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Reply #775 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 8:36pm
 
Thank you Joe I will push for him to prescribe me oxygen and ill check out the link and take down the right information to make sure I get the right equipment with it.

I really appreciate the feedback my name is Dalton
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Reply #776 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 9:14pm
 
No problem Dalton, keep firing the questions and keep reading. Knowledge is one of your best allies against the beasty! Wink

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Reply #777 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 9:44pm
 
You won't believe how much reading around I would do to find answer to my questions and how I often I would find myself coming back to this forum. So today I decided to take the plunge and join the community and I'm glad I did. The information available and community support seems so good. It is nice to talk to people who understand how bad the pain is when you're in a cycle. It's hard to explain to people who have never had one what the pain is like and the type of headache it is, although I would never wish these on anyone. They are so painful!

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Reply #778 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 6:35pm
 
Magnesium is the only thing that has worked for me (500 mg in the morning and 500 mg at night). I'm currently reading "The Magnesium Solution for Migraine Headaches" and it promotes the use of magnesium and riboflavin (and feverfew) for the treatment of migraine and cluster headaches.
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Reply #779 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 6:41pm
 
Check out this link, it's a supplement regimen...including magnesium, helping a lot of people.

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Reply #780 - Jun 10th, 2013 at 11:34am
 
Hi,

I'm Steve an American living in Prague.  I've had episodic cluster headaches for the past 14 years.  The occur roughly ever 3 years for 3-4 months.  Probably like most, mine starts out with some tenderness around the left temple for a couple of months before the actual CHs hit.  Then it's hell for the rest of the period.  Usually starts out two per day and then increases in frequency and intensity until the peak period for two weeks of 8-10 fierce CHs per day, and then the trend reverses itself. 

I have moved around a lot for work, and I have not been really able to build up a relationship with a neuro that would probably help a lot.  Also, I have dealt with CHs in the US, India, France and Czech Republic, so I can give some advice about what to do (especially in India, no painkillers and fake IMITREX, so it can be a rough experience)

I have not had a good track record with the preventative care...  I have tried just about everything, including high dosage of topamax, but it doesn't really work.  My kit is basically oxygen, triptans, melatonin (knocks out the alarm clockers for me and it's gentle) and some vics for the peak period only. 

My CH period is about to start again, which sucks for a lot of reasons, one biggie is that I live in the beer capital of the world, and beer is one of my CH triggers during the period Sad

anyways, looking forward to getting to know you all and sharing and receiving advice.

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Reply #781 - Jun 10th, 2013 at 4:09pm
 
Hi Steve and welcome

For preventives you're relying on melatonin which seems to do fairly well for people overnight, but it won't really help for daytime CHs. You say you've tried "everything" however when people say that they have often not tried high enough doses. For verapamil whilst 360-480mg is often enough, some people go to over 1000mg a day to get relief.

Also have you tried out the vitamin D3 method that has worked very well for over 80% of people here? Many people have gone pain free for over a year with this (including myself).

I assume the "vics for the peak period" is vicodin, a narcotic pain killer. Generally pain killers are not ideal for CH. Used more than 2-3 times a week they are likely to result in rebound headaches, never mind the other problems with a highly addictive drug.

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Reply #782 - Sep 6th, 2013 at 12:30am
 
A walk down memory lane here. Glad to see so many familiar faces but sorry to see so many "exes" Hope it is for the main reason I am absent- remission. Love to everyone- WtheB
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Reply #783 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 7:32am
 
Hi all
not sure if I have posted this to right section.
35 year old living in Ireland diagnoised as a CH sufferer finally last year after going round in circles for a couple of years.( not a lot known about CH here) currently on oxegyen and indomectasin but the last week to 10 days these have provided little relief. the weather here changed in the last few days and im thinking might have something to do with it but maybe clutching at straws.Glad to find this website and wondering is there any irish on this site. Nice to read all the content learning a lot from it and good to make contact with people who understand the pain
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Reply #784 - Sep 20th, 2013 at 9:03am
 
Welcome to the board Dermot. Are you working with a headache specialist neuro yet? We have seen the best results from doing so. There are hundreds of headache types, some which mimic CH, and it’s important to eliminate those before arriving at a firm diagnosis. I’ve had CH for 35 years, they haven’t killed me yet! You need an organized approach to managing them so they don’t manage your life. I use a 3 pronged approach, many use a similar approach. But first and MOST IMPORTANTLY

Follow this link to the medications section of this board and read the post 

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It’s a vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplement, all over the counter stuff. It’s up to an 81% success rate of those who try it and respond to the survey so you’re just shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t give it a shot. I’m 3 years pain free on it after a 35 plus year track record with episodic CH. Best of all, it’s healthy for you even without CH!

