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Reply #75 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:33pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:18pm:
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 Try a little of Ava's Desitin on that Mel.     LMAO!


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Reply #76 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:40pm
 
Jackie wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:33pm:
Linda_Howell wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:18pm:
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btw, Harry Reid chaps my azz.



 Try a little of Ava's Desitin on that Mel.     LMAO!


Or.....if there is a TSC store close they sell 'Anti-Monkey-Butt' powder.  Blake swears by it........ Grin

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Reply #77 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 4:00pm
 
Jackie wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:33pm:
Linda_Howell wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:18pm:
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btw, Harry Reid chaps my azz.


 Try a little of Ava's Desitin on that Mel.     LMAO!


Or.....if there is a TSC store close they sell 'Anti-Monkey-Butt' powder.  Blake swears by it........ Grin
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Reply #78 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 4:34pm
 
Melissa wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 1:54pm:
-johnny- wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 1:47pm:
i wonder how many people will pencil in pencil in somebodies name instead of voting with the masses.

Me thinks it'll be quite a few...

It'll be less than 1%.

Not saying that's the way I want it, just the way it will be.
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Reply #79 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 4:46pm
 

I'm penciling in Potters name.
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I finally got something useful out of a political thread.

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Reply #81 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 5:37pm
 
Does it cure swamp ass?
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Reply #82 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 6:08pm
 
I'll be happy to bring you guys all you want at the next convention. Maybe we will put it up for the auction. Uncle Lee's sells it by the case. Shocked
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Reply #83 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 7:36pm
 
-johnny- wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 1:47pm:
i wonder how many people will pencil in pencil in somebodies name instead of voting with the masses.



Not in this state, we vote by touch screen.
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Reply #84 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 7:45pm
 
Bob P wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 9:38am:
Bob, that's $425/person not $425,000.

Shut up Bob.

I got those numbers from the CEO of WAMU so they have to be correct.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #85 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 7:46pm
 
deltadarlin wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 7:36pm:
-johnny- wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 1:47pm:
i wonder how many people will pencil in pencil in somebodies name instead of voting with the masses.



Not in this state, we vote by touch screen.


so much for the "...by the People" part huh? Undecided
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Reply #86 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 9:10pm
 
Warner Todd Huston. Now there's a real trip over the right edge. Yikes.

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Reply #87 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 11:27pm
 
I see that the CEO of WaMu could get 13.65 million dollars for being on the job 18 days.

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How nice for him.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #88 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 8:38am
 
Thats nuts George.

I've always said it is nuts to allow CEO's such large golden parachutes. Lots of people say it is communist to prohibit things like this, and I've been accused of being anti-capitalist, but now, with the economy the way it is, some of those people hopefully have changed their minds.

As long as the top 1% has 95% of the nations wealth, we the common people, will be left in the lerch. The more money these people get, the weaker the dollar gets, and the weaker the dollar gets the more dollars these people want. Collecting money is the worlds dirtiest habit. It would be fine if it did not lead to the government bailing out the businesses these guys ruin to pay themselves such outrageous salaries.

I think most people do not understand how rich the top 1$ is. I am not trying to sound elite, and I don't understand fully myself (can anyone really visualize 20 billion dollars in pennies? - Maybe the law should be everyone should be able to hold thier bank account on land they own or something).

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Reply #89 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 9:07am
 
Google "Money as Debt".

It's a little movie that simply explains how banks create money out of thin air. It will open your eyes. I promise.

No Debt...No Money.

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Reply #90 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 4:14pm
 
Best-Paid Hedge Fund Managers

John Paulson earned a record $3.7 billion last year to top Alpha's ranking of the 50 most highly paid hedge fund managers. The Paulson & Co. chief surpassed perennial powerhouses George Soros and James Simons, who ranked second and third, at $2.9 billion and $2.8 billion, respectively. The top 25 on the list earned an average $892 million, up from $532 million in 2006.

Paulson rocketed to No. 1 in Alpha's seventh annual survey by shorting the subprime mortgage market. He, Soros, Simons and the others who earned more than $1 billion — Philip Falcone and Kenneth Griffin — led what may well prove to be the greatest display of individual wealth creation in any year in the modern history of finance.

The enormous riches being generated by hedge funds come at a time of extraordinary distress in financial markets, as millions of homeowners face potential foreclosure and the U.S. plunges into recession (see “Market Paranoia”). Undoubtedly, the huge paydays chronicled here are sure to cause a heightened level of envy and resentment toward hedge funds, and will draw additional scrutiny by Washington, which is already weighing whether to increase regulation.


Consider:

• Five of the managers on this year’s list each made more in 2007 than the $1.2 billion that JPMorgan Chase & Co. agreed to pay for the almost failed 85-year-old Bear Stearns Cos.

• When we published our inaugural list, in 2002, Soros led the way with $700 million, a showing that this year would have put him at No. 9. Back then it took $30 million to crack the top 25; this year, $360 million.

