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ClusterChuck

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Proverbial bad penny ...
Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:06am

OK, got a questionf fer all y'all ...

The other day, when I got back to my HQ building, after going out for something, as I passed one of the offices, in the executive wing, I told the girl that I was like the proverbial bad penny, and was back.

She looked confused, and I asked her why, and she said that she did not know what I meant by that statement. I asked her if she had ever heard of the saying: "Like a bad penny, it always comes back."

She had never heard that saying before.

That got me to thinking, how many HAVE heard of it? Is it my age, or the local where I ~~grew up~~ lived my early life (I refuse to grow up) that I know of that phrase?

The gal that said she never heard of it, is 33 years old, and lived her life, so far, here in North Carolina.

I have no idea where the phrase comes from, or exactly what it means, but it seems I have always known of the saying. Is it age or location related?

Are there others that have never heard of it?

Chuck

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gizmo CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 522 Germany Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #1 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:20am > "Like a bad penny, it always comes back." I've heard of it and since I'm German I doubt it actually has to do with the location. Though I refuse to think it is age related - I'm not an old fart like you Oliver
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pubgirl CH.com Hall of Famer Offline The next person who calls it a migraine eats teeth Posts: 693 x0\|London\|United_Kingdom\|\|0\|0\| Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #2 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:24am Chuck I know it too but I'm not young!. I think it is British in origin like lots of weird sayings are Something to do with coin forgery????? i.e. if you counterfeit a coin it will come back to you W
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Brew Ex Member	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #3 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:54am Bad Penny. Bad, bad Penny. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Ray CH.com Alumnus Offline Ray Posts: 1996 Columbus, Ohio Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #4 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 8:19am Brew, you're Baaad! I knew it growing up in the 60's... Ray
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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #5 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 8:26am She might've recognized the Poltergiest II catch phrase, "they're baaaaack" Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or A bad penny always turns up Our mistakes return to haunt us; also, nasty people have a way of reappearing.
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #6 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 8:39am I have never heard that before.
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Agostino Leyre CH.com Sponsor Offline "Hit like a phillips head into my brain." Posts: 3803 Madison WI USA Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #7 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 8:44am Yep, heard it, but from my Grandma when I was growing up.
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midwestbeth Ex Member	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #8 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 8:57am I've heard it, but I hang out with old people......
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ClusterChuck

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Re: Proverbial bad penny ...
Reply #9 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:16am

I did a Google search and found the following information:

Quote:

Proverbs:
A bad penny always turns up

The proverb, also used allusively in simile and metaphor (see quot. 1766), refers to the predictable, and usually unwelcome, return of a disreputable or prodigal person after some absence.

Like a bad penny it returnd, to me again.
[1766 A. Adams in L. H. Butterfield et al. Adams Family Correspondence (1963) I. 55]

Bring back Darsie? little doubt of that—the bad shilling is sure enough to come back again.
[1824 Scott Redgauntlet II. ii.]

Just like as not he'll be coming back one of these days, when he's least wanted. A bad penny is sure to return.
[1884 R. H. Thorpe Fenton Family iii.]

Who's dead, when and what did he die of? Turn up like a bad penny.
[1922 Joyce Ulysses 149]

‘I miss Bart.’ ‘Oh, a bad penny always turns up again.’
[1941 A. Updegraff Hills look Down vi.]

‘Stop worrying. The bad pennies always turn up.’ ‘Oh, Adrian, I don't think she's a bad penny, not really.’
[1979 G. Mitchell Mudflats of Dead iii.]

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It looks like it has been around even longer than BarbaraD ... And that is a LONG time!

Chuck

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Re: Proverbial bad penny ...
Reply #10 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:05am

I resemble that OLD remark Chuckles...... (and will get you back for it!)

I'm with you on this one -- WHERE THE HELL HAVE THESE KIDS BEEN ALL THEIR LIVES????

One of my friends (a teacher) was talking to some cheerleader and they were chanting "Two Bits, Four Bits...." She asked them if they knew what 2 bits was? They looked at her like she'd just stepped off a space ship. She got out her bag of quarters and tried to EXPLAIN it to them - they DIDN'T CARE!

But the older I get the more blank stares I get when I pop out with something I think is perfectly normal (things I've heard and said all my life). These kids just remind me of Ned and the First Reader (and I'll bet no one under 50 has a clue what that one means either Huh

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Oh well, back to counting my dust-bunnies.....

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Reply #12 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:32am

BarbaraD wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:05am:

One of my friends (a teacher) was talking to some cheerleader and they were chanting "Two Bits, Four Bits...." She asked them if they knew what 2 bits was? They looked at her like she'd just stepped off a space ship. She got out her bag of quarters and tried to EXPLAIN it to them - they DIDN'T CARE!

