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Reply #26 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 11:01am

So, jonny, if I understand you correctly, even if fact should disprove what you're watching on you tube, you would still believe you tube?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not voting for Obama. AND for the record, I'm not voting for McCain either. Hell, from what I've read on the independents, I may not vote at all!

This campaign is already making history as one of the dirtiest, mud-slinging campains in history (and neither side is blameless in this fiasco) And we still have more than a month to go? Lord only knows what will be dragged up next.

Oooooh, charlie called jonny, sweetie Grin

I did find what I was looking for (so far that is, because I'm still looking). This does provide protection for an infant that is born alive as a result of partial birth abortion.

Section 5 states, "The General Assembly finds that all children who are born alive are entitled to equal protection under the law regardless of the circumstances surrounding the birth. Children who are born alive as the result of an induced labor abortion or any other abortion are in special need of protection due to the fact that the intent of their birth is to cause the death of the born child."

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Reply #27 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 1:27pm

Meanwhile... The hippie dopers from the 60s... Ah… pardon me... Make that the Pelosi Politburo has passed a bill in the House, (H.R. 6899, the so-called "Comprehensive American Energy Security and Consumer Protection Act."), literally in the dark of night, that EFFECTIVELY PROHIBITS domestic drilling and is trying to sell this legislation to the American people as a measure that opens up domestic drilling! If you think I’m blowing smoke, go read the bill…. I did. The Pelosi Politburo thinks all the kool-aid drinkers are too stupid to read...

With socialists/marxists in power in congress... we've got even bigger fish to fry. Try $8 a gallon for gas, a 35% increase in tax in one form or another on for size then tell me it's all the fault of President Bush...

Don't forget the Pelosi Politburo also wants to let in a half million more aliens a year and give them social security in one form or another the day they step on US soil... that will come out of your pocket too...

Remember liberalism is a mental disorder... killing unborn babies is their holy grail, and the obamanoids want to make it the National religion...

Give me Johny Mac and Sarah any day...

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Reply #28 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 1:52pm

It's easy to see the kind of radio entertainment you like Batch.

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This pretty much lays out the kind of fecal residue we are to expect from far right radio screamers.

It's a good read kids.

This is a quote toward the end that pretty much sums it up:

We asked several radio hosts to come on this broadcast and talk about the story; they either declined or didn't return our calls. The issue of course is not their right to say anything they want on the air. The First Amendment guarantees their free speech as it does mine. Government shouldn't be the arbiter of what the Bill of Rights leaves to one's own sense of fair play. Watching that report, however, I was reminded of a story from folk lore about the tribal elder telling his grandson about the battle the old man was waging within himself. He said, "My son it is between two wolves. One is an evil wolf: anger, envy, sorrow, greed, self-pity, guilt, resentment, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other is the good wolf: joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, generosity, truth, compassion and faith." The boy took this in for a few minutes and then asked, "Which wolf won?" His grandfather answered, "The one I feed." So, too, America's public life. The wolf that wins is the wolf we feed. Media provides the fodder.

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Reply #29 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 2:43pm

Time for a late lunch so here is Maureed Dowd the other day.

Have fun kids. You don't have to like her to enjoy:

Barbies For War

Carly Fiorina, the woman John McCain sent out to defend Sarah Palin and rip anyone who calls her a tabula rasa on foreign policy and the economy, admitted Tuesday that Palin was not capable of running Hewlett-Packard.

That’s pretty damning coming from Fiorina, who also was not capable of running Hewlett-Packard.

Carly helpfully added that McCain (not to mention Obama and Biden) couldn’t run a major corporation. He couldn’t get his immigration bill passed either, but now he’s promising to eliminate centuries of greed on Wall Street.

The Wall Street Journal reported that McCain was thinking about taking Palin to the U.N. General Assembly next week so she can shake hands with some heads of state. You can’t contract foreign policy experience like a rhinovirus. To paraphrase the sniffly Adelaide in “Guys and Dolls,” a poy-son could develop a cold war.

The latest news from Alaska is that the governor keeps a tanning bed in the Juneau mansion. As The Los Angeles Times pointed out, when Palin declared May 2007 Skin Cancer Awareness Month in Alaska, the press release explained that skin cancer was caused by “the sun and from tanning beds.”

I sautéed myself in Sarahville last week.

I wandered through the Wal-Mart, which seemed almost as large as Wasilla, a town that is a soulless strip mall without sidewalks set beside a soulful mountain and lake.

Wal-Mart has all the doodads that Sarah must need in her career as a sportsman — Remingtons and “torture tested” riflescopes, game bags for caribou, machines that imitate rabbits and young deer and coyotes to draw your quarry in so you can shoot it, and machines to squish cows into beef jerky.

I talked to a Wal-Mart mom, Betty Necas, 39, wearing sweatpants and tattoos on her wrists.

She said she’s never voted, and was a teenage mom “like Bristol.” She likes Sarah because she’s “down home” but said Obama “gives me the creeps. Nothing to do with the fact that he’s black. He just seems snotty, and he looks weaselly.”

