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2nd Quickie PC techy question of the day
Aug 31st, 2008 at 10:24am
 
I deleted my first question as am very proud of myself that I have deliberately nuked and rebuilt my son's hard drive succesfully this morning!!!!

Next question:
I am not being a cheap skate (although money IS tight at the moment as it is for everyone)

but is there a free piece of web-filtering software to safeguard a child who surfs on his own? (he does this all the time for school homework)

I know there are ones you pay for like Net Nanny but I use AVG free virus protection and it is just as good as expensive ones so wondered if the same existed for web filtering??

Thanks in advance!

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Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 10:33am
 
Have a look at Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register there are a few listed there, including free ones.
I have to admit that I haven't tried any of these.
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Reply #2 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 10:46am
 
Thank you for that Gizmo- will go and look

He's 9 now so not a baby any more but still very sweetly naive about sex etc so I'm happy he stays that way for a while!

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Reply #3 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 11:10am
 
If you use OpenDNS, you can make it so sites that are known malware or 'bad' stuff won't even load.  Basically, you use their name servers instead of your ISP's name servers.  You get a free account that let's you control what places on the internet that will resolve correctly.  This is the 'no software' solution.
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Reply #4 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 11:15am
 
Thanks Shawn

That sounds good as the trouble with software is that I know a lot of it isn't very sophisticated about what it blocks e.g. anything with the word "adult" or "sex" in it gets blocked which would actually not be very helpful for homework as perfectly useful and acceptable scientific sites will have those words in.

I read somewhere that there is a programme which blocks "flesh" photos but am again not sure if that is really practical.

Thanks for all your help guys- it was easier when he was younger as we were always with him when he used the PC, but that just can't be the case any more

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Reply #5 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 11:21am
 
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I read somewhere that there is a programme which blocks "flesh" photos but am again not sure if that is really practical.

Forget it. I had really funny results with it.
OpenDNS seems to be the easiest and best solution.

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Reply #6 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:22pm
 
Thank you so much for the help everyone. Cheesy Cheesy

I am WELL chuffed with myself as this kind of thing doesn't come easy to me although I know it isn't that hard for others. I have nuked son's PC hard drive and rebuilt it from scratch today. Reloaded all the software, set up wireless keyboards and mouse, connected to the Internet via wireless, installed virus protection, installed Macafee software and connected via OpenDNS as Shawn suggested so that he can't porn surf too easily etc etc etc

It has taken all day but I can't believe I did it! Husband was going to pay someone but that would have cost a fair bit we don't have

Shall stop being big headed now but I have just tried quite hard to access some porn sites and find porn photos and beyond a few slightly graphic medical photos of dodgy botty conditions Internet Explorer wouldn't show them!!!

Hurrah!

Thanks all

p.s. Have posted again as the FREE combination of AVG, Macafee and OpenDNS seems to be doing a very good job so far and this may help others.
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Reply #7 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:26pm
 
I suggest you use Firefox instead of IE since browsing with FF usually is a bit safer.

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Reply #8 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:32pm
 
What I can not understand is why you need three programs to do what McAfee can do. All of theese functions are in the McAfee internt security suite 6 program including a surf watch aplication.

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Reply #9 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:34pm
 
You have to pay for McAfee, the other solution is free.
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Reply #10 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:35pm
 
McAfee is the biggest virus of them all (possibly Norton is worse).  Glad it's working for you, but I have had to rebuild at least 20 machines that had McAfee installed.  It is a false sense of security.
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Reply #11 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:36pm
 
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McAfee is the biggest virus of them all (possibly Norton is worse).

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Reply #12 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:37pm
 
But you just said you have McAfee loaded. What a free version? and for what reason if you are using AVG?
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Reply #13 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 1:07pm
 
Oh bloody hell

I thought I was doing well!

I ditched Norton a LONG time ago because the blinking thing was turning my own PC into a lumbering monster working at a snails pace.

