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Cold winter ahead?
Sep 2^nd, 2008 at 9:56pm

I have seen some indications of a cold winter to come and have posted about it but I read today that the solar cycle is at or nearing it's minimum and that as of today the solar flair activity is at its lowest for the longest period of time in 100 years. Basically it has been a spotless month on the sun.

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Could be we are in for some nasty winters for the next couple of years. I for one will get extra wood this year. Wink

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LeLimey Ex Member	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #1 - Sep 2^nd, 2008 at 10:08pm Hey Paul - want me to go and gun down a couple of son's of Beeches?
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Re: Cold winter ahead?
Reply #2 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 1:03am

Well, in addition to the solar minimum, there's also the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, which has entered its cool phase:

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So I'm guessing you're right.

However, there's also this:

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Hey Paul - want me to go and gun down a couple of son's of Beeches? Kiss

Which pretty much guarantees some warm times for you in the near future.

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Redd CH.com Sponsor Offline Posts: 8457 Stevens Point USA Wisconsin Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #3 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 7:35am I'm getting the feeling you are right about a very cold winter. Crazzy freaking weather here anyway too. High of 89 and desperate humidity yesterday, and the forcast today is only to reach 67? Drastic 20 degree difference. Wow what a strange summer it was.
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Brew Ex Member	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #4 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 7:56am And as a result, Algore would like for you to send him $500 as a way of putting salve on your guilty conscience.
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #5 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 10:37am And for no money at all, I'll send you nice recipes to salve your winter chills.
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Brew Ex Member	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #6 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 11:19am AussieBrian wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 10:37am: And for no money at all, I'll send you nice recipes to salve your winter chills. That is sooooo insensitive to the plight of....of....well, of whatever it is that Algore says it is.
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Jeannie CH.com Sponsor Offline Live, Laugh, Love.... Posts: 2333 St Louis, Missouri Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #7 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 11:23am Hey Brew, Is Al Gore your favorite person or what! ? You know..... He invented the internet. Without him, we wouldn't even know each other! LOL! Jeannie
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Reply #8 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 12:19pm

Jeannie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 11:23am:

Hey Brew,

Is Al Gore your favorite person or what! ? Grin

You know..... He invented the internet. Without him, we wouldn't even know each other! LOL!

Jeannie

When Algore says "jump," I say "how high?"

When he says "turn down your thermostat," I say "how low?"

Algore appears to be a god among men.

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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #9 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 1:05pm Quote: Algore would like for you to send him $500 as a way of putting salve on your guilty conscience No...it would be to help him pay his exorbitant electricity bill.
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #10 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 1:06pm Well, Jesse skinned and quartered a doe on the weekend (crop damage) that had an 3/4 to an INCH of backfat. I'd say that's a good indication.
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Re: Cold winter ahead?
Reply #11 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 1:12pm

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Jeannie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 11:23am:

Hey Brew,

Is Al Gore your favorite person or what! ? Grin

You know..... He invented the internet. Without him, we wouldn't even know each other! LOL!

Jeannie

When Algore says "jump," I say "how high?"

When he says "turn down your thermostat," I say "how low?"

Algore appears to be a god among men.

I think Al got his message across the Solarians. You will see that they listend to him and are conserving energy Grin

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Actualy the artical is interesting. Sun spot activity plays a huge role in Earth climate and has driven the major swings in long term weather.
-P.

Can we ship Al to the sun when it starts running out of hot gas?

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Brew Ex Member	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #12 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 2:12pm Quote: Sun spot activity plays a huge role in Earth climate and has driven the major swings in long term weather. Heretic! This is blasphemy! Prepare to meet your maker, and may God have mercy on your soul!
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Re: Cold winter ahead?
Reply #13 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:14pm

God...........here I was for the first few replies happy that this wasn't going to stumble into politics. As you know, I'm very tempted. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

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We've had the coolest August that I can remember. So far September is hotter than usual.