As of January 20, 2013, the compiled raw data indicates an efficacy of 80%. 240 out of the 300 CH'ers who have started this regimen and stayed on it for a month or more have experienced a significant reduction in the frequency and severity of their CH... 78% of the 300 CH'ers experienced a pain free response and 60% of the 300 have remained essentially pain free. Episodic and chronic CH'ers respond to this regimen at roughly the same rate.
Preliminary survey results indicate most of these CH'ers were pain free before the end of the third week with some responding in a little as 12 to 24 hours. The average time to respond is five days

So all that follows will be worthless I hope……….but still…

1: A good prevent med. A med I take daily, while on cycle, to reduce the number and intensity of my attacks. I use lithium, it blocks 60-70% of my attack. Verapamil is the most common first line prevent, topomax also has a loyal following. Some have to combine lithium and verapamil together to get relief.

2: A transitional med. Most prevents will take up to 2 weeks to become effective. I go on a prednisone taper, from 80 mg to zero over a two week period to give me a break while my prevent builds up. Prednisone will provide up to 100% relief for many CH’ers but is harsh on the system and should only be used for short periods of time.

3: An abortive therapy, the attack starts, now what? Oxygen should be your first line abortive. Breathing pure 02 will abort an attack for me in less then 10 minutes, that’s completely pain free. Read this link as it must be used correctly or it will not work

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Imitrex nasal spray and injectables are very effective abortives. I use the injectables, they’re expensive, and I rarely use them, mostly just when I get caught away from the oxygen. The pill form generally works too slow to be effective for CH’ers.


For now, get some energy drinks. Rock Star, Monster, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine, chug it down as fast as you can when you feel an attack starting. Many can abort or at least really reduce an attack using these.

Visit your local support group:

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They will have some area specific info that might help you navigate your health system on that side of the pond!

Finally, visit our sister board for “alternative” treatment methods outside of mainstream medicine. As you’ll see from all the success stories on this board, there is something to it.

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Read everything you can on this board, if you are a CH’er, knowledge is your best ally. We’ll help you all we can.

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Reply #785 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:01pm
 
Hi all, my name is Peter and I live in the Netherlands. Almost 50 years old. Married with Mary and no kids.

Looking back, my story starts almost 30 years ago. Every few months I would have a day in a weekend of serious headache, which would last for 1 - 2 hours. I never went to see a doctor and it disappeared for a couple of years before it started all over again.

In 2006 I was visiting my wife's family in the Philippines and after almost 2 weeks the beast came in to my life for more than one day. The hospital diagnosed muscle spasm in my neck and gave me muscle relaxing pills. As far as I can recall, the "cycle" didn't last for longer than a couple of days, so I was happy with the pills.

In 2011, again in the Philippines, after about one week being there, it was back. Went to the hospital and told the story and they gave me the same pills again. It didn't stop and like many of you, I started to ask myself why, what the f... is this. I started to surf the web and found a Dutch site on headaches. Normal headache, migrane and cluster headache. After reading the section on cluster headache I knew that I had the beast in me. Every night around 11 pm it would be there. Sometimes for 45 minutes, sometimes for 75 minutes. Level 9 Kip scale I guess (never been suicidal).

I went to the dokter and told her I had cluster headache. At first she would not believe me, but eventually she gave me Zomig. I'm still not sure if Zomig helped, but the pain was gone. Not sure, because the cycle is not that long (specially when I compare to most of you) and it could be that it just stopped. Anyway, after reading here, I know that I'm "lucky" to "only" have episodic (I guess every 5-6 years) cycles of "only" 5-10 days and "only" one attack a day  Roll Eyes.

The next few days I will be reading more over here. Hopfully I will find tips and tricks that help me to keep it away  Wink.
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Reply #786 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:47pm
 
Welcome to the board peter, glad you found us!

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Reply #787 - Nov 7th, 2013 at 8:59pm
 
Good day to you all. My name is Luis Miguel Navarro. I'm from Colombia in South America. I'm 29 yo. I experienced cluster mthr fkr for the first time in 2008. Mine is episodic LOBOTOMY (is how I describe this crap). Never thought so much pain could be experienced... I cried myself to sleep many times thinking only a tumor could be causing so much pain... Pretty soon overcame the fear to know the truth and decided to ask for help... I was very lucky to receive immediate diagnosis which in my case was a great relief...
I'm grateful to know that I'm not alone... that I can call myself a cluster head... That medicine and research are advancing in this field...
It strikes almost every year at the end (the influence of venus and its power on fluids (blood pressure) I guess)  ... but this year the beast made it clear how much he or she cares for me and visited me the day of my birthday (17th october)... can you imagine??? I was fine with it waking me up every day at the same time or progressing by an hour (which is awful, I'm being sarcastic)... but my birthday??? give me a break...