But the older I get the more blank stares I get when I pop out with something I think is perfectly normal (things I've heard and said all my life). These kids just remind me of Ned and the First Reader (and I'll bet no one under 50 has a clue what that one means either Huh

You say that as if it's a bad thing....

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Agostino Leyre CH.com Sponsor Offline "Hit like a phillips head into my brain." Posts: 3803 Madison WI USA Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #13 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:50am Most folks don't know what a fortnight is either.
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ClusterChuck CH.com Alumnus Offline The BEAST rises again, and again, and again, and . Posts: 5394 Greenville, North Carolina Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #14 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 11:59am Do you also realize that most of the kids out there have no idea what it is to actually "DIAL" a phone number?!?!
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kevmd CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Who needs a hypothalamus anyway? Posts: 524 x0\|philadelphia\|USA\|\|0\|0\|PA,Pennsylvania Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 12:26pm I see a common thread. Most of you who have heard of it were around when Lincoln was president
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ClusterChuck CH.com Alumnus Offline The BEAST rises again, and again, and again, and . Posts: 5394 Greenville, North Carolina Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #16 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 1:24pm kevmd wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 12:26pm: Most of you who have heard of it were around when Lincoln was president But I was SO much younger when that youngun got elected! I was only 736 years old that year ...
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Em CH.com Alumnus Offline I wanna go... Posts: 830 St Peter Port, Guernsey. Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #17 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 1:56pm I've heard of the saying before. Not sure from where though... And fortnight is still a commonly used term here in the UK.
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Reply #18 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 2:10pm

C'mon, you've never had a bad penny? Like, the ones that are all bent up or painted, whatever. As a shopkeeper, I have seen things like these come back day after day, and no matter who you try to give them to as change, the same person comes back with it a couple days later and guess what they use to pay? The bad penny.

Actually, apart from quarters, I rarely bought change and I think the same change was floating around in my place for 15 years... out one day, back the next.

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jimmers Ex Member	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #19 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:12pm Chuck, You were probably the waiter at the "Last Supper" Send me all of your bad pennies everyone! I'll take em! Miserly Jimmers
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Re: Proverbial bad penny ...
Reply #20 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:51pm

I suppose it's one of those things that will pop up in nostalgia books written by our grandchildren recalling those funny old boomers.

My latest experience was at coffee shop....not Starbucks....After forking over $1.45 for a cup.....cheap for designer coffee these days, I told her that when I was a kid, coffee was a dime with a free refill. If you wanted a doughnut with it, it was a quarter. She probably thought I escaped from a home somewhere. On the way home you could stop and fill up for twenty six cents a gallon

God I'm old.

Charlie

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BarbaraD CH.com Alumnus Offline Hugs to ya Posts: 8333 Douglasville, TX Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #21 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 6:04am And I'll bet you didn't take no WOODEN NICKLES either did ya? Hugs BD
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Re: Proverbial bad penny ...
Reply #22 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 8:24am

Seeing as I have a statistical sample of youth at my disposal I took a poll.

My six older kids (27, 25, 24, 22, 19 and 17) all report they've heard the saying. Say they heard it from their Grandfather who lived with us for over 20 years.

He passed away in 2005 and suffered from Dementia so, mentally, he wasn't really here from say 2003.

I asked my younger kids (10, 9, 7, 5) and they all looked at me like I had three heads. "How can a penny be bad? It's metal" said one. So apparently Grampa hadn't used that phrase in quite some time.

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Re: Proverbial bad penny ...
Reply #23 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 10:07am

Maybe my NEXT book will be "Old Sayings that Have Gone By the Wayside" -- Ya'll send me your old sayings and I'll see what I can do...

My grandson is always coming up with "excuses" for "why" he did things. I told him one day to just tell me, "Aunt Bessie's cow died" - that would work about as good as any other excuse and make about as much sense. Now everytime he starts to tell me "why", he just takes a breath and says, "Granny, Aunt Bessie's cow died!" I explained to him that excuses are like rocking chairs - they give you something to do, but don't get you anywhere... his MOTHER had never heard that one (of course his MOTHER has never heard a lot of things!!!)

Ok, here's my THEORY -- Kids need to spend a LOT more time with their OLDER grandparents..... They're missing OUT on too much HISTORY!!!

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ClusterChuck CH.com Alumnus Offline The BEAST rises again, and again, and again, and . Posts: 5394 Greenville, North Carolina Gender:	Re: Proverbial bad penny ... Reply #24 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 10:16am Barb, tell him the REAL comment about excuses: Excuses are like a$$holes. Everyone has them, and they all stink."
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