Charlie

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Reply #14 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:19pm

Charlie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:14pm:

[size=12]God...........here I was for the first few replies happy that this wasn't going to stumble into politics.

Charlie, I don't ever STUMBLE into politics. Mine was a very purposeful saunter.

Besides, Al can't really be taken seriously in the realm of politics anymore, can he? He's more of an Elmer Gantry type now.

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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #15 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:37pm Then, with all the fear and anxiety, George Bush is Lonesome Rhodes? Charlie
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echo CH.com Alumnus Offline Chronic and still alive --- I Win! Posts: 4544 Overland Park, KS Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #16 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:47pm Yep, it's going to be cold. I already have my February fat.
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Re: Cold winter ahead?
Reply #17 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:48pm

Charlie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 4:37pm:

Then, with all the fear and anxiety, George Bush is Lonesome Rhodes?

Charlie

Yep. Sure. He's just a Face In the Crowd.

Actually, it's totally fashionable to blame anything and everything on George Bush, so you can blame the upcoming hard winter on him as well. Personally I don't give the guy that much credit, but we're all different.

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Re: Cold winter ahead?
Reply #18 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 10:17pm

Another sign I saw last weekend...When going up north I noticed the red pines and many, many of them had the outer bark stripped from the upper portions of the tree. Squirrls do this for fodder and nesting. I have not seen this for many years. I remember the winters being very cold the years the bark was stripped.

Never could figure out why it was the red pine that they went for. I know the upper bark is sheet (~2 X 3") like and has the consistancy of cork. Perhaps it is good insulation. Is it edible to squirrls? Anybody know?

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Rolomatic Ex Member	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #19 - Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 11:34pm Hey Paul. Squirrels are in the rat family so their front teeth never stop growing. They need to chew all the time to keep from being impaled by them. Same thing happens with beavers. Rolo.
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Reply #20 - Sep 4^th, 2008 at 12:13am

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Actually, it's totally fashionable to blame anything and everything on George Bush, so you can blame the upcoming hard winter on him as well.

Way cool idea! Have to get that to Barack soon. Cool

We're just trying to approach the level of blame foisted on Bill Clinton by everyone in the Bush administration......when all too often things went so wrong.

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Brew Ex Member	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #21 - Sep 4^th, 2008 at 7:14am Quote: We're just trying to approach the level of blame foisted on Bill Clinton by everyone in the Bush administration......when all too often things went so wrong. Well, based on his recent approval ratings, I'd say it's starting to stick! Bravo Zulu!
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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #22 - Sep 4^th, 2008 at 9:32am What wonderful choices we have when it comes to elections. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or ..... Charlie
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Cold winter ahead? Reply #23 - Sep 4^th, 2008 at 10:29am Not much up on politics meself, but I'm starting on a chicken broth this morning so it'll be ready and waiting at dinner tomorrow evening.
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Re: Cold winter ahead?
Reply #24 - Sep 4^th, 2008 at 12:50pm

Paul98 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2008 at 1:12pm:

Sun spot activity plays a huge role in Earth climate change...

This looked similar to a comment in the article link posted.

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Svensmark, who recently published a book on the theory, says the relationship is a larger factor in climate change than greenhouse gases.

I would hope huge and larger weren't terms meant to imply certainty.

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'No Sun link' to climate change

...the contribution of humankind's greenhouse gas emissions has outweighed that of solar variability by a factor of about 13 to one.

According to Terry Sloan, the message coming from his research is simple.

"We tried to corroborate Svensmark's hypothesis, but we could not; as far as we can see, he has no reason to challenge the IPCC - the IPCC has got it right.

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More doubt on cosmic climate link

Research has thrown further doubt on the notion that cosmic rays are a major influence on the Earth's climate.

The idea that modern global warming is due to changes in cloudiness caused by solar influences on cosmic rays is popular with "climate sceptics".

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I have noticed the squirrels are gathering.

LOL, echo!

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