ok .. ive read some topics here about some great results with excerise and blood flow to the extremities.. has anyone xperienced positve results after a good shag like me.. I have wondered if it is the physical activity or the stress relief.. or if there is a chemical release ,, eg the " feel good " that  fixes it ... appreciate all feedback

If you can play hide the pickle during an episode you just got a headache.

              Potter

oh im sorry... if you cant.,  maybe you should read more comments on those that apreciate mind over matter,,meditation.. breathE conrtol.

EVEN BETTER TRY IT WITH SOMEONE


The Joys in my Life are those that have been hard ,,

WATER IN A DESERT TASTES ALL THE BETTER

Sorry, but a CH hit is about the clearest example of matter over mind that I can think of.  

After a very long time with it, the best I've ever managed in the mind-over-matter department as far as CH is concerned is to learn to relax enough and keep calm enough to keep it from getting worse.

I could no more do the horizontal hula during a hit than I could play baseball whilst someone was setting my feet on fire.

YMMV, and if so, more power to you.

Best,

George

SORRY GEORGE  but "Matter over mind" is not a philosphy i subscribe to


Light cannot be drowned by darkness for a single candle can be seen by many

Hi, dont know what ya doing with the strange quotes but anyhow..........
During a cycle i have to stay away from the Mrs incase we fancy a shag as that will result in an attack for me which kinda ruins the experience, and i will never have a shag in the bath/shower again gave me one of the worst attacks since i was diagnosed!!!

Shag but not during a cycles BABY!!!!

Ive got the Austin Powers Bug BABY!!!!
I put the GRRRRR IN SWINGER BABY YEH!!!!

PFD TO YOU ALL BABY!!!!!YEH!!!!!!!! :D

demon_tone wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 12:11pm:

Light cannot be drowned by darkness for a single candle can be seen by many

What if your blind??? you will never see the light!!!!

AINT NO FREAKING WAY YOU CAN " SHAG" DURING A HIT!!   maybe if you feel one coming on and use the shag as a pre-emptive strike, but during...... not even for a seasoned perv like me   Tuck

What is a "shag"?  I think that it is the same as, in German, "ficken" but am not sure.
Sandra ;)

> What is a "shag"?  I think that it is the same as, in German, "ficken" but am not sure.

That's what it means.

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I think TUCK  may be right in the "pre-emp strike " comment.. I can see i will need to word things very carefully here as the original post said nothing about "during an attack" and things kinda went astray from there. Furtherst thing from my mind is any form of physical activity "during" an episode but I had noticed that the fitter, healthier and the less stressed i am, that the attacks were not as severe - and a good "Shag" sure does de-stress me.

There are many positive effects of regular sexual activity upon physical and mental wellbeing. Adrenaline and cortisol are produced during sexual activity and Endorphins are released that have an calming and sedating effects.

GEORGEs comment about  relaxing and keeping calm enough to keep it from getting worse may have soemthing to do with it as well.

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 So .. Can Sex help?  Obviously, more extensive and rigourous testing will be required and I will continue my research and experimentation into this theory to my uptmost capabilities.

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Fucking priceless!!!!!.....LMMFAOROTFF!!!  ;D

wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 1:59pm:

What is a "shag"?  I think that it is the same as, in German, "ficken" but am not sure. Sandra ;)

Sandra, in the interest of international cooperation, to say nothing of the spirit of helping that characterizes the wonderful people who visit this message board, I would be happy to explain it in detail to you at a time and place of your choosing.  Or over the phone. Or via email. Or in photos. Or crude drawings. Or using smoke signals. Or in morse code.... would you believe hieroglyphics? How about, er, vague insinuations? Rumors? Banal humor.....? (much like this post, for instance) Er... palindromes?

David aka Balanchine (whom you can probably tell by now doesn't have a girlfriend)

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David aka Balanchine (whom you can probably tell by now doesn't have a girlfriend)

I don't have a boyfriend...so whats that got to do with anything?   ;D ;D

Shagging during a hit?  Only if you care to loose your apendage...

Touch me and all bets are off.

