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Reply #25 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 3:07am
 
I saw the story on PBS about the incredible over-reaction by law enforcement. Looked like Germany, circa 1938. No rocking the boat here since 9-11, I guess. Our solution to terrorists is to act like the crackpots they represent.

The flag stories are gettinig tiresome. It's a non-issue except to bloggers that have nothing much to say other than trying to scare voters in the manner of Ann Coulter.

The incredible extent of our flag-flying dates back to the 1880s. I forget the organizations at the moment. I don't think it was the G . A. R. though It was quite a thing. One way you can spot old unidentifed photographs of hotels, buildings resorts, etc. as American or European, is that here, flags are shown in everywhere. You don't see this much in European photos. We are unique in this. I fly it on the appropriate holidays but I don't run around to my neighbors giving them a hard time or calling them unpatriotic if they don't. It's un-American to do so.

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Reply #26 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 10:16am
 
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Second, the right to free speech was not given or granted to me by anyone - it is an inalienable right.  Tell that to a soldier that had his legs blown off!


So you don't believe in the Declaration of Independence, which stated that we have inalienable rights?  You reject the ideas of Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers?
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Reply #27 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 11:32am
 
monty wrote on Sep 7th, 2008 at 10:16am:
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Second, the right to free speech was not given or granted to me by anyone - it is an inalienable right.  Tell that to a soldier that had his legs blown off!


So you don't believe in the Declaration of Independence, which stated that we have inalienable rights?  You reject the ideas of Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers?


Dude, your quoting skills are a bit fucked up to say the least....LOL  Kiss
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Reply #28 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 1:12pm
 
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AWESOME!!! An argument about a bunch of paper flags in the trash in a country where you have the right to burn the U.S. flag.  Really!!!  



More of our men and women are dead in Iraq than died on 9-11, upwards of a million people have lost their homes in the mortage scandle, some 700,000 Americans are in jail for smoking marijuana, 50 million people don't have health care, unemployment is through the roof, and this election is going to be decided upon the fact that a vice-presidential candidate shot a moose.
Animal rights activists are fuming because Palin shot a moose, and the NRA is jumping for joy because she...shot a moose!

A position that is lucky enough to be allowed to clean the ashtrays in the oval office, let alone clean up corruption in DC.
The biggest news the current VP ever made was about shooting a friend in the face, and the VP selection is going to decide this election.
Sad

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Reply #29 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 1:39pm
 


   LMAO!!!!!!!!  Have I told you lately that I love you Bob?
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Reply #30 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 4:10pm
 
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Dude, your quoting skills are a bit fucked up to say the least....LOL  Kiss



Its not just me, moron ... the software for this board was changed, and it now runs things together in the quote.  It's been happening to other people in other threads as well.

Here's a quote for you:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, .."

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Reply #31 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 4:19pm
 
monty wrote on Sep 7th, 2008 at 4:10pm:
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Dude, your quoting skills are a bit fucked up to say the least....LOL  Kiss

Its not just me, moron ... the software for this board was changed, and it now runs things together in the quote.  It's been happening to other people in other threads as well.


You call me moron?......I dont see anyone else here fucking up quotes, you are just a jackass that does not know how to quote.

I have no problem doing it, why is it that you are this fucking dumb?

Thats the second time you have quoted me out of order.....Learn how to use a puter!  Wink


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Reply #32 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 4:30pm
 
Guys and Gals, enough.

The American flag is a symbol of this country's heritage in that it depicts a field of blue with 50 stars, and red and white stripes depicting the original colonies.  That's it - it is a symbol.

It is not our country.  It is not our government - either party.  It is a symbol only.

It says nothing about who we are, what we are, or where we are going.  It is a symbol of our heritage.

As a symbol, yes, it should be revered and saluted and treated with dignity.  But it is not!

Before you start yelling about flags from either the DNC or the RNC showing up in dumpsters, please tell me, if our symbol is so sacred.....