• The grand total earned by the top 25 in our 2003 ranking, almost $2.8 billion, was less than what any of the top three managers made this year and less than one fifth of what the top ten made altogether ($16.1 billion).

• Though we doubled the size of our list from 25 to 50 this year, longtime New York–based star managers Mark Kingdon of Kingdon Capital Management and Raj Rajaratnam of Galleon Group both miss the cut, despite each making about $200 million. This year’s minimum: $210 million.


Alpha uses two components to calculate earnings: managers’ share of their firm’s performance and management fees, as well as gains on their own capital. (For multibillionaires like Soros and Simons, the latter can be substantial.) We exclude, however, any proceeds from the sale of a firm or from a public offering, which is more a reflection of managers’ business acumen than of their investment prowess. Still, it’s hard to ignore the enormous wealth being generated by such deals. Daniel Och was worth more than $4.5 billion the day after New York–based Och-Ziff Capital Management Group went public last fall. And GLG Partners co-founders Noam Gottesman and Pierre Lagrange each made more than $1 billion by engineering an IPO of their London firm last summer through a merger.

And WE are bailing them out? Angry

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Reply #91 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 4:30pm
 
Awesome post Jonny.

Yeah what a crock. How come when a person defaults and needs help he is a pinko commie welfare lazy layabout loser who should be beaten.

BUT when an airline, or bank, or fund-firm mismanages their company those same people bail them out?

And to make it worse, the people who created the mess still make millions, but all the employees get the can and then become the guy I mentioned in the first paragrpah.

People, quit listening to the top 1% in this country. They have been turning us on our heads having us attack each other while they take what they want, ruin it, get paid to ruin it, and then take more from us to bail them out, in the name of "captialism."

I say, let the market sort this crap out. The problem with that is all the workers who had nothing to do with the problem get the ax, not the a-hole who made the mess.

This country needs an enema, and from the top down.
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Reply #92 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 4:39pm
 
superhawk2300 wrote on Sep 27th, 2008 at 4:30pm:
Awesome post Jonny.


Want to know who caused this shit?

Watch: (8 mins, but worth it!)

Who Screwed Up the Housing Market and Caused the World Wide Credit Crunch?

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Reply #93 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 5:05pm
 
This all happened because there were some lovely people in government administration that decided to encourage banks to lower their interest rates so more people could afford homes.  These people should have NEVER gotten those loans! 

I'm not going to say who did it though.  Ya'll need to find out who all it was... Tongue

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Reply #94 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 5:18pm
 
Dang, a little slow here, LOL.

Jonny, I sooooooooooooo wish they'd play those clips on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and MSNBC. Sad  It really, truely is a liberal media giant out there!!
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Melissa wrote on Sep 27th, 2008 at 5:18pm:
 It really, truely is a liberal media giant out there!!


Yup, bigger goverment and higher taxes while we bail out billionaires.

Go liberal! Roll Eyes
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Reply #96 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 7:46pm
 
Liberal media.

You'll get no argument from me. They love Obama for obvious reasons. He's something new. McCain is well-liked too but there's no comparison. Obama is a cash cow for cable news advertisers too.  McCain had an all too brief experience with this in 2000 when he should have been the nominee.

There is no mystery why the media and Hollywood are like this of course. You can blame the latter on McCarthyism for the most part and sending producers to prison. It's been mostly the right that looks at censorship and howls about Janet Jackson's "shocking" display. You don't fine CBS over this or try to sneak in fake news conferences without a backlash. Those that thrive on status quo don't like people poking around in their little world.

Still, they do love Obama and the media is liberal........fortunatley. Media leans left in every country or it's not free.

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Reply #97 - Sep 27th, 2008 at 9:35pm
 
The media is as liberal as the multi-conglomorate corporations that own the media outlets.

If feel good stories will buy ratings that is what you will see, becasue that is what gets them paid.
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Nuff said!  Angry

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Reply #99 - Sep 28th, 2008 at 2:22am
 
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John Paulson earned a record $3.7 billion last year to top Alpha's ranking of the 50 most highly paid hedge fund managers. The Paulson & Co. chief surpassed perennial powerhouses George Soros and James Simons, who ranked second and third, at $2.9 billion and $2.8 billion, respectively. The top 25 on the list earned an average $892 million, up from $532 million in 2006.



It seems to me that a "hedge fund manager" is expert only in accumulating money which is "earned" elsewhere.  Perhaps I'm mistaken, but unless money is produced out of thin air and represents nothing at all, these financial "wizards" are simply pulling rabbits out of other people's hats. 

I can't remember who said it--but we used to make things in this country.  Now we only pick each others pockets.  After this latest debacle in the financial markets, I'm done paying homage to the scavengers on Wall Street.  Not that I was ever particularly worshipful...   Wink

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