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Reply #25 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:22am

Of course you can always feel good by laying everything on somebody else, like Clinton or others. It's why right wing talk radio screamers do so well. They feed an old human desire: Take away all your responsibility for your troubles by blaming one or two groups for everything that doesn't neatly fit into your own narrow views of the world.

Kids do it all the time.

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Reply #26 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:28am

Charlie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:22am:

Of course you can always feel good by laying everything on somebody else, like Clinton or others. It's why right wing talk radio screamers do so well. They feed an old human desire: Take away all your responsibility for your troubles by blaming one or two groups for everything that doesn't neatly fit into your own narrow views of the world.

Kids do it all the time.

Charlie

It's all Bush's fault.

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Reply #27 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:47am

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Charlie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:22am:

Of course you can always feel good by laying everything on somebody else, like Clinton or others. It's why right wing talk radio screamers do so well. They feed an old human desire: Take away all your responsibility for your troubles by blaming one or two groups for everything that doesn't neatly fit into your own narrow views of the world.

Kids do it all the time.

Charlie

It's all Bush's fault.

well i hope the next guy will be willing to work with congress.

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Reply #28 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 11:01am

-johnny- wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:47am:

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Charlie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:22am:

Of course you can always feel good by laying everything on somebody else, like Clinton or others. It's why right wing talk radio screamers do so well. They feed an old human desire: Take away all your responsibility for your troubles by blaming one or two groups for everything that doesn't neatly fit into your own narrow views of the world.

Kids do it all the time.

Charlie

It's all Bush's fault.

well i hope the next guy will be willing to work with congress.

and I hope Congress will listen to the people...

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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #29 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 11:02am Oops. My bad. Didn't realize Investor's Business News was a right wing screamer. It is what it is. At least mcCain wanted to reel in Mae & Mac 5 years ago. Too bad the Congress wouldn't go along. At least they bailed them out so Bama can still get money from them.
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Reply #30 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 11:09am

-johnny- wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:47am:

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Charlie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:22am:

Of course you can always feel good by laying everything on somebody else, like Clinton or others. It's why right wing talk radio screamers do so well. They feed an old human desire: Take away all your responsibility for your troubles by blaming one or two groups for everything that doesn't neatly fit into your own narrow views of the world.

Kids do it all the time.

Charlie

It's all Bush's fault.

well i hope the next guy will be willing to work with congress.

I gotta get me a sarcasm tag. I found a great deal of irony in Charlie's statement about right wingers picking one or two people on the left on which to blame all of life's woes.

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Reply #31 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 11:12am

Melissa wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 11:01am:

-johnny- wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:47am:

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Charlie wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 10:22am:

Of course you can always feel good by laying everything on somebody else, like Clinton or others. It's why right wing talk radio screamers do so well. They feed an old human desire: Take away all your responsibility for your troubles by blaming one or two groups for everything that doesn't neatly fit into your own narrow views of the world.

Kids do it all the time.

Charlie

It's all Bush's fault.

well i hope the next guy will be willing to work with congress.

and I hope Congress will listen to the people...

That's gonna happen - right after monkeys fly out of my butt. Grin

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fubar Ex Member	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #32 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 11:26am I blame the smurfs. Ever since those little blue commies got on the TV, things have gone downhill. Nuke the smurfs.
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Reply #33 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 1:43pm

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WASHINGTON — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Does that mean those who pay less in taxes are less patriotic?

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“We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people,” Biden said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: “It’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

Despite the fact that the top 5% of wage earners already pay 60% of the taxes.
Let's tax the sucessful so we can buy a few more 40 ouncers while our kids are out gang bangin'!

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Mrs. Barlow, I never, and I repeat never, ever pissed in your steam iron. "SHUT UP HUB!"

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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #34 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 1:51pm In no way can I vote for Obama. People who make more than $250,000 a year are our country's business owners. They are the ones who HIRE us. If they are being taxed more than the rest of the country, how will that affect the average worker when they have to compensate for it?? conundrums abound...
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Reply #35 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 2:03pm

Bob P wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 1:43pm:

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WASHINGTON — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Does that mean those who pay less in taxes are less patriotic?

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“We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people,” Biden said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: “It’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

Despite the fact that the top 5% of wage earners already pay 60% of the taxes.
Let's tax the sucessful so we can buy a few more 40 ouncers while our kids are out gang bangin'!

I don't remember the exact quote, but someone once said that democracy will work only until more than half of the electorate figures out that they can vote themselves a pay raise.

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Reply #36 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 2:29pm

LMAO, no way are any of these clowns gonna change anything. Time to pay the piper folks. I guess I'd like to see a little more accountability, and having the government step in and give away my tax dollars is not an acceptable option. We've been cruising around in a dreamland for the last twenty years and the time is coming to pay the piper, the problem is we don't have anything left to pay with. Our money is worthless, we don't "make" anything of value in this country anymore and the government is spending almost as much as our GNP is on socialist programs and benefits for multinational corporations, while I'm getting screwed out of over half of my paycheck. Time for them to start taking it out in blood I guess, cause I ain't got nothing left to give anymore. Sorry for the rant, getting hot under the collar. And watching these baffoons on TV select my presidential candidates for me isn't making me any happier.

