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Reply #26 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:29pm

It was a good move. After the huge press from Obama's speech....that will be rerun for the next 400 years....McCain took the wind out of his sails for a time. You have to give her credit for nixing Ted Steven's bridge to nowhere too. It doesn't hurt that she's big on the NRA....but then I can't imagine many from the NRA voting Democratic. The NRA has become as much a conservative political organization as well as guarders of the 2nd Ammendment.

She could be his daughter.

Charlie

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George CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Black-Billed Magpie Posts: 8126 Boise, Idaho USA Gender:	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #27 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:34pm Kevin_M wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 12:29pm: As a former runner-up to Miss Alaska, should the occasion arise she is experienced at being prepared to step into a top role. Very droll, my friend. Best, George
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Brew Ex Member	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #28 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 9:43pm Quote: Here you go Johnny. Enjoy! Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek. (And it's Jonny, without an "h.")
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(And it's Jonny, without an "h.")

Thank you, Brew!

Suck this, Icedude......"The one"?....LMMMFAO!!! Grin

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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #30 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:03pm It will be an interesting week and it kills me that after getting rid of all but the very basic cable, I don't see the political lunacy from CNN, FOX and others. Rats. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Thank God for the biased press though. Charlie
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Brew Ex Member	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #31 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:09pm Charlie wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:03pm: Thank God for the biased press though. Ain't it the truth? If not for them, we'd have nothing to talk about here. Well, except for meds, and O2, and....
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Reply #32 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:10pm

Charlie wrote on Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:03pm:

It will be an interesting week and it kills me that after getting rid of all but the very basic cable, I don't see the political lunacy from CNN, FOX and others. Rats.

All is not lost, Charlie.....take all that tax money that you dont pay (that you are willing to vote we pay) and get broadband.....its that easy! Wink

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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #33 - Aug 29^th, 2008 at 10:31pm Not to worry. I won't know until October if I'll be able to by beer and porn on the state. In western NY, the average wait for a hearing is 669 days. Charlie
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Reply #34 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 1:41am

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Here you go Johnny. Enjoy! Smiley

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You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek.

(And it's Jonny, without an "h.")

Really? Which news source do you prefer? They are all saying the same thing. Inexperience...investigation...abuse of power...northern exposure...newborn child....set up for failure...

So which one? You choose...

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Reply #35 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 1:45am

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Here you go Johnny. Enjoy! Smiley

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You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek.

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Thank you, Brew!

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Oh come on! That one is really weak. I have seen you post better than that. Smiley

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Reply #36 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 2:06am

To answer the original question, yes I think it changes the dynamic of th election significantly.

Obama used to be my State Senator before going on to become my US Senator. I had no use for his communist leanings then, (I used the "c" word advisedly), and I have no use for them now.

I had planned to vote very reluctantly for McCain, but with Sarah Palin on the ticket I can vote enthusiastically, knowing that if something should happen to him we will have someone much more fiscally conservative to back him up. I also believe she will have a great deal of influence on our oil policy, and she is no friend of the oil companies.

Jerry

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Reply #37 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 6:39am

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Here you go Johnny. Enjoy! Smiley

Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

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You're kidding, right? Consider the source - Newsweek.

(And it's Jonny, without an "h.")

Really? Which news source do you prefer? They are all saying the same thing. Inexperience...investigation...abuse of power...northern exposure...newborn child....set up for failure...

So which one? You choose...

Not taking the bait. If given the choice between several different poisons, my choice is to starve to death.

You, sir, have obviously drunk deep of the media koolaid. You are the type with whom I cannot argue, nor you with me, so please save your breath. And have a nice day.

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Reply #38 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 12:10pm

If all the people who are talking "it is always the lesser of two evils" would actually find someone to vote for they like (yes it would take going to an independant to do it) somethings might change.

Until the US gov race isn't a rigged, 2 horse race, nothing is gonna change. As much as Dem and Reps fight, the truth is they both know either side cannot exist without the other, to the point where it colors what happens to the point of the affect being that they are in league with each other.

If EVREYONE who complained it is the lesser of two evils each year would vote indy, something would happen. But most do not, they pick the lesser of two evils and then most complain that somehow they are stuck with "evil".

