Hi all,
  This is my first post although I've been visiting the site for several years.  I seem to get CH once every winter for about 3-4 months.  In the past (before I knew what was going on) I didnt do anything except suffer thru them.  My family doctor did nothing and finally a neurologist prescribed Pred & O2 (plus, of course imitrex - pills).  In the past the Pred has broken the cycle.  This time I started it as soon as the CH came back and nothing much happened.  About a week after the 12 day Pred pack finished I had 5 days free and now it's back.  From what I've read this seems to be not that uncommon - Is that kinda normal?  This is the first cycle I've had with the O2  - What A God send!!!!  It's been a wonderful abortive! 

Hi Wyllys, So sorry you are gettng hit again.  What you described with the Pred happens to me too.  That is why I usually get a prescription for Verapamil to go with it.  The Pred gives you short term relief while the verapamil builds up in your system.  If you go to the other boards here you will find much more information. 

As an FYI, most of us find the Imitrex pills useless.  they generally take too long to work.  I personally find the nasal sprays work fine for me, but many others here prefer the injections.

I'm sure if you post a little more about yourself on the "getting to know ya" board, you will get much more knowledgable advice than mine.

Hoping you get some PF time soon,

Indy

That's always been my experience with pred. 100% relief, but as soon as i go off the pred, WAM! I use it strictly as a transitional med now, for the 10-14 days it take me to ramp up on my prevent, lithium. Talk to your neuro about a decent prevent med like Verapamil, Lithium or Topomax. This is a bit lengthy, from a posting our research member, Bob Johnson put up:

A widely used protocol. Your doc will recognize the source and author:

Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   

Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.


    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).

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SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.




Great to hear you have oxygen now. A total game changer for me. Beasty went from being that big dark cloud that invaded every aspect of my life, to a minor annoyance that the jolly green E-Tank can slay in a matter of 6-8 minutes.

Joe

Pred usually does the trick for me to, though this time it's been a bit less successful. Good to see you've got a few back up plans going on. You may also want to look into the Vitamin D3 regimen a lot of people have benefited from.