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This is what the democrats......
Aug 1st, 2008 at 8:10pm
 
...think of you and your struggle to keep your head above water with your bills......They go on vacation!

"Rep. John Culberson used his cell phone to record this video after Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats refused to vote on an off-shore drilling measure, shut out the lights and turned of the microphones in the House of Representatives."

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Reply #1 - Aug 1st, 2008 at 9:43pm
 
Pelosi is INSANE.

Bush needs to order a special session (he can do this, executive order) and FORCE the issue before the election.

Make those A$$holes vote and show their true colors.  Then WE THE PEOPLE can know who we are voting for.


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Reply #2 - Aug 1st, 2008 at 9:55pm
 
Damnit to hell Jonny!!!!!  Why do you do this to me?!?!?!?! I just finished a cycle from hell, was feeling REALLY good, and you got me ALL FIRED UP over the #@%@$#%@ lib dems again. OK,, I am breathing deep,, relaxing,,, oohhmmmmm,    ,  there, all better now.  kind of amazing how well the country has been doing since the dems took over the majority,, aint it????  P.S. Jonny,, whatever you do,, PLEASE dont get me started on France.     Tuck
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Reply #3 - Aug 1st, 2008 at 10:04pm
 
tuck wrote on Aug 1st, 2008 at 9:55pm:
 kind of amazing how well the country has been doing since the dems took over the majority,, aint it????  


Yeah aint it?.......have a look! Wink

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Reply #4 - Aug 1st, 2008 at 10:19pm
 
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Bush needs to order a special session (he can do this, executive order) and FORCE the issue before the election.


Don't hold your breath waiting for Bush to do that.  Keep things as they are, or it might mess with his oil income.

Anyway you look at it, we are screwed.  Republicans or Democrats.  They are all idiots.

It has been said over and over again, but it will never happen.  We need to clean house, and get a whole NEW batch in both houses!

But again, we are left with the decision of the lesser of two idiots.  And it almost doesn't matter which party they are part of.  Neither one cares about you and me.  Only lining their own pockets, and the of pockets of their lackeys ...

What a GREAT fix to be in!

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Reply #5 - Aug 1st, 2008 at 10:21pm
 
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Pelosi is INSANE.


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Pelosi dont give a fuck because WE pay for her fucking gas, not just in her car.....but,in her fucking lear jet!

Edit to add: And some folks want to elect Obama?....he says he is going to raise ALL taxes.....LOL

SUCKERS!!!!!  Grin
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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2008 at 11:24pm
 
I never, ever enter into any political debate but I DO have a question....

Does anyone really think that Democrat or Republican...either one of them....actually gives a rats ass about the average guy/gal  out there working his/her  ass off.???  They care only about themselves no matter which party the ascribe to.




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Reply #7 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 12:40am
 
I can't speak for the ones who get elected, because they seem to have abandoned all of the the principles I would associate with my party of choice, but as a registered Republican, I GIVE A RAT'S ASS.

I want a government that does the bare minimum required to ensure that every American has the opportunity to be prosperous.  That's right, the bare minimum, BUT I WANT THEM TO DO IT.

Lower taxes, a strong military that protects our way of life, a free market, a reasonable energy policy.  You know, the little things.

Even though the Republicans have been stupidly irresponsible during the last 8 years, I cannot get behind putting in a radical left wing communist (Marxist actually, but that's putting too fine a point on it for most people) in office.  Obama is a proven believer in redistribution of wealth, higher taxes, and putting 'world' citizenry above his commitment to American sovereignty.  These facts are indisputable.  It's just sad that 'americans' are willing to let the Democrats completely destroy this great country in the name of retaliating for 8 years of Bush.

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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 1:25am
 
This lunatic idea that Democrats have been responsible for much of anything since they have the majority is absurd. Everything they come up with that might do some good faces the standard Bush veto and gets set aside because of the lack of veto proof majorities....much to the delight of the the obstructor in chief.

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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 1:43am
 
if you read my comment Charlie, I said the Republicans were stupidly irresponsible for the last 8 years, so I hope it's clear I don't singularly blame the Democrats for the state we're in.
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 8:05am
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 1st, 2008 at 11:24pm:
I never, ever enter into any political debate but I DO have a question....

Does anyone really think that Democrat or Republican...either one of them....actually gives a rats ass about the average guy/gal  out there working his/her  ass off.???  They care only about themselves no matter which party the ascribe to.




 


Our people in congress truely lost touch with the fact that we pay them to represent us.  They have entitled themselves to our riches and instead of representing us they manipulate us.  Who in gods name gets to give themselves a raise?  (owners of their own buisness are an exception)  The only way the people of this nation can regain control of their nation is to vote a critical mass OUT of office so that the incoming congress can't learn the ways of the past congress and the old ones left would be to afraid to teach the new ones.  What is the critical mass?  I would guess it would be close to 80% at this point.

Charlie, you do realize that the Dem's are just as, if not more guilty of taking away your liberties and freedoms as the Repub's.  The difference is the Repubs do it in the name of security, the Dems do it in the name of "benifit of society".  You look at the history of the 9th court of apeals and then look at the decision they upheld in my header post and tell me that the Dems truely want you to be free.  Far from it.  They want the citizens to be totaly dependant upon government so control lies with congress, not the people.