Of course the answer is some weighted voting, where every voter is required to pick a certain % of candidates. Then people would hve some choices and there would need to be an interest in some 3rd parties.

Then maybe we would get a president that more people actually wanted as president than who didn't want them as president, for the first time in 30 some years!

But since the 2 main parties the rule our lives would be at risk, they would never make the changes - too bad for us.

Revoloution anyone?

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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #39 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 12:40pm I speak English only as a second language, and I'm doing my best to learn American, so will somebody please explain to me which is the lesser of two weevils. And does that make them gooder or badder.
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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #40 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 3:20pm It's true that Palin's selection has changed the dynamics of the election but not quite to the extent you right wing apologists would like. It takes a good part of the experience question off table. Biden now looks better. Still, with few exceptions, people vote for President rather than Veep. Charlie
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Reply #41 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 4:05pm

Charlie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 3:20pm:

It's true that Palin's selection has changed the dynamics of the election but not quite to the extent you right wing apologists would like. It takes a good part of the experience question off table. Biden now looks better. Still, with few exceptions, people vote for President rather than Veep.

Charlie

With McCain being 72, he would be the oldest ever elected. So, doesn't this election take exception, and make his Veep a good/bad(?) canidate for President?

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With McCain being 72, he would be the oldest ever elected. So, doesn't this election take exception, and make his Veep a good/bad(?) canidate for President?

It makes it good, because she is not a rich fuck that is looking to live on the dole. All we get is rich folks running this joint, its time for one of US to be included!

Like I said before, Sarah has run a city AND a state....Obama has ONLY run his mouth!

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Reply #44 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 8:46pm

Palin was chosen for her abortion postion. It's fine to have a positon but sad reason to choose a candidate. Democrats are guilty of it too. Palin is all right. McCain isn't stupid. She has a more open position on several other social issues. Hopefully the wackos on the far right will treat her with a little respect.

This antique approach has made serious national politics secondary. It works though. Republicans seem to be able to convince the evangelicals and the like that they are on their side. They do a good job electing some GOP types and are quickly forgotten until the next election.

Charlie

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monty CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 1056 The Swamp, Florida	Re: Well, well, well... Reply #45 - Aug 31^st, 2008 at 9:39am Charlie wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 8:46pm: Palin was chosen for her abortion postion. Yes, she thinks that abortion should be denied for the victims of rape and incest, and McCain thinks that women that were for Hillary will vote for her.
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Reply #46 - Aug 31^st, 2008 at 3:45pm

Wishful thinking on the social issues kids. Palin insures the pro-life thing for McCain as a lot of GOP women worry that he's not a true believer on some of these things. Choosing a woman that is for teaching creationism in schools brought it home for them.

There is no way that Hillary voters will vote for a man that voted against equal pay for equal work for women. "No way, no how, not McCain." PUMA died on the convention floor.

Not my words...but it's probably true that if McCain chose a man with her credentials, he would be laughed off the ticket. It was a bit of a cynical move and possibly dangerous. McCain actually weakened his change position with her choice. Now that he's a true believing Republican trying to insure his right wing, he lost his maverick credentials. Everybody likes her but she has to be careful that she doesn't fall into the Eagleton and Quayle trap. I wish this kind of thing were not true but it is.

Charlie

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superhawk2300 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 12:10pm:

If all the people who are talking "it is always the lesser of two evils" would actually find someone to vote for they like (yes it would take going to an independant to do it) somethings might change.

Until the US gov race isn't a rigged, 2 horse race, nothing is gonna change. As much as Dem and Reps fight, the truth is they both know either side cannot exist without the other, to the point where it colors what happens to the point of the affect being that they are in league with each other.

If EVREYONE who complained it is the lesser of two evils each year would vote indy, something would happen. But most do not, they pick the lesser of two evils and then most complain that somehow they are stuck with "evil".

Of course the answer is some weighted voting, where every voter is required to pick a certain % of candidates. Then people would hve some choices and there would need to be an interest in some 3rd parties.

Then maybe we would get a president that more people actually wanted as president than who didn't want them as president, for the first time in 30 some years!

But since the 2 main parties the rule our lives would be at risk, they would never make the changes - too bad for us.

Revoloution anyone?

Yep....

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