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George CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Black-Billed Magpie Posts: 8126 Boise, Idaho USA Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #37 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 2:35pm Quote: I blame the smurfs. Ever since those little blue commies got on the TV, things have gone downhill. Nuke the smurfs. And Barney. Kill Barney. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Best, George
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fdharden CH.com Junior Offline Shutup--I'm talking! Posts: 44 Luray, VA Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #38 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 4:27pm There are several solid investment companies that offer "precious metals" stock. That's my best predictor for the next couple of years. Research USAA investments. They have been honest with me for 47 years. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation except as a customer with USAA.
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Re: AIG shares $$$
Reply #39 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 4:46pm

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It's all Bush's fault.

Oh I see irony all right but the difference is that you get to blame the one in charge....especially if he condones torture, lies incessantly about pre-emptive war, shreds the Constitution.... and thinks that we work for him.

Mel: The difference today in making everybody....not just you....pay taxes is that when the tax rates in this country were 80% or more, for those making millions, is that the country was in the most stable and biggest business boom in history. The guy working at GM could buy a little house, a pretty good car and take a week vacation with the kids. He could even send at least one kid to college. Those taxes on the rich were just awful. They don't have to be high, just be something that isn't used for nothing but political reasons.....and yes, such a time did exist when I was young.

Business and the whole the country does just fine when business contributes a little. Make tons of money but throw us a bone now and then.

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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #41 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 7:06pm LMAO Jonny
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Redd CH.com Sponsor Offline Posts: 8457 Stevens Point USA Wisconsin Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #42 - Sep 18^th, 2008 at 7:08pm Melissa wrote on Sep 18^th, 2008 at 8:09am: Redd- John Noel sold out to AIG. I'd talk more about it, but I'd have a biased opinion as I worked there for almost 3 years when Lily was very young. John is still CEO of the division, even though he sold it to AIG.
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Reply #43 - Sep 19^th, 2008 at 8:37pm

250,000 a year hardly qualifies as "rich". I don't think I'd work for a mjor corporation that net earnings were only 250,000 a year.

Like it or not, all of our tax money going to special interest CEO with 5 MILLION dollars golden parachutes who run their companies into the ground is the problem.

When the rich people (and buy rich I mean 1,000,000 a year or more) get more money, they just save it. Being rich becomes their only purpose in life. They protect themselvs and theirs, all while finding a way to give less (percentage-wise, not total amount) while charactristicly using more (percentage-wise again) than most of the rest of us.

So the US makes mroe money, making it worth less. So the rich try to get more to sit on, and the more they sit on the less the dollar is worth. It is simple economics. 250,000 a year isn't even upper class, it is the upper - middle class sure, but the difference between the top 5% and the top 1% is MILLIONS of dollars sitting around driving the value of the dollar down everytime those millionaires get more tax cuts.

Give tax cuts to the poorer people and middle class as they will actually spend the money because they need to. I do not care if they spend it on 40 ouncers, porn mags, monster truck rims, Buttwhiper, the king of terrible beer, or toilet paper. Keep the economy moving.

This current economy is what happens when all the money goes to the people who don't need it. Be assured that while the rest of us worry about losing our homes, they will still be wasting 250 gallons of gas a day in their yachts, and their military clearance Hummers. I guess I should apply for one of those 7 dollar an hour gas staion jobs or Wal-mar jobs, as those are the entities that get all the tax breaks while they set profit records (and pay terrible wages) while the rest of us wonder where the rent is going to come from.

Since my tax money helped build the Wal-mart up the road do you think that entitles me to move in there when I forclose?

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Reply #44 - Sep 19^th, 2008 at 8:42pm

Don't be deceived when they tell you things are better now. Even if there's no poverty to be seen because the poverty's been hidden. Even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which industries foist on you and even if it seems to you that you never had so much, that is only the slogan of those who still have much more than you. Don't be taken in when they pat you paternally on the shoulder and say that there's no inequality worth speaking of and no more reason to fight because if you believe them they will be completely in charge in their marble homes and granite banks from which they rob the people of the world under the pretence of bringing them culture. Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they'll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces.

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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #45 - Sep 19^th, 2008 at 10:16pm Yup. The economy works when it's built from the bottom up, not trickling down...on our heads. As I have said before, for a brief time in the 1950s and early 60s, every sector pitched in and created the biggest economic boom in recorded history. Charlie
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thebbz Ex Member	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #46 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 8:05pm Quote: I blame the smurfs. Ever since those little blue commies got on the TV, things have gone downhill. Nuke the smurfs. Hee..eheee.heeheheheeeeee I hate all politicians equally. Now that Smurfette I cant wait till November, what'll the news flunky's do then. thebb
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Reply #47 - Sep 23^rd, 2008 at 11:09pm

BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote on Sep 17^th, 2008 at 11:46pm:

FRE and FNM..........I would bet if you bought 1000 shares of each it would be worth $20k in the next 10 years. 1000 shares of each would cost about $750.

Or, it could be worth $0.

You never know. Cool

Did anyone listen to Daddy?
That $750 investment one week ago is worth over $2,600 today.

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Reply #48 - Sep 24^th, 2008 at 8:09pm

BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2008 at 11:09pm:

BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote on Sep 17^th, 2008 at 11:46pm:

FRE and FNM..........I would bet if you bought 1000 shares of each it would be worth $20k in the next 10 years. 1000 shares of each would cost about $750.

Or, it could be worth $0.

You never know. Cool

Did anyone listen to Daddy?
That $750 investment one week ago is worth over $2,600 today.

Your kidding, right? Shocked

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fubar Ex Member	Re: AIG shares $$$ Reply #49 - Sep 24^th, 2008 at 11:24pm Either way, it would have been a ballsy move. I'm not selling or buying anything right now.
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