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Reply #25 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 12:41am

CostaRicaKris wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 11:58pm:

Kirk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 10:46am:

CostaRicaKris wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 12:42am:

Read my entire post Kirk.

"If you don't want the whole world to know about it - don't put it on the internet. Period."

That being said... my MySpace setting is at "Private", so unless you know a way around it, let my know if you'd like to be added.

OK Kris, I'll try this one more time. Your privacy isn't. Yes I know several ways around it. But I wouldn't, its a matter of ethics. You don't have to post your info to the web. You hooked your PC up to it for all the network to see. And all the scrip kiddies to read and take over. You gave it up when you joined a social engineering site. You weren't very safe before. But you had security through obscurity. You no longer have that.
Your privacy settings mean nothing to a script kiddy ankle biter bot herder with a piece warez and 15 seconds on his hands. To frame it in terms from your part of the world. You would be a drive by shooting.
Please read my post about getting a domain. Then take a look at Artonio7 (Tony's) and jonny's websites. Tony is a very talented man and has a very nice website. You can even download a CH calender there to track your attacks. Jonny's isn't bad. But he doesn't know much about computers, and still has problems with finding the power switch. .
If I haven't made my point about your security. Fine, it is your machine, and your data.

Smiley

First of all Kirk - Why do you you care if I have a MySpace account?

Second - I have noticed no changes in anything since I got one. But after I bought a house, the whole world knew about that. I even had people knocking at my door trying to sell me alarm systems and life insurance.

Third, Tony is one of my friends on MySpace

Kris,
Kirk doesn't care if you have a MySpace account. The point he is trying to make is that even though you have your account set to private, it's not really private. Meaning that anyone with a little know how can get into your account, and get your info. Also, he was trying to make the point that just having the account on MySpace opens you up to whatever is on the web, even though you have your account set to private.

Just being online opens you up to a lot of things, people are constantly scanning computers, and waiting for a response from them, to break in. Ours are scanned constantly, with people trying to break in. We can see it on our screen with a program we run.

I think the point is, there is no privacy on the internet. Even if your accounts are set to private. It means something to the user, but not to the hacker.

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Reply #26 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 1:31am

purpleydog wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 12:41am:

CostaRicaKris wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 11:58pm:

Kirk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 10:46am:

CostaRicaKris wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 12:42am:

Read my entire post Kirk.

"If you don't want the whole world to know about it - don't put it on the internet. Period."

That being said... my MySpace setting is at "Private", so unless you know a way around it, let my know if you'd like to be added.

OK Kris, I'll try this one more time. Your privacy isn't. Yes I know several ways around it. But I wouldn't, its a matter of ethics. You don't have to post your info to the web. You hooked your PC up to it for all the network to see. And all the scrip kiddies to read and take over. You gave it up when you joined a social engineering site. You weren't very safe before. But you had security through obscurity. You no longer have that.
Your privacy settings mean nothing to a script kiddy ankle biter bot herder with a piece warez and 15 seconds on his hands. To frame it in terms from your part of the world. You would be a drive by shooting.
Please read my post about getting a domain. Then take a look at Artonio7 (Tony's) and jonny's websites. Tony is a very talented man and has a very nice website. You can even download a CH calender there to track your attacks. Jonny's isn't bad. But he doesn't know much about computers, and still has problems with finding the power switch. .
If I haven't made my point about your security. Fine, it is your machine, and your data.

Smiley

First of all Kirk - Why do you you care if I have a MySpace account?

Second - I have noticed no changes in anything since I got one. But after I bought a house, the whole world knew about that. I even had people knocking at my door trying to sell me alarm systems and life insurance.

Third, Tony is one of my friends on MySpace

Kris,
Kirk doesn't care if you have a MySpace account. The point he is trying to make is that even though you have your account set to private, it's not really private. Meaning that anyone with a little know how can get into your account, and get your info. Also, he was trying to make the point that just having the account on MySpace opens you up to whatever is on the web, even though you have your account set to private.