Ten Obama supporters in Wasilla braved taunts and drizzle to stand on a corner between McDonald’s and Pizza Hut. They complained that Sarah runs government like a vengeful fiefdom and held up signs. A guy with a bullhorn yelled out of a passing red car: “Go back to the city, you liberal Communists!”

At gatherings in The Last Frontier, pastors pray for reporters, drilling evokes cheers and Todd Palin is hailed as a guy who likes to burn fossil fuels.

I had many “Sarahs,” as her favorite skinny white mocha is now called, at the Mocha Moose. “I’ve seen her at 4 a.m. with no makeup,” said manager Karena Forster, “and she’s just as beautiful.”

I stopped by Sarah’s old Pentecostal church, the Wasilla Assembly of God, and perused some books: “The Bait of Satan,” “Deliverance from PMS,” and “Kissed the Girls and Made them Cry: Why Women Lose When They Give In.” (Author Lisa Bevere advises: “Run to the arms of your prince and enter your dream.”)

In Anchorage Saturday, I went by a conference conducted by James Dobson’s Focus on the Family and supported by Sarah’s current church, the Wasilla Bible Church, about how to help gays and lesbians “journey out” of same-sex attraction.

(As The Times reported recently, in 1995, Palin, then a city councilwoman, told colleagues she had seen “Daddy’s Roommate” on the shelf of the library and did not approve. The Wasilla Assembly of God tried to ban “Pastor, I Am Gay” by Howard Bess, a liberal Christian preacher in nearby Palmer.)

Anne Heche’s mother, Nancy, talked about her distress when her daughter told her she was involved with Ellen. Jeff Johnston told me he had “a struggle” with homosexuality “for a season,” but is now “happily married with three boys.” (Books for sale there included “Mommy, Why Are They Holding Hands?” and “You Don’t Have to Be Gay.”)

I covered a boisterous women against Palin rally in Anchorage, where women toted placards such as “Fess up about troopergate,” “Keep your vows off my body,” “Barbies for war!” “Sarah, please don’t put me on your enemies list,” and “McCain and Palin = McPain.”

A local conservative radio personality, Eddie Burke, who had lambasted the organizers as “a bunch of socialist, baby-killing maggots,” was on hand with a sign reading “Alaska is not Frisco.”

“We are one Supreme Court justice away from overturning Roe v. Wade,” he excitedly told me.

R. D. Levno, a retired school principal, flew in from Fairbanks. “She’s a child, inexperienced and simplistic,” she said of Sarah. “It’s taking us back to junior high school. She’s one of the popular girls, but one of the mean girls. She is seductive, but she is invented.”

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Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them......Scumbags! Angry

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Reply #35 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 5:13pm

Obama to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations only?

Yes, using the big lie which is the dirty little secret that the Leftists do not want discussed, a tax increase is planned for every human being living and dead in the USA, legal citizen or not.

When you hear a Leftist talk about taxing the Corporations and not taxing the poor, you are being told the “BIG LIE”.

What is the “Big Lie”? Corporations do not pay taxes. They simply collect them.

For all of you that march in lock step with the Obama camp, let me put it to you this way.

The Big Bad Corporation that produces K-Y Jelly has just had their taxes raised by Obama. These Taxes add up to a total of 1 penny per unit produced. Sounds small doesn’t it.

K-Y Corporation then adds one and 1/10th penny to the cost of each unit to their distributors. Why the 1/10th addition? K-Y has to pay accountants and administration staff to deduct the tax from their proceeds, and pay it to the Federal Government, not to mention State and Local governments. If they don’t keep the books they can go to jail.

The Distributor now has to add another 1.1 penny to each unit sold to the retailer. The Retailer add another 1.1 penny, until it is sold to the user who has to pay an additional 3.3 cents per unit bought.

NOTE: K-Y Corporation is only being used as an example, so the indoctrinated Left can relate.

This will apply to every corporation in America so each and every item of anything you purchase will cost you a few pennies more. Every person, no matter what age, race, gender, gender preference, religion, income status, or legal status who buys anything legally will suffer the tax increase. (Does not apply for items bought on the black market)

For all of you “Lock Step Liberals” going to College, the next time you buy one of your professor’s $120.00 text books; it will cost you $125.00. Hope your feeling patriotic.

The Professor of course will tell you about the evils of capitalism and the virtues of Marxism as he receives his check from the book store for the sale.

The Hollywood left will scratch their heads and blame the Movie houses for raising ticket prices when people cutback on entertainment, and their hundreds of millions of movie revenue is reduced to 10’s of millions.

And so on and so on……

Bottom line: Corporations don’t pay corporate taxes; they collect them for the Government. When you hear anyone say Tax the Corporations and cut taxes for the middle class, they are lying to you because they think you are too stupid to know any better.