Now I'm confused again

Think I just added two belts and two pairs of braces to my son't system when I only needed one????
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Reply #14 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 1:13pm
 
I know this sounds nuts, but if you are using OpenDNS, and you have enough sense to NOT blindly run downloads from the internet, you will find it hard to get infected.  You avoid the 'drive'by' infections because OpenDNS won't let you go there.

If you are letting him download music of any kind from P2P sites (bit torrent, limelight, etc) you are screwed... just don't let that happen.
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Reply #15 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 1:17pm
 
Did you have lots of sense when you were 9 Shawn?

have told him endlessly not to download anything without asking me first, but he still does!

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Reply #16 - Sep 1st, 2008 at 11:49am
 
I set up my daughter on Dans Guardian. It blocked everything bad, and you can add specific sites like myspace for total blocking. Of course I doubt this will work on a Microsoft Windows operating system but if you someday switch your child to a more secure platform you will know there is  an option.

There maybe a Squid proxy based program for windows but you would have to search for it, my quick search turned up nothing.

It is good to see you on again Wendy.

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Reply #17 - Sep 1st, 2008 at 4:45pm
 
Smiley Paulie!

How are you?

Still wanting me off Windows I see- Told everyone nothing changes!

As I have always said, I am like Pooh where PC's are concerned i.e. a bear of VERY small brain, and since the only help I can get here in the UK is from other people with Windows, Windows it must remain

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Reply #18 - Sep 1st, 2008 at 9:47pm
 
Paul is right, a proxy using Dans Guardian is a pretty good defense.

However, I made this rule stick at my house... If you click on it, it better not be a virus, cause if Daddy has to rebuild your system, it's going to remain 'in the queue' for a few months.  One incident was enough to motivate them both to learn how to avoid getting infections.

I know it's a little Machiavellian, but sometimes you gotta play the trump card to make them learn.

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Reply #19 - Sep 1st, 2008 at 9:50pm
 
Shawn

That is a VERY good idea. He ruined his PC last time hence why I had to rebuild it, and it took me the whole summer holiday to find the time- so he will understand what having to wait means!

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Reply #20 - Sep 2nd, 2008 at 1:07am
 
  Shawn knows more about a MS Windows machine than I ever will. Since I left the PC side of the platform some time ago. But one thing I do know is that McCafee has not been able to pass the Quarterly Security Book test for the last year and a half. Actually they have just refused to be bothered with it. Saying it is unnecessary. I would remove it from your system.
  There are a couple of LUGs near where you live that would be happy to help you change from MS Windows, to another Windows enviroment. I like Fedora 9 Linux with KDE Windows on it. Looks really pretty. Sort of like Vista. Only faster, no virii, doesn't crash and has shed loads of kids games and educational games.
  OK enough with the Linux evangelizing. Sounds like you've done a bang up good job to me so far. If it turns out I can help with anything. Give a shout.

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Re: 2nd Quickie PC techy question of the day
Reply #21 - Sep 2nd, 2008 at 1:23am
 
pubgirl wrote on Aug 31st, 2008 at 10:46am:
but still very sweetly naive about sex etc


Give me his phone number, and I will ed-u-ma-cate him on all he needs to know ...

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Re: 2nd Quickie PC techy question of the day
Reply #22 - Sep 2nd, 2008 at 4:21pm
 
Kirk wrote on Sep 2nd, 2008 at 1:07am:

  There are a couple of LUGs near where you live that would be happy to help you change from MS Windows, to another Windows enviroment.


Geek speak interpretation:

LUG = Linux user group

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They help with installs during their meetings, some LUG's have an install fest to help many people at the same time. It is something to remember if Microsoft windows ever becomes unbearable.

Personally I think you should should stay with Microsoft windows. You will learn a lot more with a hard to maintain system than with one that is easy.


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Reply #23 - Sep 2nd, 2008 at 5:55pm
 
Thanks for the translation Paul
I don't have time to wee, never mind go to a LUGfest

I certainly have had to learn, with 3 PC's in the house and all Windows, and all having major problems at some point or another

and I can't pay someone to do things for me, even if I haven't got a clue (usually)

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