Why are citizens wearing them as hats, emblazoned on t-shirts, even underwear. 

If it is so sacred, then it should only be shown flying high and proudly on a flagpole - not on someone's butt.

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Reply #33 - Sep 7th, 2008 at 4:35pm
 
It's incredible. The Charles Dobsons of the GOP are tickled pink by Palin's selection and those that agree with Palin that the earth is 6,000 years old and that the "Flinstones" is history are beside themselves with glee. Flag flying falls in the same category as an attempt to divert serious attention to the real world. They treat their own party almost as badly as the rest of the country. This is the kind of thing you get when you have to run away from the "accomplishments" of your own party and send the party faithful running screaming if either current leader shows up party rallies.

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Serious news gets only a smidgeon of coverage compared to baby bump stories.....By the way, it was McCain's campaign that gave the  media the pregnancy story first. He beat them to the punch.

Shame on the press for looking into a candidate's history.

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Reply #34 - Sep 8th, 2008 at 3:01pm
 
Pinkfloyd wrote on Sep 7th, 2008 at 1:12pm:
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AWESOME!!! An argument about a bunch of paper flags in the trash in a country where you have the right to burn the U.S. flag.  Really!!!  



More of our men and women are dead in Iraq than died on 9-11, upwards of a million people have lost their homes in the mortage scandle, some 700,000 Americans are in jail for smoking marijuana, 50 million people don't have health care, unemployment is through the roof, and this election is going to be decided upon the fact that a vice-presidential candidate shot a moose.
Animal rights activists are fuming because Palin shot a moose, and the NRA is jumping for joy because she...shot a moose!

A position that is lucky enough to be allowed to clean the ashtrays in the oval office, let alone clean up corruption in DC.
The biggest news the current VP ever made was about shooting a friend in the face, and the VP selection is going to decide this election.
Sad

Bobw



I totally agree with you Bob, and that was pretty much my point.  There are much bigger and more important things to consider in this election than a bunch of trash created at a party.  I am a little lost as to why you are qouting me to say this though.  Can you elaborate?
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Reply #35 - Sep 8th, 2008 at 3:55pm
 
Charlie wrote on Sep 7th, 2008 at 4:35pm:
[size=12]It's incredible. The Charles Dobsons of the GOP are tickled pink by Palin's selection and those that agree with Palin that the earth is 6,000 years old and that the "Flinstones" is history are beside themselves with glee. Flag flying falls in the same category as an attempt to divert serious attention to the real world. They treat their own party almost as badly as the rest of the country. This is the kind of thing you get when you have to run away from the "accomplishments" of your own party and send the party faithful running screaming if either current leader shows up party rallies.




I agree with you completely, Charlie, however, you have to look at the other side as well. 
They dont want you to look at the current leaders or their accomplishments, they just want you to look at the 'change'.  That is running from your history and screaming about change in order to rally voters.......cause I think we all want 'change'.

Its the same damn thing on both sides.  That is what gets me down, just like Mel.  I just cant keep up on it cause it is so damn frustrating.




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Reply #36 - Sep 8th, 2008 at 5:05pm
 
When I started this thread I did not even know if it was not true, nor did I care if it was true. My point is I feel it’s wrong no matter who is perpetrating the defacement.

I am also not calling anyone’s patriotism in to account ether. I just find it hard to believe that if a redneck knows what it means to be disrespectful to the flag, than a Harvard educated presidential wana be and his clan of political lawyers should.

So the flags were rescued and reused by people who care about what the flag stands for and not just what it can bestow upon them, in the heat of the moment.

And yes, I found some Charlie pills and I’ll leave it at that!

Love ya all for who you are, not what you stand for.

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Reply #37 - Sep 8th, 2008 at 9:44pm
 
I'm not confident looking for change on the right.

As much as I like John McCain, I'm not too excited about the McCain revolution in Washington. Same economic plan, same energy policy, same tax plan, same foreign policy, same Supreme Court appointments promised.

