozen on this survey and developed most of the questions regarding oxygen therapy. I also did some of the initial analysis of the survey results.
Dr. Rozen may have a new angle on the difference in CH pathogenesis between CHers who smoke and those that do not smoke. This will be hard to prove for many reasons, but it does give headache researchers another avenue to explore. I do think a point needs to be made regarding the table entry for suicide. Yes many of us have entertained the thought of suicide at one point of another. What caused these thoughts is the area of interest. There's been a lot of research on the side effects of psychotropic pharmaceuticals too many of which are prescribed for CH. In my case, I had just come off depakote and was a week into Neurontin (gabapentin). Nearly all of these drugs fall into the following classes (types) of psychotropic medications: Stimulants Antidepressants Antipsychotics Mood stabilizers Antianxiety agents Nearly all of them have side effects that include social withdrawal anxiety depression psychotic or manic symptoms Suicide has been directly attributed to a few of them. |
Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by Traveller on Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:36am
Or perhaps it could simply be that some people find it too difficult to face the prospect of a life ahead with endless and intolerable pain. For all the tremendous good you do Batch, it might be worth considering laying aside your obvious bias against the pharmaceutical industry and stick to helping people without the implied attacks on medicines that have helped millions of people.
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Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by Graemel on Oct 31st, 2018 at 11:04pm
Tobacco use is a political animal, specially in NZ, and as such any information pertaining should be treated with utmost caution. It is the old story of not letting the facts get in the way of a good story. Now booze is another story!
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Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by dtruett on Nov 5th, 2018 at 4:49pm Traveller wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:36am:
As someone who has had CHs since 1985 and has been suicidal, I couldn't agree more. |
Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by John2 on Nov 8th, 2018 at 11:03pm
An interesting read. Thanks Mike.
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Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by AussieBrian on Nov 8th, 2018 at 11:33pm
I spent 30 years as a smoker, a ClusterHead and a pacer. On quitting the cigarettes 10 years ago I remained a ClusterHead but immediately became a rocker and groaner instead.
No. I have no idea, either. |
Title: Re: A New Look at Tobacco Use and Headaches Post by cryptonomad on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:31pm AussieBrian wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 11:33pm:
I'm a smoker...menthol...i chain smoke during hits as much as i can. i also suck on halls menthol cough drops on the same hit side. it helps me to try to remain calm during hits. My spot is in the garage sitting on a folding chair in the dark. it keeps me focused on willing the pain away...lol. if i don't chain smoke or have the halls at the same time, i can't sit still, pace, slap head, moan groan, and breath deep and fast. my experience is anything sensory doesn't impact the headache intensity at all, but does agitate my overall state....making the hit last longer. the only environmental trigger i have is perfume/cologne....guaranteed KP10. interestingly as well, i don't really drink, but when i do its bourbon, and i have never had a hit during drink though the next morning hang-over. only tested that about 4 times over the last 3 years though. really i felt better hung over than i usually do....go figure. |
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