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Message started by Batch on Jul 8th, 2010 at 5:22pm

Title: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by Batch on Jul 8th, 2010 at 5:22pm
Some of you have followed my posts on the effects of a low arterial pH on cluster headaches.  The data I've collected indicate a direct correlation between a low arterial pH and an increase in the frequency and intensity of my cluster headaches.  I've found that every time I go into a high cycle (3 to 4 hits a day), my saliva pH is lower than my daily average during a low cycle (3 to 4 hits a week).

If you followed these posts, you've also read where I use calcium citrate tablets with vitamin D, magnesium and zinc washed down with a couple glasses of homemade lemonade to elevate my arterial pH back up and push me back into a low cycle.

Alcohol (ETOH) is normally not a trigger for me and even if it was, I've got high flow rate oxygen inhalation therapy at the ready so I'll be darned if I'm going to let the beast deprive me of my nightly libation of rum & diet coke. 

Having said that, under low arterial pH conditions there can be an up-tic in the frequency of my cluster headaches, but these usually occur several hours after the libations, hitting most often during sleep.

With over a week of 95º degree plus temperatures (104º Monday through Wednesday), a couple of Joyce's superb Margaritas with dinner have been the libation of choice.

Now for the kicker…  I've had no (zero) hits after a week of two margaritas a day…

I'm inclined to attribute the complete absence of cluster headaches to the limejuice and citric acid additive used in José Cuervo Margarita mix. 

I've been in a low cycle for the last two months and haven't been taking the mineral supplements, so the only other possible contributing factor might be the extra vitamin D3 my skin generates from a couple hours of ultraviolet B (UVB) radiation from direct sun while watering the garden and lawn. 

As the skin produces approximately 10,000 IU of vitamin D in response 20–30 minutes summer sun exposure (50 times more than the US government's recommendation of 200 IU per day), I figure I'm generating 30,000 to 40,000 IU of Vitamin D3.

Whatever the reason…  2 margarita's a day, 2 hours direct sun light a day, or both…  I'm loving it.  :D

Take care,

V/R, Batch

Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by donna mae on Jul 8th, 2010 at 5:49pm
Good for you Pete! Enjoy those Marguairitas and the wonderful sunshine. So glad to hear you are in PF time and enjoying life.

Thanks for sharing!  :)

Donna Mae

P.S. I've started a lemonade daily regiment along with Calcium citrate w/D. What mg Zinc and Magnesium do you recommend?


Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by lorac on Jul 8th, 2010 at 8:12pm
WOW... Great for you batch.
  10,000 iu of d....I must be wayyyy over that
lol.......im in my garden a lot.
   keep us posted about ya      

Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by black on Jul 8th, 2010 at 9:37pm
i get the sun too and extra vitamin D3 pills 5000 iu everyday but hits still coming on. 

Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by Dennis on Jul 8th, 2010 at 10:06pm
Hi Batch,

Congratulations on your success with this regimen.  I find your results very interesting. 

I just have one question:  Why use the lemonade with the citric acid, if the goal is to raise arterial pH?  Usually citrate buffer solutions are used in a pH range of 3.0 to 6.0. 

Thanks for sharing your progress, and for all your excellent info on Oxygen as well.

Dennis

Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by Callico on Jul 8th, 2010 at 11:38pm
GReat news, my friend!  May it never end.

Jerry

Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by Batch on Jul 9th, 2010 at 2:45am
Donna Mae,

I take the Kirkland™ brand calcium citrate tablets that also contain vitamin D, magnesium and zinc all in one tablet.  I get them at Costco...  If you can't get to Costco, you can get the same basic formula by taking Citracal Plus Bone Density Builder™ tablets.  Most food stores carry them.

Dennis, you're quite correct and your chemistry is spot on.  The calcium citrate mineral supplements combined with the citric acid in lemonade (and lime juice) act as a buffer on the stomach's gastric juices (hydrochloric acid) that have a normal pH range of 1 to 2.5.  That's a very acidic solution... 

The calcium citrate and lemonade (citric acid) combination acts as a buffer on the stomach contents and elevates it up to a pH of 4.0 and maintains this pH level for up to 5 hours.  That's still acidic but no where near the normal level of stomach content acidity.  See the link at:  bja.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/77/5/642.pdf for more details.

Under normal conditions, the small intestine requires the stomach contents (chyme) to be pH neutral (7.4) so chemo receptors in the upper part of the small intestine signal the pancreas to dump a bicarbonate solution into the small intestine to neutralize the acidity and elevate the chyme up to pH 7.4.  If you want more information on this process, see the following link at:

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The trick here is the stomach effluents (chyme) that have been buffered up to a pH of 4.0 still look acidic to the chemo receptors in the small intestine.  When the pancreas dumps in the same amount of bicarbonate to elevate the chyme's pH of 1 to 2.5, there's an overshoot...  and the contents of the small intestine are pushed above a pH of 7.4 making the chyme in the small intestine more alkaline.

Here's the payoff...  As the arteries and capillaries in the small intestine pull nutrients from its contents...  and the contents have an elevated pH above 7.4 by virtue of the pancreatic reaction to the mineral supplements and citric acid buffer, the pH of the bloodstream elevates to more alkaline levels above a pH of 7.4 and this sets off another chain reaction.

The body regulates arterial pH through a number of homeostatic processes...  When it senses the elevated pH >7.4, it interprets this as not enough carbon dioxide.  As a first and most rapid reaction, the elevated pH triggers a reduction in the respiration rate and vasoconstriction to slow the loss of CO2 from the lungs.  This happens in a matter of a few minutes and with a little luck, the vasoconstriction resulting from the mineral supplement and lemonade buffer, prevents the cluster headache triggering mechanism from triggering an attack. 

The second reaction to the elevated arterial pH takes much longer (several hours) as the kidneys start retaining the H+ ion and slowing its passing into the urine to increase the acidity of the bloodstream back towards the neutral pH of 7.4.  If you want to read more on homeostasis and blood pH see the following link at:

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The bottom line is better living through chemistry...  and a couple margaritas a day can keep the beast away... :D

Take care,

V/R, Batch


Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by Dennis on Jul 9th, 2010 at 10:46pm
Batch,

It is stunning how thoroughly you have researched this.  Bravo Zulu!

Thanks very much for indulging my curiosity with all the details in your last post. 

I have completely halted my attacks for the last few days with a Lithium/Verapamil cocktail, and I suppose I'll give it a couple more weeks and try tapering off.

I detest the side effects of this stuff, so I am inclined to just load up the oxygen tanks and give your preventive regimen a try next time.

After 35 years of clusters, I'm certain that I'll have that opportunity.

Thanks again for your contributions to the good fight.

Dennis

Title: Re: 104º F (40º C) + 2 Margaritas/Day = No Hits 1 Wk
Post by wimsey1 on Jul 10th, 2010 at 8:32am
Let me add my congratulations, Batch, and may all of our days and nights be pf. Enjoy the margaritas while, and for as long as, you can! lance

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