I believe that it's true that the McCain of 2000 wouldn't vote for the McCain of 2008.

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Reply #38 - Sep 8th, 2008 at 9:50pm
 
Thanks for your input again Charlie, even if I find it slanted in my minds eye. Roll Eyes

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Edit to add; I still think the world of you no matter what your political beliefs are. Cool
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Reply #39 - Sep 8th, 2008 at 10:03pm
 
I have to respond at least once a day or I'll break out in hives.

I like you as well. I wouldn't miss your comebacks either. I burn a lot of calories trying to keep up.  Cool

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Reply #40 - Sep 9th, 2008 at 12:16am
 
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 I am a little lost as to why you are qouting me to say this though.  Can you elaborate?


Just agreeing with the theme of your post.
Both sides do a great job of getting people to focus on the least important issues, building votes, one special interest group at a time.

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This thread completely illustrates the power the Republicrat/Demublican party has over the voters in this country.  Very sad..........  Undecided
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Agostino Leyre wrote on Sep 9th, 2008 at 9:05am:
This thread completely illustrates the power the Republicrat/Demublican party has over the voters in this country.  Very sad..........  Undecided


Actually, it's the voters that have the power.  People seem to forget that.  God forbid you actually use your brain, filter out the nonsense, and attempt to make an informed choice.  God forbid you actually take a position and defend it.
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This thread completely illustrates the power the Republicrat/Demublican party has over the voters in this country.  Very sad..........  Undecided


Actually, it's the voters that have the power.  People seem to forget that.  God forbid you actually use your brain, filter out the nonsense, and attempt to make an informed choice.  God forbid you actually take a position and defend it.


Oh I think people take positions and make "informed" choices.  It's just that the issues upon which they take positions are relatively worthless and the information is being spoon fed by special interests.
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Reply #44 - Sep 9th, 2008 at 1:29pm
 
I think you are right, to some degree.  Anybody who buys into the party line (any party) is a fool.  For the most part, most voters do no critical thinking.  Instead, they fall for the same old empty rhetoric that has worked so well for so many years.

As a nation, we are growing dumber by the minute.  Just look at the idiots we keep re-electing.  It is sad.  Hell, I'm dumber just for having participated in this debate.  Now you're dumber for having read it.  You're welcome.
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I think you are right, to some degree.  Anybody who buys into the party line (any party) is a fool.  For the most part, most voters do no critical thinking.  Instead, they fall for the same old empty rhetoric that has worked so well for so many years.

As a nation, we are growing dumber by the minute.  Just look at the idiots we keep re-electing.  It is sad.  Hell, I'm dumber just for having participated in this debate.  Now you're dumber for having read it.  You're welcome.


Dumber!  You aint kidding!  I believe we are the only ass backward country in 'the free world' that has put someone in office that had fewer votes than his opponent.  And, we have been going backwards ever since...
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Reply #46 - Sep 9th, 2008 at 1:43pm
 
Agostino Leyre wrote on Sep 9th, 2008 at 9:05am:
This thread completely illustrates the power the Republicrat/Demublican party has over the voters in this country.  Very sad..........  Undecided


Well, we have a Constitution that sets up a system that pretty much guarantees two major parties - and only one candidate can be chosen. I don't think there is one "Republicrat/Demublican party" - I think there are real differences between Al Gore and George Bush, and real differences between Barack Obama and John McCain.  As to whether people in this country or this forum can intelligently and fairly discuss the differences and make a rational decision (however you choose to define 'rational') is another question.  But there is an important decision to be made.
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monty wrote on Sep 9th, 2008 at 1:43pm:
 But there is an important decision to be made.

No, the decision has already been made for you.
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Reply #48 - Sep 9th, 2008 at 6:04pm
 
Dumb is what the people that control the two parties want.

There hasn't been a serious third party try since 1912 and that's an iffy description at that.

This is why you have to find one thing you like or hate and vote to convince yourself that you are making a decision.

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