Cigarets, alcohol and weed are not an option during the yearly visit... they all trigger these mad disaster.

My mom thinks i'm a wuzz... and my friends make fun of me!!! but I know I can take pain... in fact few weeks before the first strike this year I broke my hand (distal radius) and felt no pain... not even after the surgery... so it is not all bad... resilience is something I know we are all getting in huge quantities...

Today I visited a new neurologist with new cards under his sleeve... I will share how the prophylactic treatment and reactive treatment goes (which I call fire fighting) ...

Meanwhile I want to share this great letter I found in the web which I think we should all have at hand for people to really understand how shitty our life is when Mr. Cluster decides to crash!!! (links in english and spanish) (sorry didn't allow me to post links)

I hope you all get better w/o cutting your head off your body!!!

PS: I always jump into the hot or cold shower in episodes and it helps... not always relieving the pain but at least you can distract yourself from wanting to end your life!!!

Cheers,
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Reply #788 - Nov 7th, 2013 at 9:03pm
 
a letter for non-clusteric people you come across: (this was the link)

CLUSTER HEADACHE SYNDROME

A note for those who know a C.H. sufferer:

Why should I read this?

Someone you know has probably given you this note to explain a little about a
condition they suffer from called Cluster Headache Syndrome. It is likely that
before you met them, you had never heard of this condition, which, after all,
affects less than 1% of the population.

Because it is so rare, sufferers often feel isolated, especially through
misunderstanding by those who do not fully appreciate its effects. This short
explanation is intended to help with that.

What is it?

The term “headache” is very misleading. Your friend or coworker is not
experiencing the typical symptoms of familiar primary headaches, such as
Migraine and Tension. Cluster Headache (CH) has a prevalence of
approximately 69 cases per 100,000 people, although it may be much higher.
The cause and cure of Cluster Headache Syndrome are unknown. Cluster
Headache sufferers fall into two categories: Episodic and Chronic. Episodic
sufferers experience headaches in clusters for a period of typically six weeks to
six months and will go into periods of remissions typically lasting from six months
to 3 years. Chronic sufferers experience no periods of remission lasting longer
than two weeks in the period of one year.

A CH attack is unilateral (one sided). Pain may begin around one eye, “Like a
nail or knife stabbing and piercing” the eye, or as if someone “were pulling out”
your eye. It may be accompanied by a tearing or bloodshot eye, drooping eyelid,
dilated pupil and nasal congestion or runny nose on the side of the attack. It can
radiate from the eye to the forehead, temple, ear, cheek, jaw and neck on the
same side. The pain of a CH has been described as piercing or boring and so
excruciating that most victims cannot sit still and feel compelled to rock in a chair,
walk back and forth, or bang their heads against something. The pain is so
extreme that Dr. Peter Goadsby, Professor of Clinical Neurology at University
College, London, and the worlds leading researcher on CH has commented, “Cluster headache is probably the worst pain that humans experience. I know
that’s quite a strong remark to make, but if you ask a cluster headache patient if
they’ve had a worse experience, they’ll universally say they haven’t. Women with
cluster headache will tell you that an attack is worse than giving birth. So you can
imagine that these people give birth without anesthetic once or twice a day, for
six, eight or ten weeks at a time, and then have a break. It’s just awful.” Most CH
victims experience these attacks 2 to 10 times daily. The pain quickly escalates
from no pain to unbearable pain within five minutes. The pain subsides in the
same manner. Attacks can last anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours or more.

Those bald facts, though, do not do justice to the pain experienced. A more
sinister name for a CH is “suicide headache” - for obvious reasons. More than
half of all sufferers have considered this.

A curiosity of Cluster Headache Syndrome is that both the individual attacks and
the clusters themselves can have an almost metronomic regularity - attacks
starting at a precise time of day are typical.

It is a headache, in that the pain is in the head, but that is really where the
similarity ends. The name itself leads to confusion, as people immediately think
of it as something that can be cureby taking a pill, or by thinking of it as a
migraine.

CH sufferers experience some of the most intense pain known to the medical
field. There are many medications available to help CH patients manage their
condition. Medications fall into three categories: Preventive (medications which
are used to abort the cycle, such as steroids, Verapamil, Lithium, etc.) Transient
(medications used to help while the preventatives take effect, such as
Prednisone and other steroids), and Abortive (medications which are used to
abort the headache, such as Imitrex, oxygen, etc.) Narcotic medications are not
recommended as effective management for cluster headaches.

