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Message started by Glenna on Aug 17th, 2011 at 9:21am

Title: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Glenna on Aug 17th, 2011 at 9:21am
I am 39 - female - and have been dealing with clusters for a little over 2 years now, as well as migraines. I have only tried Verapimil as a preventaive - 120mg. I do not have high blood pressure and this exhausted me from my pressure staying too low.

I moved a little over a year ago and have had to start over with Drs. My stress level is off the charts!! I am on my 4th cluster cycle in 2011 and ready to give up! I have done 4 steroid packs this year - I hate them! I do 10mg of Melatonin every night at bed. Yesterday, my new neurologist prescribed Trazodone as a sleep aid/preventative - 50 mg. I took it around 9:30 and did not have uninterrupted sleep, although I don't remember dreaming.  Today, I am wiped! Is this a legit treatment and does it work? I need help and I need the preventative, but I work and can not be this sleepy. Are there more side affects that I should know about?

I see a counselor who does not think I need anti-depressants, and Trazodone is one. Does anyone have experience here?

Thanks!!

Glenna

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by vietvet2tours on Aug 17th, 2011 at 9:34am
Never heard of it.

    Potter

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Bob Johnson on Aug 17th, 2011 at 10:04am
No anti-depressants are used for prevention. See the PDF file, below, for the latest evaluation report on commonlly used meds. (Print it out and share with your neuro as a tool for discussing treatment optiions. Might consider giving him a copy of the long manual, below.)

This manual is broader in content but you may find it worth reading as general information.

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Melatonin as sleep aid: several years ago a good study from England found that using 1/2-3/4mg melatonin was more effective than larger doses. You might try this, vs. 10mg, for a week and see if it's more effective for you.
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=THERAPIES-_Headache_2011.pdf (96 KB | 16 )

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Glenna on Aug 17th, 2011 at 10:14am
Thanks! I'll check it out. I don't need an anti-depressant, but I think this is also used just as a sleep aid. I wasn't sure if there was a new theory that connected sleep trouble with clusters. Got some reading to do....  :)

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Bob Johnson on Aug 17th, 2011 at 3:50pm
There is some suggestion that sleep apnea is a trigger for Cluster but not "normal" difficulty getting to sleep.

The class of anti-dep. you mention have long been used as a sleeping aid even when the issue of actual depression is on the table or not.

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Pfunk on Aug 19th, 2011 at 9:15am
From my experience, trazadone is by design a heavy duty tranquilizer type medicine. Thus, it is normally used to help with sleep. When I took it, I remember it being strong enough to put down a horse. But, never have I heard of iit being used as a prevent. I think they may give it to you to try and keep you asleep through the night. Might I suggest you take a higher dose of melatonin and maybe use the time-released version. Has worked with some succes for me. Best of luck and PF wishes.

Pfunk 8-)

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Glenna on Aug 19th, 2011 at 9:26am
Pfunk - how much Melatonin do you take? I'm at 10 mg now. How high is too high?

Glenna

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Karla on Aug 19th, 2011 at 10:03am
I tried trazadone for depression and while taking it it did nothing for my ch.  It is very strong medicine and does make u very sleepy.

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Pfunk on Aug 19th, 2011 at 10:11am
I am not 100% positive how much melatonin would be too high but I have heard alot say they take 12-15mg. Currently, I take 15mg time released every night. It helps me get to sleep quite well and normally does a very decent job helping me stay there. Trazadone never realy did much except to give me that dopey dragging feeling when I woke up.

Pfunk 8-)

Title: Re: Trazodone as preventative?
Post by Katherinecm on Aug 25th, 2011 at 10:25pm
It's an antidepressant commonly prescribed as a sleep aid.   It's not addictive so if someone complains of insomnia it's one of the first options given.

There are a few "antidepressants" that can be used as a preventative, such as wellbutrin, but they very rarely work and so generally they're one of the last things tried.  I tried WB and I suspect I was given it more because my neuro was very concerned with depression ABOUT my CH than her thought that it would affect CH at all.   IDK that it did help, but I did have more vivid dreams and I suspect I coped with the pain a little better.

I've read that there is some concern that any medication that is given as a sleep aid could cause a downward spiral and make things worse as they negatively affect REM (dreaming) which is thought to be one of the healing stages of sleep.  I've never been able to find a study supporting that though, so it may be only supposition. 

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