I've been known to find very occasional comfort and a piece of... peace in my wife's loving embrace after aborting a low level hit.  But never immediately prior to or during a hit of any magnitude and certainly never after surviving a large scale assault.

-Dennis-

Potter your killin me. LMOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
and I agree.
thebb

I enjoy a good deal of sending the fox to it's hole as much as the next guy, but when enduring an attack I have other things on my mind.

Also known as vögelen, bumsen, eine nummer schieben/machen, durchnemen, poppen and mausen, Sandra  :D!

So you see, a shag is not a game of chess (Schach spielen).

maalstroom wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 2:37pm:

I enjoy a good deal of sending the fox to it's hole as much as the next guy, but when enduring an attack I have other things on my mind. Also known as vögelen, bumsen, eine nummer schieben/machen, durchnemen, poppen and mausen, Sandra  :D! So you see, a shag is not a game of chess (Schach spielen).

Bumsen is my favorite ;)!  Du Schwein  ;)!

Du Schwein? Hahaha thanx Sandra, I love being called a pig.  ;D

demon_tone wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:40pm:

I think TUCK  may be right in the "pre-emp strike " comment.. I can see i will need to word things very carefully here as the original post said nothing about "during an attack" and things kinda went astray from there. Furtherst thing from my mind is any form of physical activity "during" an episode but I had noticed that the fitter, healthier and the less stressed i am, that the attacks were not as severe - and a good "Shag" sure does de-stress me. There are many positive effects of regular sexual activity upon physical and mental wellbeing. Adrenaline and cortisol are produced during sexual activity and Endorphins are released that have an calming and sedating effects. GEORGEs comment about  relaxing and keeping calm enough to keep it from getting worse may have soemthing to do with it as well. The researchers tested the theory that migraines and sexual desire may both be associated with serotonin. Serotonin receptors also appear to be involved in several aspects of sexual functioning. START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE Studies also indicate that people have abnormal levels of certain hormones, including melatonin and testosterone, during cluster periods.START PRINTPAGEMultimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to or END PRINTPAGE  So .. Can Sex help?  Obviously, more extensive and rigourous testing will be required and I will continue my research and experimentation into this theory to my uptmost capabilities.

Phew! Glad you clarified that!
Stone the crows, you’d have to be as made as a cut snake to attempt to hide the pork sword while getting hit.
Cheers
Barry

maalstroom wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2008 at 4:33pm:

Du Schwein? Hahaha thanx Sandra, I love being called a pig.  ;D

;D

I remember a guy some time back who said that launching some knuckle children at the first sign of an attack would abort it.

Knuckle children? LOL!
Never heard that one, but it's quite obvious, even to a non native English speaker, what it means!
Very nice, have to tell that to my friends and gf! ;D

Bob P wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 8:34am:

I remember a guy some time back who said that launching some knuckle children at the first sign of an attack would abort it.

Sometimes it works.

Bob P wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 8:34am:

I remember a guy some time back who said that launching some knuckle children at the first sign of an attack would abort it.

Is that the same thing as "shaking hands with Abraham Lincoln"?

Shaking hands with good ol' Abe? Whuahaha, priceless!

Balanchine wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 9:25pm:

wrote on Jul 22nd, 2008 at 1:59pm: What is a "shag"?  I think that it is the same as, in German, "ficken" but am not sure. Sandra ;) Sandra, in the interest of international cooperation, to say nothing of the spirit of helping that characterizes the wonderful people who visit this message board, I would be happy to explain it in detail to you at a time and place of your choosing.  Or over the phone. Or via email. Or in photos. Or crude drawings. Or using smoke signals. Or in morse code.... would you believe hieroglyphics? How about, er, vague insinuations? Rumors? Banal humor.....? (much like this post, for instance) Er... palindromes? David aka Balanchine (whom you can probably tell by now doesn't have a girlfriend)

David, du arme kerl (poor boy)-I will be your girlfriend-but only on CH.com! :)  Let's have dinner tomorrow nite in Wuerzburg!

