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Jul 7th, 2008 at 4:43pm
 
My fiance has had clusters since he was 30 & he's now 47.  We've been together for 7 years so I'm pretty familiar with his patterns and episodes.  This year's episode has been particularly brutal but we were through to where we thought we were finally on the end run (48 hours+ with no headache). 
Then, on Sunday, he was stung by a bee and within about 2 hours or so had a very bad cluster.  He isn't allergic to bee stings as a rule and doesn't normally have much of a reaction at all.  (but...FYI...this is the first time either of us remember him being stung during a cycle).  We assume the bee sting was the trigger, but are wondering if anyone else has had this happen and were there any residual effects?
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Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2008 at 10:49pm
 
I'm no doctor, but the allergic reactions I've seen to bee stings occurred in a very short period of time. 

I'm guessing that the sting and the attack were separate incidents, and their proximity in time is simple coincidence--but I certainly wouldn't take a bet on it either way.

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Reply #2 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 1:52am
 
Just a thought!
Is it possible the bee sting caused histamine levels in his body to rise and in turn causing the hit?
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Reply #3 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 10:24am
 
That's what we were thinking, that the histamine may have been the trigger/contributed somehow and wondered if anyone had suggestions to counteract that; just any benadryl type treatment I guess?

He has very good luck while on prednesone but as soon as he weans off, back they come with a vengeance.  The Docs, of course, don't want to give him any more prednesone.  Another reason we were glad we thought we were almost through until the bee sting  Undecided

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Reply #4 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 10:33am
 
Pat, Is he on any preventative?  Predisone is usually taken along with a prevent to give some pf time until the preventative has time to build up in the system.
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Reply #5 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 10:44am
 
Yes - he's on lithium as well.  Takes Imitrex or Maxalt for the attacks as well as oxygen.  (The oxygen alone helps sometimes but not all.) 

This has been the longest/most intense episode he's ever had.  The Docs think because of his age he may be nearing the end, but have told him they realize that isn't much of a comfort when you're in one of the worst you've ever had!   They also believe this cycle may be nearing the chronic category whereas he has previously been considered episodic.    Started in Jan or Feb of this year.  Since May have been very active, no set times, durations, intensities that type of thing.  They did mess around with his meds, too, which seem to make things worse.

We wondered for awhile there if we were going to be able to go on when they finally gave him prednesone again and it was like a miracle.   We thought the cycle was finally broken....but alas not.
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Reply #6 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 11:31am
 
Hoping it was just a bump on the road to remission.

Even when a person isn't allergic to bee stings, there is a toxin in the sting that can increase inflammation and disturb calcium metabolism - that is a normal response, which can be mild or not so mild.  I wouldn't be surprised if a sting was a trigger for someone who was in cycle.  Taking an antihistamine right after the sting might help some.

I haven't been stung in years, and don't remember being stung in cycle. Anyone else have experience to share?? 

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Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 12:20pm
 
I have no idea about bee sting and its effect on CH but its interesting to note that bee venom has been used medicinally for ages in the treatment of inflammatory and circulatory diseases.
Some research suggests a powerefull neurological effect on inflamed nerves and can cause excessive dilation of blood vessels, increase heartbeat and respiration.

So though a bee sting may cause local inflammation it is also said that the venom has strong anti-inflammatory compounds against issues like arthritis for instance.

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