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Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1531176160 Message started by DanAge50 on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:42pm |
Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by Racer1_NC on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:40pm
That post is a very good illustration on how I like to utilize O2. That being said I tend to forgo abdominal crunch and just repeat everything else as fast as I can.
I can out run a 25lpm reg doing it that way and I generally abort in 5 minutes.....10 on the outside. Batch also has a room air / O2 hyperventilating method he uses. I've never had much luck with it so I wouldn't be the one to coach you on how to do it. :-/ I tell people to take all the advice they can get and try everything...then use what tends to work the best for them. Everyone is different. |
Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by sj904fighter on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:56pm
I use that technique, and it works every time for me. What I do to conserve O2 is simply turn off the regulator after the reservoir is refilled (while holding my breath). Then I turn it back on as soon as I take my next breath. Doing that, I have been able to get through 3 attacks with a littte D tank with some left over.
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Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by sj904fighter on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:27pm
Looks like I’ve been doing it wrong. I could’ve sworn I was told to hold my breath between inhalation and exhalation. That HAS been working, but I’m sure this way will be better. I’ll make the adjustment tonight. Thank you for the post.
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Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by maz on Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:10am
The idea is simply to get as much 02 into your lungs as quickly as possible, which will constrict the necessary artery to take pressure off the nerve. All I do is breathe deeply and as long as I got on it soon enough it works in 10 - 15 mins.
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Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by Mike NZ on Jul 12th, 2018 at 4:12am
Using the approach from Batch, minus the abdominal crunch bit which was added after D3 started its magic, I was able to abort a CH in about 3 minutes using 25lpm flow rate (about 12 min at 15lpm).
And Dan, practicing before you get a CH is a great way to learn how to use your O2, so much easier than when you're mid-CH by far. You're doing a lot of things right. Any update on seeing a headache specialist yet? |
Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by Radar63 on Sep 2nd, 2018 at 3:29am
Good morning all,
I had thought I had got away with it this year, no headaches at all in my usual spring time. So I find myself back here updating at the start of September. I am trying the approach to O2 here, however no matter how hard I try I can’t hyperventilate. I stand, deeply inhale, exhale at the end of the inhale as hard as I can, then crunch and expel and wheeze, then repeat this for about 5 cycles, then take a full 3 litre bag of 100% O2 as quickly as is possible, then hold for 30 seconds and exhale. I never get that feeling of tingling lips and dizziness. When I did the spirometer test a little while ago I kept blowing the device off the scale. My HAs do abort after about 15 to 20 mins, I am struggling to see a way to hyperventilation. Any advice please? Thank you as always to Batch and all who help on here. Ian |
Title: Re: Breathing correctly with 02 to get a fast abort. Post by Batch on Sep 3rd, 2018 at 1:26pm
Hey Radar,
Try 10 to 15 cycles with room air before the lungful of oxygen. Five is not enough... Take care, V/A, Batch |
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