I dunno Sandra.... I mean, it's a nice offer and all and I'm sure you and Wuerzburg are lovely.... but didn't you already do the cyber-bumsen with my good buddy maalstroom? (that lucky dog!)

Each to his own. Personally I find humor helps the pain and thus can be considered therapy. But that's just me. Even if one doesn't agreee, I hardly see where a few consenting adults having a good time with one single thread on a board among many, many others turns the board into "total mockery".

More to the point, if the title "a good shag" offends, one has the option not to click on it, n'est-ce pas?

David

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More to the point, if the title "a good shag" offends, one has the option not to click on it, n'est-ce pas?

Unless of course, your jerkin the gerhkin.
Laughter is good medicine. 8-)
thebb

Hah - good one, bb. You could be whipping your skippy too.

Or what about.... "Scaling the Empire State Building".

Maybe some of the women can offer us some female equivalents.....?

Cyberbumsen haha? Not quite sure if Sonja (my gf) would approve of that, so she's all yours! I'd say, get on that plane and head right to Würzburg while ya still gotta chance, lol!

Michael Wildhaus, I agree upon the fact that this thread is drifting further and further from the original topic, but on the other hand a little bit of fun never heard no one. Sorry you are offended, but that is bound to happen when you throw a bunch of people together. Just try to take it with a grain of salt, it's all harmless.
Wishing you painfree days, Michael!

Michael, I have great respect for you as well as everyone here. We all share the same pain. I also respect your wishes as a father. But asking that a group of adults change their behavior because one child "might" see some words that might offend him, especially given what he could be exposed to in the rest of the hugeness of the internet, is something I'm just not willing to do. I'm sorry if this offends you.

David

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Dr. Spock     Star Trek
Oh the drunken debachery. Sorry Micheal, I have to agree with the above post. That being said, I think before things get too nasty, isnt this what chat is for?

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I have a 10 y.o son that is encouraged to go and visit CH.com,

You may want to reconsider this. Pretty heavy reading for a ten year old.
all the best my CH friend :)

thebb

wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 10:49am:

Let's have dinner tomorrow nite in Wuerzburg!

Wow, that's a long flight from Rochester NY, just to go to dinner!

:o

DJ wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 6:10pm:

wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:49am: Let's have dinner tomorrow nite in Wuerzburg! Wow, that's a long flight from Rochester NY, just to go to dinner! :o

Especially when I live in Los Angeles!

DJ wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 6:10pm:

wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:49am: Let's have dinner tomorrow nite in Wuerzburg! Wow, that's a long flight from Rochester NY, just to go to dinner! :o

Nice.   ;D  That's what I've been thinking too.  

When's John gonna get the bright green letters?   ;D

[smiley=troll.gif]

Best,

George

Light the troll up in green or delete his ass!

WTF?

wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 3:55pm:

Light the troll up in green or delete his ass! WTF?

Whom?

demon_tone wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 8:40pm:

Furtherst thing from my mind is any form of physical activity "during" an episode but I had noticed that the fitter, healthier and the less stressed i am, that the attacks were not as severe - and a good "Shag" sure does de-stress me..

Just speaking for myself, but I am healthy (except that I am an avid smoker), very fit and an overall laidback guy. Life is good, and suddenly I am in the midst of a cycle. If stress was a factor to me, I would've gotten hit in 2007 as that was a strange and hard year on a personal level.

Yeah maalstrom, there certainly doesn't seem to be rhyme nor reason sometimes, does there? I will say that my neurologist thinks that stress does play a large part, but then using you as an example there are clearly many other factors.

I think I've got stress zeroed in as one of the, if not THE, trigger of my most recent cycle. It was the first I'd had in 4 years and coincided with my brother telling me that he needed heart surgery. Now that he's fixed up fine I'm hoping to go another 4 years.... (hah)

David

And yet many around here will say that, more than any other single factor, it is stress that keeps the beast at bay.

wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 10:28pm:

And yet many around here will say that, more than any other single factor, it is stress that keeps the beast at bay.

Which just shows to go you, Brew, what a changeable, damnable beast we battle!