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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 11:54am
 
Me, I'm ACTIVELY campaigning AGAINST anyone who's in OFFICE now.....

And I think it's about time everyone quit trying to place BLAME on everyone else and work toward a SOLUTION for getting out of the mess we're in. The fact is we've got a PROBLEM - regarless of who's fault it is -- placing blame will NOT solve it -- we NEED a SOLUTION! So far I haven't heard one from ANYONE!! Only more blame and name calling from ALL sides...

I'm sick of all of 'em....

Where's Kinky Friedman when you need a THIRD PARTY?

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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 12:09pm
 
BarbaraD wrote on Aug 2nd, 2008 at 11:54am:
we NEED a SOLUTION! So far I haven't heard one from ANYONE!!

Revolution?
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Reply #14 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 12:21pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 1st, 2008 at 11:24pm:
I never, ever enter into any political debate but I DO have a question....

Does anyone really think that Democrat or Republican...either one of them....actually gives a rats ass about the average guy/gal  out there working his/her  ass off.???  They care only about themselves no matter which party the ascribe to.




   

well they care about the major corporations that contribute to their campaigns.
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Reply #15 - Aug 2nd, 2008 at 7:07pm
 
From Fubar: Quote:
if you read my comment Charlie, I said the Republicans were stupidly irresponsible for the last 8 years, so I hope it's clear I don't singularly blame the Democrats for the state we're in.


That was a general comment Fub. It's in response to dozens of posts about the idea that Democrats are the ones getting in the way of doing good for the country. Little if anything gets by when there is a constant veto threat.

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Charlie, you do realize that the Dem's are just as, if not more guilty of taking away your liberties and freedoms as the Repub's.  The difference is the Repubs do it in the name of security, the Dems do it in the name of "benifit of society".  You look at the history of the 9th court of apeals and then look at the decision they upheld in my header post and tell me that the Dems truely want you to be free.  Far from it.  They want the citizens to be totaly dependant upon government so control lies with congress, not the people.


I'll take the Democrats over the GOP any time for protecting my right to read and do what I like. It's the Republicans since 2000 that were caught running fake news conferences, censoring at levels not seen since WWII, and claiming that the Executive branch is immune to Congressional oversight. No matter who is elected, he will have to get out the Scotch Tape and try to patch up what's left of the Constitution and things like Justice and the FDA that have been planted with idiot friends, incompetents and or political hacks.....not to mention those that have close ties to the very businesses that they are supposed to keep track of.  

Democrats aren't scary unless you make so much money that you have to do your banking in Aruba. When I was a kid, Republicans were close to Ron Paul in their thinking; today they pretend to be guardians of the faithful and peer in bedroom windows......so long as it gets them elected. Of course there's always torture "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques," God what horror and embarrassment for the country. There isn't much left of us when we behave like our enemies.

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Reply #16 - Aug 3rd, 2008 at 6:41am
 
Charlie,

I really think both parties have lost touch with the Constitution.  Back in the pre-PAC days both sides could come together for the good of the country and the citizens, now they both hold the hands of the PAC's.  Congress has become so polarized that any good one side proposes, the other paints as very bad.

With respect to torture; Do you think waterboarding and terrorists on a leash compares to what has taken place in the past???  Remember Viet Nam?  They used to shoot prisoners in the legs to try and get them to talk.  One good form of interrigation was to take two prisoners up in a chopper.  They would start asking questions.  If there was no response they would throw one guy out and the secong one would sing like there was no tomorrow.  This was during the Johnson admin.  

Thank god the US congress didn't use WWll for their own agenda.  We and all of Europe would be speaking German right now. Cheesy

Both parties have lost touch because they have become isolated from the everyday life of the people they were elected to serve.  Elect them out of office and get fresh reps. in there.  ALL OF THEM!

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Reply #17 - Aug 3rd, 2008 at 7:21am
 
Paul98 wrote on Aug 3rd, 2008 at 6:41am:
Both parties have lost touch because they have become isolated from the everyday life of the people they were elected to serve.  Elect them out of office and get fresh reps. in there.  ALL OF THEM!

-P.

Paul you are right on this one, but to UNELECT these people it would take the PEOPLE doing it and sadly, the people just don't have the balls to do it.

Until we get some common sense back in DC and some PACs out of DC and career politicians OUT, we're just gonna be complaining. Maybe someday the people will get enough and get out and vote all the "old guard" out and we can start over with new faces, but .... then I wake up and it's the same old hype....

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Reply #18 - Aug 3rd, 2008 at 7:27pm
 
BarbaraD wrote on Aug 3rd, 2008 at 7:21am:
Maybe someday the people will get enough and get out and vote all the "old guard" out and we can start over with new faces, but .... then I wake up and it's the same old hype....

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Exactly.  This same crap was played out just 2 and 4 years ago.  Its the same ol hype about 'change'.  You know....'real change'.  Remember the first 100 days hype and all that BS early last year?
There are some politicians on both sides of the aisle that I like, but I do not like either party.