Just being online opens you up to a lot of things, people are constantly scanning computers, and waiting for a response from them, to break in. Ours are scanned constantly, with people trying to break in. We can see it on our screen with a program we run.

I think the point is, there is no privacy on the internet. Even if your accounts are set to private. It means something to the user, but not to the hacker.

Please refer back to the very first thing I said:

"If you don't want the whole world to know about it - don't put it on the internet. Period."

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Reply #27 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 1:33am

How about this.

If you don't want a MySpace account... don't get one.

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Brew Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #28 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 8:13am Or, how about this - "If you don't want the whole world to potentially know about everything that's on your hard disk, don't get a myspace account."
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Reply #29 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 9:14am

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Or, how about this - "If you don't want the whole world to potentially know about everything that's on your hard disk, don't get a myspace account."

And if you don't want your identity potentially stolen, don't shop with a credit or debit card.
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #30 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 9:55am Are we all done now?
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Brew Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #31 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 10:21am Melissa wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 9:55am: Are we all done now? I don't know. Are we?
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #32 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 10:29am Quote: Melissa wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 9:55am: Are we all done now? I don't know. Are we? Yes, we are.
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Reply #33 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 11:28am

Oh what a storm in a teacup!

Just posting here has solicited junk mail for me, using hotmail, ebay, all sorts.

I do shop online when it suits me and I'm aware of the risks involved. I'm also aware of the dangers of having your card cloned in a restaurant.

I like myspace, its fun. I know I can get screwed there but it's a chance I'm willing to take. I do however appreciate being warned of the dangers. I also run across the road at times knowing if I trip I'm going to be squished like a bug.

Not everything I do is sensible, it is however my choice and for the most part, a considered choice.

God gave us free will - its our inalienable right to use it.

My point is, we have the right to make our own choices. Whether others find them stupid or not, they are our right to make. Making them without being aware of potential dangers and weighing up the pro's and con's is foolhardy though so I appreciate the advice contained in this thread and the protection from harm that is the intention of those offering advice. This family RULES!!

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Brew Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #34 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 11:44am Informed choice is the key. It's why we don't let little kids run across the road - they have no clue what it means to be squished like a bug.
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LeLimey Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #35 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 12:04pm Quote: It's why we don't let little kids run across the road - they have no clue what it means to be squished like a bug. Betcha wouldn't have said that to Osama Bin Laden's mum Brewsie! I'm only teasing you, you know that!
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Brew Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #36 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 12:46pm And of course we have no clue what 3-year-old Osama Baby Laden will grow up to be, so we still protect him from the grille of an oncoming truck. (Modified to add: Helen, we're not supposed to be talking about this anymore.)
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Reply #37 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 6:00pm

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First of all Kirk - Why do you you care if I have a MySpace account?

Second - I have noticed no changes in anything since I got one. But after I bought a house, the whole world knew about that. I even had people knocking at my door trying to sell me alarm systems and life insurance.

Third, Tony is one of my friends on MySpace

First of all. Why do I care? Well I don't like to see members of the CH family being taken for suckers. And every now and then, I'm foolish enough to say something I hope will help them. I'm sorry that my ability to communicate the principles, and protocols involved to you failed. Please find an adult to read my posts, and have them explain them to you in simple enough terms for you to understand. I'm very sorry that I failed to do so.
Second: You wouldn't be able to tell if your machine has been Zombied. Neither your A/V, nor your security suite would detect it. You're just a user, you have no way to tell if you have been compromised. As for the example of your house, and the real estate vultures. You're comparing Apples and Oranges. The one has no relationship with the other.
Third: Great, Tony is a wonderful soul. His pacemaker even runs on Linux. Which I find very........heartwarming. He is a very talented, warm person. Anyone would be delighted to be counted as one of his friends. But the fact that he is on your MySpace friends list, has nothing to do with the discussion.
Anyway thats the last I have to say on the matter. Please be well.