I've long believed this to be a viable alternative and have worked hard to conduct viable field-trials on the theory, but every time I try it on she gets a headache so perhaps I'm contagious after all.

I remember some years ago it was suggested that orgasm was a magic bullet for our many lady sufferers and I immediately put my hand up to volunteer, free for nothing and purely in the interests of science, to assist our ClusterDucks any way I could.

Regrettably it turned out to be hoax but the offer is still there, girls.


(PS Who's John?)

AussieBrian wrote on Jul 28^th, 2008 at 12:41am:

(PS Who's John?)

Check your PM's, Brian.

Suffice it to say that Balanchine's budding flirtation has hit a snag.   ;D

(Sorry--couldn't resist.  Just kidding around, David.)

[smiley=crackup.gif]

Best,

George

Ah, that John. (Thanks, George.) I'll be honest, I worry for him.

Sorry 'bout that, Balanchine, but I'll still talk to you, though it may not be the same.

This whole thread is totally worthless to someone cursed as I am ... An orgasm is a trigger (one of the few I have) for me ... As a matter of fact, my very first cluster hit was at that ... Ummm ... Shall I say "critical moment" while  ... ummm ... errrr ... While "performing my husbandly duties" with my wife ....

BUT, as AussieBrian said, PURELY in the interests of science, I keep testing it to see if it is still a trigger ... YUP, it is!  (Damnit!)

Maybe I will try it again tonight, JUST to make sure, or to see if the beast has morphed again ...

Chuck

Chuck, your unselfish pursuit of science has left me misty eyed....and unable to speak....... :'(.......I'm unworthy....... ;)

Guiseppi

I am with Guiseppi, Chuck.  To put yourself through such pain in the interest of science and helping others is AWESOME! I wll save your recent posts and show them to my children should I ever have any!  Can any of our Norwegian friends tell us how we can nominate Chuck for next year's Nobel Piece prize?

Sandra

George wrote on Jul 28^th, 2008 at 12:53am:

[quote author=744046465C5077475C545B350 link=1216736483/25#44 date=1217220079] Suffice it to say that Balanchine's budding flirtation has hit a snag.   ;D

But.... but... I already bought my plane ticket!

Well David, now you can use your ticket for something real: visit the Netherlands, do some clusterbustin' and have a few pints with us!

maalstroom wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 4:51pm:

wrote on Jul 27th, 2008 at 3:55pm: Light the troll up in green or delete his ass! WTF? Whom?

Check to see who wrote reply #49 on this thread. Does that answer your question?

Sandra, aka John, aka John, aka CHTom, aka numerous others has either deleted himself or been deleted by DJ.

  Can I hear a hell-yeah!

Linda_Howell wrote on Jul 28^th, 2008 at 11:27pm:

Sandra, aka John, aka John, aka CHTom, aka numerous others has either deleted himself or been deleted by DJ.   Can I hear a hell-yeah!

Hell-yeah, and boy howdy.  

Until the next time.   :-/

Best,

George

Linda_Howell wrote on Jul 28^th, 2008 at 11:27pm:

Sandra, aka John, aka John, aka CHTom, aka numerous others has either deleted himself or been deleted by DJ.   Can I hear a hell-yeah!

What!!! But I just landed in Wurzburg!

Sprechen Sie lost.....?

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What!!! But I just landed in Wurzburg! Sprechen Sie lost.....?

Ich versteh', Balanchine.  Sie sind verloren...  Das ist schade.  Aber denken Sie--Sandra war nur einer transexualle Troll, und das Wetter im Wurzburg ist immer schoen.   ;)

Auf wiedersehen, "Sandra"/CHTom/John/Klusterkopf/etc, etc.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Best,

George

Well, George J, your German is much better than hers/his/it's ever were/was. It was rather bad for a university student, but poor old gullible me was thinking maybe she's dyslexic. Thanx again to the people who've pmed me about the troll.

Now, can anybody explain to me what the intentions of such a person are? It is beyond me. Is it cruelty, taking the piss out of people in pain? Is it a peculiar sense of humour I don't get? What is it?