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Reply #19 - Aug 4th, 2008 at 1:05am
 
America doesn't torture......hasn't anyway. Our founders would be sickened to learn of it. I still have a hard time believing it. It just ain't American. Bulldozing Gitmo would be a start.

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Reply #20 - Aug 4th, 2008 at 1:14am
 
Linda,

Good on you...  But don't sugar coat it...  Both parties have shit the bed with respect to honoring their oaths of office and remembering who they really work for when they were elected and took office.  IMHO, the time has come where we need to push for term limits for members of the House and Senate as well as a total ban on earmarks.

The current majority liberal leadership of the House and Senate are little more than power hungry pinko liberal hippie dopers from the 60's. Despite all the promises made prior to their election, they turn out the lights on debate in order to ensure a continued and unopposed push of their own socialist agenda... but then liberalism is a mental disorder, so the folks that voted for them should have known better.

Unfortunately, the obamanoids pulling the strings on their self anointed marionette messiah who sounds good, but can't speak a complete Marxist sentence without a teleprompter, have mesmerized the democratic voters with a gucci and shallow promo of change.  And that change will make Nikita Khrushchev's promise to have communism take over the US without a shot being fired very prophetic and so terribly true.

As compassionate members of this site who reach out to help fellow sufferers time and time again, remember one thing about this false prophet...

He has consistently voted in favor of legislation that permits a butcher to reach into a woman's womb, grab an unborn child by the feet and rip it far enough out of the mother's body to expose its neck in order to plunge surgical scissors into the base of the child's skull and sever the spinal cord to prevent it from taking a breath and be considered a "Live Birth."  Think about that when you hear the word "change" come from his lips.

This jerk is so weak and unexperienced it's pathetic...  Think about the following scenario when the string pullers are not present:  The NMCC calls the White House to convene a Missile Conference...  "Mr. President, there are confirmed indications of multiple missile launches targeting Washington DC, New York, LA, and San Francisco....  What retaliatory option do you choose?"

"Ah... ah ah ah...  Let me put it this way...  er... er... er, ah ah ah..." 

If you find this scenario hard to believe, listen to and watch the You Tube videos of his latest "Town Hall" meeting in Cedar Rapids... Please note that all the videos are posted by "BarackObamadotcom" and have been carefully edited to omitted the Q&A part of the meeting where he fell on his face unable to utter a complete and intelligible sentence when asked questions of substance.  I watched it live…

Think about that long and hard as well before you vote...  Think also about the gent in Oregon with terminal prostate cancer and the fact that the state sponsored medical insurance will not give him the very expensive drugs that would help him maintain a reasonable quality of life for the year or two he has left, but will fund doctor assisted suicide…  Government can only ration…

On the other side of the isle, too many of the minority republicans have lost their conservative moral rudders so have become as useless as tits on a boar hog.

Yes, John McCain has his problems, but I know where he came from, where he was, where he is now, and where I think he can lead us...  I can't say that for the self anointed Marxist messiah dancing to the pull of strings at the behest of people like George Soros...

So what do we do? 

Talking about the problems and potential solutions in a forum like this is good, but that dog won't hunt if that's all the farther we go... 

We all need to think long and hard about all the politicians we intend to vote for in the next and subsequent elections and why.  We need to be as critical of them as we are of our own convictions to ensure the decisions we make on who to vote for are consistent, supportable, and in keeping with our own values.

This is America.  Our form of government isn't perfect, but it is so much better than the alternatives.  Let's side with the millions of Americans who have given their lives defending our Constitution and way of life to keep it that way.  Think!



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Reply #21 - Aug 6th, 2008 at 4:50pm
 
Grin

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job
 of spending the money I earn than I would.

 I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is
 offended by it.


 I'm voting Democrat because, when we pull out of Iraq, I know that the bad
 guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good
 people.


 I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it
 will rain on Friday  can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in
 fifty or a hundred years if I don't start driving a Prius.


 I am voting Democrat because I know we don't need to develop American
 energy resources as long as I properly inflate my tires.


 I am voting Democrat because I believe that business profits are
 unnecessary.  Businesses only need to break even and give the rest to the
 government for redistribution to deserving people who are entitled to it.


 I'm voting Democrat because I believe five elite liberal judges should
 rewrite the Constitution to meet international standards and to implement
 "laws" that could never get past American voters.


 I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists come over
 here, I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them with.


 I'm voting Democrat because I believe "marriage" is whatever anyone wants
 it to be except for those who belong to some right-wing religious sect.


 I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 8% on a
 gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of
 gas at 20% isn't.

 Makes ya wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn't it?


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Reply #22 - Aug 6th, 2008 at 4:59pm
 
EXCELLENT post dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #23 - Aug 6th, 2008 at 5:01pm
 
tuck wrote on Aug 6th, 2008 at 4:59pm:
EXCELLENT post dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I didnt write it, man....I just presented it...LOL  Wink
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Reply #24 - Aug 6th, 2008 at 5:24pm
 
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I didnt write it, man....I just presented it...

I've got a parrot that's just as well trained. Wink
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