Could someone clarify if there is an issue here ?  I'm currently not having allot of success with the D3 (testing to happen this week for levels).  It was my understanding that you shouldn't include the Calcium in the regimen while taking Verapamil.  If that's not the case could the lack of calcium be my problem ?

Thanks
Johnny

Hi Johnny...welcome aboard!

The quick answer would be that calcium and verapamil do not play well together and ingestion should be separated by 2 hrs...so not necessarily the elimination of the calcium.

HOWEVER,  the BETTER answer would be to talk to your pharmacist. It depends on several factors including: the dosage of each....and the type of verapamil (extended release vs immediate release)...and your own personal health condition (s).

AND... you should ALWAYS inform your Doc/Pharmacist of ALL supplements you are taking....and use the drugs.com or similar drug interaction checker....


See below (from the drugs.com website "drug interaction checker")



Moderate interaction

verapamil  calcium citrate (same for calcium carbonate)

Applies to: verapamil, calcium citrate

Using verapamil together with calcium citrate can decrease the effects of verapamil. Talk with your doctor before using verapamil and calcium citrate together. You may need a dose adjustment or need your blood pressure checked more often if you take both medications. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor.

Best

Jon (my Nano called me Jonny  ;))

Hi Johnny and welcome

A perfect answer from Jon around the D3 and calcium.

I've found that pharmacists love answering questions like this as it gives them a real chance to be a pharmacist as opposed to just routine dispensing of drugs.

Any more questions, fire away, we'll help as much as we can.

Hey Johnny,

If the anti-inflammatory regimen is not preventing your CH, I have a few questions.

What is the frequency of your CH?  Is it 3 or more in a 24 hour period?

Did you start this regimen with the 12-Day accelerated vitamin D3 loading schedule taking 50,000 IU/day vitamin D3 for 12 days plus all the cofactors?  The following chart illustrates how this accelerated vitamin D3 loading schedule increases serum 25(OH)D concentrations rapidly to therapeutic levels sufficient to prevent CH.  Without this loading schedule, taking 10,000 IU/day will work but it can take a month or two for some CHers to reach a therapeutic level as illustrated in the time course 25(OH)D response.
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Are you taking all the vitamin D3 cofactors listed in the treatment protocol at the following link and illustrated in the photo below?

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This photo illustrates the basic anti-inflammatory regimen and doses I take daily.  The Kirkland brand Adult 50+ Mature Multi is formulated with most of the vitamin D3 cofactors.  It just doesn't have enough magnesium or any vitamin K2.  This is why I suggest the Nature Made 400 mg magnesium liquid soft gels and Life Extension's Super K with Advanced K2 complex.  The Mature Multi also contains 200 mg calcium, but that small amount shouldn't interfere with the Verapamil.  Quite a few CHers have started this regimen while taking verapamil and not reported any problems...  My guess is the verapamil wasn't working all that well or you wouldn't have started the vitamin D3

Have you started the 3-Month course of vitamin B complex?

Have you tried a week to 10-Day course of Benadryl (Diphenhydramine HCL) at 25 mg four times a day?  This comes in handy if you've an allergic reaction cooking away as an allergic reaction releases histamine that in turn, triggers a CGRP cascade.  When that happens, none of the Standards of Care recommended CH interventions are effective.

Take care and please keep us posted.

V/R, Batch