Smiley

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Reply #38 - Aug 13^th, 2008 at 11:30pm

I'm done.

I'm done with this thread. I'm done with this board. I know it's the Prednisone/Topomax that's partly to blame, but I really don't want to be a part of this place anymore.

PF wishs all

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Reply #39 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 12:19am

Kris, blame the Topomax or Pred if you want to, but Most of us know that Kirk was just trying to help explain some things. Kirk has forgotten more things about the internet and computers than I ever knew to begin with. I know in my hearty he was just trying to help.

No need to leave this place because of this. Calm down, take a deep breath and move on to other things.

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Kimmie CH.com Veteran Offline OW!! Posts: 187 US Gender:	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #40 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 10:24am Don't leave because someone got you upset. Hell, I'd have been gone a long time ago BUT- this site is supportive by most. Heck- I've gotten my ass waxed on and waxed off when my name was KimberlyAnn.... <-----Where'd my rep boxes go????
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Reply #41 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 10:50am

Kimmie wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 10:24am:

Don't leave because someone got you upset. Hell, I'd have been gone a long time ago Smiley

BUT- this site is supportive by most. Heck- I've gotten my ass waxed on and waxed off when my name was KimberlyAnn....

<-----Where'd my rep boxes go????

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thebbz Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #43 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 12:23pm Quote: Oh what a storm in a teacup! BBWWHHAAAAAA,,haaaaahaaa. I dont have a myspace account, I have one here. thats enough. Simma down now. LYG's all of ya. thebb
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Reply #44 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 1:41pm

Sometimes I wonder what planet we all come from...that something as simple as someone stating that they have a MY Space can get members all crazy... Don't any of you know that this message board is as guilty as anyother site for adding cookies and giving ya junk... Hasn't anyone ever noticed that when you type something the page is geared towards your interests... ie... mine has a thing on the bottom about the troops. Mine also has several ads about migraine etc. It knows I have kids in the service. It knows I have migraine... did you think it was a coincidence that the ads on these pages are all about your interests. The owners get a cut (sometimes pennies but money none the less) every time someone clicks off and spends money. That is what makes the internet go around.

I think its funny that I haven't been here for a while and come back to see the family still arguing about trivial stuff... sheesh...its the internet. Its Big Brother whether you have privacy settings or not whether you delete or not. Texts IM's PM's are not private either... they can be resurrected with a court order...

Ree whose going back to her corner where she should have stayed.
Be good out there and you won't have anything to worry about.

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Reply #45 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 1:42pm

I had 4 my space accounts for about 4 years. I was the school resource officer for our community and I learned kids aren't so bright. They'd plan their stupid crimes on my space, then post pics of their rave parties, their tagging and various assorted vandalisms. Made convictions SOOO much easier! I was a skater boy on 3 of them, and perish the thought, a 15 year old girl on one. My kids helped me....a lot! Grin

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Brew Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #47 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 2:40pm Guiseppi wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 1:42pm: I was a skater boy on 3 of them, and perish the thought, a 15 year old girl on one. A very BUTCH 15 year old girl, but a 15 year old girl nonetheless.
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Brew Ex Member	Re: MYSPACE??? Reply #48 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 2:43pm Ree wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 1:41pm: I think its funny that I haven't been here for a while and come back to see the family still arguing about trivial stuff... Did you honestly think this was ever going to change? Hasn't arguing about trivial stuff been around since, oh, I don't know, the pleistocene era?
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Reply #49 - Aug 14^th, 2008 at 2:49pm

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Kimmie wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 10:24am:

Don't leave because someone got you upset. Hell, I'd have been gone a long time ago Smiley

BUT- this site is supportive by most. Heck- I've gotten my ass waxed on and waxed off when my name was KimberlyAnn....

<-----Where'd my rep boxes go????

Sorry, you can't alter your own reputation. You'll see everybody else's - not your own.

Ohhhhhhh!!...well I'm not doing myself...lmao...or I'd be plum stocked!!

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