How is your friend affected?

This will vary enormously, and, surprisingly, you will almost certainly never
witness a full-blown attack. Seeing someone in that state can be quite terrifying.
Sufferers are reluctant to allow anyone else to see them at that point, for three
main reasons: first, with family and friends, it is simply to avoid them having to
see something which, as they are powerless to help, is very upsetting; second,
no-one is keen to be seen in a state where they will scream, cry, pace, hit their
head repeatedly and generally be uncontrollable - dignity does matter; and three,
coping with the attack is wearing in the extreme, and having to cope with other
people around is just not possible for most.

In addition the cumulative effects of repeated attacks, and the medications used,
can lead to tiredness, irritability, and an occasional loss of temper (particularly when it is suggested that things can’t possibly be that bad). Depression is quite
common. Some individuals lose their jobs, and even partners and homes, as a
result of CH. That said, because having to cope is part of the nature of the
condition, most sufferers will “get along” - they have to be quite strong to survive.

Most can be helped by medication, but, because the cause of the illness in
unknown there is no cure. The medications often mask or reduce the symptoms,
but do not remove them.

It should be noted here that doctors are often poorly informed about Cluster
Headache Syndrome and misdiagnosis is very common. Some GPs are reluctant
to prescribe certain drugs, even when they are known to be effective.

What can you do to help?

When an attack hits, there is nothing anyone can do, unless the sufferer requests
help. The best thing is to stay well away. Afterwards, a quiet word is probably a
good idea. You may find the sufferer will talk about what he goes through if you
ask - he may appreciate the opportunity to explain. Sympathy will be appreciated,
certainly, and, if you are working with someone, make sure that you do not give
any reason for them to think that you blame them for the inconvenience they may
have caused. Most will be keen to get on with things, and repay any efforts you
have made to cover for them, if the nature of the work allows.

Things to avoid saying/doing

Most sufferers are happy to discuss how things affect them, and how you can
best help them, but you will find your conversations very short if you say any of
the following:

“I had one of those once” - no-one ever has one cluster headache
“My aunt has migraine too” - migraine is nothing like a CH.
“Can’t you just take a tablet and lie down?” - No is the answer, most
sufferers cannot lie down during an attack.
“Just pull yourself together and work through it” - suggest that, and step
back several paces!

This is not rudeness, but simply the result of experience. Sufferers know that
sometimes it is simply better to ignore remarks such as these and leave the
person in ignorance. If you have read this far, though, that probably doesn’t apply
to you!
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Reply #789 - Dec 11th, 2013 at 10:37pm
 
Hello, my name is Paul.  I'm 42 years old and have been a cluster head for 22 years.  I have episodic headaches in the fall/winter season that last for about 30/45 days.  My headaches have evolved over the last 22 years, going from 15 minute headaches everyday, to 3 hour long headaches every three to five days.  Im in a cycle right now and as I type this I have had the familiar burning ice pick feeling in my right eye for the last hour.  I have lurked on this site before and finally decided to join.  Smiley
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Reply #790 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 1:19am
 
Hi Paul and welcome

Have you got any CH preventives, something like verapamil, lithium or topomax?

Anything to abort CHs like oxygen or imitrex?

Whilst lurking did you read up about using energy drinks like Red Bull?

Similarly did you check out the way lots of us have had great success with vitamin D3? I've recently gone over 666 days pain free and some have gone over 1000.
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Reply #791 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:05am
 
Welcome to the board Paul, glad you finally stuck your head in!

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Reply #792 - Jun 13th, 2014 at 12:41pm
 
First day on this site.  Have had ch for 10 yrs mostly they have been a yearly episode lasting about 2 wks until this year  I have had three months of daily sometimes twice a day episodes My neurologist is trying everything.  Alot of which my insurance company wont cover including oxygen.  I dont know how much more I can take
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Reply #793 - Jun 14th, 2014 at 12:46am
 
Can't Take No More...

We know what you're going through and the good news is it doesn't need to be that  way.

Hang in there, do a little reading here at CH.com and see your PCP for the lab test for 25(OH)D.