Linda: Hell yeah!

If I could figure out how to make an umlaut on this $#%^&^% keyboard, I wouldn't have had to say "schoen" either.   ;)

John's German has always been lousy--last time he was on here pretending to be a German, every German-speaker in the place was hooting with laughter.

Next time John trolls the place, he might want to pretend to be a Basque.  No one speaks Basque but another Basque.  

Best,

George

George wrote on Jul 29^th, 2008 at 11:19am:

If I could figure out how to make an umlaut on this $#%^&^% keyboard, I wouldn't have had to say "schoen" either.   ;)

Here ya go...

Alt-129 = ü
Alt-132 = ä
Alt-142 =  Ä
Alt-148  = ö
Alt-153 = Ö
Alt-154 = Ü
Alt-225 = ß

You need to use the numbers of the numpad!

Happy German writing  ;)

Oliver

Qu'est-ce que je peux dire? Mon francais est mieux que mon allemagne. But sorry Pascal, I don't know a word of dutch... although I've been to the netherlands several times and it's a lovely country.

Man, this Wurzburg airport is big....!

I have for the last  18 years used a good "shag" as an abortive method.  I always try o2 first and if that fails, usually in the middle of the night, that is my only recourse and to be honest I don't know how I would survive without it.  My poor boyfriend!  Especially on the 5 - 6 headache nights!  I have been apprehensive about bringing this up on a message board like this but if you can, give it a try.  I think it has only failed me once or twice and I have had CH since I was 18 and I am 45 now.  I do not know if it would trigger one as I usually save it for when I have the headaches.  Again, my poor boyfriend!!

We stumbled upon this remedy quite by accident but since then it has been the only way I keep my sanity through these beasts.  It is not fun really, purely medicinal, but I will do whatever it takes to make the pain go away.  

I told my neuro about this and he said it is due to several things, change in blood pressure, release of endorphins, etc.  He also thought that it was much easier for me being female.  I was his only female paient out of 98 patients and he was very intriguied and interested in this abortive method but it is not something I tell everyone about.  Love this site, it has helped me so much through the years. I was elated to see this post!    

G'day Tosha, and would you mind sending a PM to Balanchine? He's stuck in an airport somewhere and I'm sure there's much he'd like to discuss with you.

Bob P wrote on Jul 24^th, 2008 at 8:34am:

I remember a guy some time back who said that launching some knuckle children at the first sign of an attack would abort it.

Really late into this thread (a late-"comer", you might say) but I really LMAO-ed at this.

Fantastic.  :D Any more where that came from?

So as not to offend delicate sensibilities, I've provided a list to hurtsogood in a PM.

And the list provided is good.  :D

As a BTW on the accents issue, Linux lets you use different keyboards at the same time. My keboard is set as Irish (Gaelic), but if I click a menu bar item it will cycle through English and Polish.

wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 10:28pm:

And yet many around here will say that, more than any other single factor, it is stress that keeps the beast at bay.

In my case, stress makes it much worse... I don't think it will start a cycle (although giving birth did, dunno if it was because of the stress or hormones) but if I am in cycle, I'll get a hit if I get too stressed out. So I gotta stay calm!!

Jess

Balanchine wrote on Jul 29^th, 2008 at 11:29am:

Qu'est-ce que je peux dire? Mon francais est mieux que mon allemagne. But sorry Pascal, I don't know a word of dutch... although I've been to the netherlands several times and it's a lovely country. Man, this Wurzburg airport is big....!

Quelqu'un qui parle francais!! Alors la, c'est une premiere!! Au moin quelque chose que je peux comprendre!!

Didn't think I would find a french speaker around here!!

Jess

Jess.... my French is years behind me, I'm afraid. Mais on essai de temps en temps....

Think I'll stick to good old Amurican from here on out!

David

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Thanks, Friedrich. I'm going to print that piece out and tape it to my chest. Then I'll walk into one of Hollywood's "hot" singles' hangouts, stick my lower lip out in a pout, wipe a tear from my (already drooping right) eye and watch the women swarm!

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