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Reply #794 - Jun 15th, 2014 at 5:23am
 
Good morning all - if we can call it good at 3:30 am. Demons back, six day in so far. Second visit in last 12 hours from my old friend of 23 years. Yesterday's visit was 7-8 so I guess my wake up call at a k5 is lucky. I have visited this site several times over the years but I finally registered and this is my meet and greet post. I just needed to reach out and say hi since I have been dancing the night away, waiting for the shadow to show up and try to get some rest before work tomorrow. I'm not griping, at least it will be about another 12 hours (hopefully) before my next song is played and I get to dance all over again. Again, just wanted to say hi to anyone else who is playing the same song tonight...
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Reply #795 - Jun 21st, 2014 at 9:34pm
 
Hi, my name is Loren and I am a 29-year-old female. I was diagnosed with cluster headaches last week and have been experiencing them for two weeks, although it feels like a lifetime. I started having them a week after I returned from my honeymoon, my neurologist thinks it was triggered by the heat Sad

Although my doctor says my case is atypical, I was just wondering how long these cycles tend to last for? I have already been to the emergency room once because the nasal spray didn't work, and while I'm supposed to be starting oxygen treatment in the next few days, I am praying that this will not go on for much longer. Any comments or suggestions you have would be much appreciated! Thanks!
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Reply #796 - Jun 23rd, 2014 at 2:46am
 
Hi and welcome Loren

CH cycles can last anything from a few days to months to years, although for most people a typical cycle is a month or two.

Whilst there are common triggers for a CH, like alcohol, we don't really know what triggers a CH cycle although for many people cycles can start around spring and fall (autumn) but they can start at any point through the year.

Visiting the ER rarely results in good CH treatment since CH is relatively rare and most doctors, even most neurologists know little about them. This is why we always recommend that people work with a headache specialist who has good experience in dealing with CH.

For the nasal spray, is this imitrex?

Have you been given anything to help prevent CH, something like verapamil, lithium or topomax?

Keep reading the forums and you'll learn a lot about CH. Ask all the questions you can think of.
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Reply #797 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 4:06pm
 
Hi,

I'm Tim. I live in Calgary, Canada. I've been reading and learning on the site for a few years. Decided to say hello today. I'm in my first cycle in a year and a half. My health insurance just maxed out in the middle of a cycle.

I'm 49 and have been having CH since I was 22. Jeez, 27 years now. Undiagnosed until a few years ago. My experience with doctors has not been great. A few years ago after much research I pretty much diagnosed myself as suffering from CH. Finally found a doctor who would prescribe what I asked for, injectable Imitrex, which is pretty great while it lasts, but is very expensive.

I've been episodic with occasional remissions. Some remissions have lasted two years. These always make me so hopeful. But alas, they return. Normally, I get one or two cycles a year. Always around the solstices. I never noticed this until reading about it somewhere. They usually last for 4 to 6 weeks each time. Christmas usually sucks. I get them at other times of day also, but one almost always wake me at 2 AM. I'm tired a lot.

Thanks to this site and other research, I've gotten pretty good at dealing. I'm still filled with fear during a cycle. Usually try not to plan anything significant. But that always fails. I always end up at some important event saying goodbye with a droopy eyelid.

The pain has gotten much more manageable since I've picked up some tools for dealing with all this. My tools are as follows:
  • Oxygen
  • Imitrex
  • Caffeine, energy drinks
  • Hot/Cold showers
  • Ice packs
  • Breathing cool air
  • Breathing exercises
  • No alcohol during cycles

It still sucks, but I'm certainly not as afraid or alone or depressed as I used to be. For most of my time with CH, they almost always ended up being a 9 or a 10 on the Kip Scale. These days, I usually top out at about 7. And that is a big difference!

Moving forward, I'd like to try using mushrooms or LSD as a preventative. Worth a shot. I certainly used lots as a kid but the problem is, I'm almost 50 and wouldn't have the faintest idea where to buy that stuff now. Driving by my old high school is probably a bad idea.

I have a very supportive family. A big brood of kids and a wonderful partner. I've been very lucky.

It has been hard explaining things at work. I always end up breaking into tears with my boss and feeling like a fool. But at all the jobs I've had, people have usually been very supportive.

Thanks for all of your insight and experience. I don't have words for how much it has helped me.

One of my favourite things in the world is when one ends. Pure bliss.

Tim
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Re: Who is who here to the newcommers
Reply #798 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 6:06pm
 
Hi Tim and welcome,
If you are thinking about going down the mushroom road
there is a link to your left of this page ClusterBusters which
contains lots of info on this subject.

Hoppy.
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Re: Who is who here to the newcommers
Reply #799 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 12:59am
 
Hi Tim and welcome home (even though you've been here quite a while)

I noticed that you don't list anything that acts as a preventive, e.g. verapamil, lithium or topomax. Have your tried any of these with any success? After all a CH prevented is a zero pain compared to one aborted.

Also have you read up about how so many of us are using vitamin D3? It has helped over 80% of people who have used it, including myself (almost 2.5 years pain free now).
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