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Reply #36 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 7:20pm

Well put Jonny... The "Dirty Little Lie" the obmanoids and Pelosi's politburo are pushing is going to gulp big chunks of my retirement pay that I worked my ass off saving...

Nice try Charlie... I salute your seniority, but please try telling me something original based on your own analysis... not quotes from some left wing fish wrap...

"There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading; the few who learn by observation; The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." …Will Rogers

I will agree with you that the extremists on both sides of the political spectrum have their disinformation mills running full tilt. Having said that, I've been in Norway for the last week so could only watch the BBC... Not much of interest there except watching the US markets yoyo, and results of the rabid "tahlly-bahn" suicide attack on the Marriott in Islamabad "Pockestan... "

I do read... and what I've been reading as published by the Government Printing Office (GPO) in the Official Congressional Record over the last couple days scares the shit out of me. If you bothered to read it too... metamucil would be a thing of the past...

Uffda!

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Reply #39 - Sep 20^th, 2008 at 9:37pm

You sure as hell don't need Metamucil Batch

Back to the fun world of politics without links to the Michelle Malkin types of the world.

It isn't as much fun though as talking about lipsticked pigs or whom you want over for wings and a beer. You know: boring stuff like health care, war, environment, jobs, prices, energy, the prospect of a new cold war, and of course something that we used to have: an economy.

Too boring. Back to pretty pictures of babies and where they stand on being a jerk like McCain that campaigns against everything he and what's left of the GOP supported for the last 8 years and his lunatic Rovian choice for VEEP. It's stunning that a man can be so reckless and still be a nominee. This is what the GOP has come to.

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Reply #41 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 11:12am

Charlie,

Much better... although I obviously don't share your political views... and don't go around trying to put down a good looking American born Philipina... I have a feeling Michelle can hold her own with pundits and old farts like us any day with one hand and half her brain tied behind her back... Show me photo's of cute babies... or babes... any day...

Speaking of babes... Gulp... Norway is full of stunners... I'll try to post some photo's of a few a bit later from the Clustercompagniet and Norges Migreneforbund conference in Haugesund.

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Reply #42 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 12:11pm

Batch wrote on Sep 21^st, 2008 at 11:12am:

Charlie, don't go around trying to put down a good looking American born Philipina... Show me photo's of cute babes... any day...
Speaking of babes... Gulp... Norway is full of stunners... I'll post some photo's of a few.....
Take Care,

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Pete didn’t you go over to Haugesund Norway for a conference, and talk about O2, or was that a cover story, and you went “hunting”,
its not a sport for senior citizens, or was it Svenn influence on you?
Pete one more thing, this is a very serious thread and very important, I don’t see what babes in Norway have to do
with US politics and the up coming elections………. or do they?

Michael

PS: Pete did I put your post out of context…. I do qualify to go into politics…..

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Reply #43 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 2:35pm

wildhaus wrote on Sep 21^st, 2008 at 12:11pm:

Batch wrote on Sep 21^st, 2008 at 11:12am:

Charlie, don't go around trying to put down a good looking American born Philipina... Show me photo's of cute babes... any day...
Speaking of babes... Gulp... Norway is full of stunners... I'll post some photo's of a few.....
Take Care,

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I don’t see what babes in Norway have to do
with US politics and the up coming elections………. or do they?

Hot babe pics are always a must......and Pete knows that! Wink

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Reply #44 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 5:02pm

Well, you funlovers can relax Shocked

as now that the golden parachuters have left town...some chased for that matter; it's pretty unlikely that there will be anything left for things like health care and other things promised by McCain and Obama.

Saving capitalism from the capitalists is going to take a little out of us. I'd like the deal they have: Socializing losses but privatizing profits...stunning. The rest of country is stuck with trickle down misery.

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Reply #45 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 5:03pm

Michael,

I gave the presentation on the DEVO2THERAPY™ Friday afternoon at 17:00 and it worked effectively and as advertised every time is was used. That was at least once during each session of the three-day conference by at least 8 of attendees… Even Svenn huffed and puffed out a 7 minute abort…

As far as stunning being more interesting than US politics… look at the following and decide for yourself.

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After driving through Haukelisaeter, 3980 Meters (13,057 Feet) up in the Telemark and arriving at our hotel in Haugesund, I bellied up to the bar to wet my whistle and was greeted by Inga… and promptly forgot what I wanted to order…

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To get back on track so to speak… I found the Norwegians to be exceptionally well educated and very conversant on global matters including US politics. A few thought President Bush and the USA were cowboys for going into Iraq and Afghanistan, but by in large, most folks over 40 understood it was a logical course of action for the United States to take. A few of the more senior folks I spoke with had the same sentiment adding, soto voce, If it hadn’t been for the United States, they would have been speaking German or Russian and quietly urged us on in the war on Islamic terrorism.

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Reply #48 - Sep 24^th, 2008 at 9:24am

Today I think the Senate votes on some sort of offshore drilling.

A comment on it and small summary of candidate positions.

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Dems To Let Offshore Drilling Ban Expire

"If true, this capitulation by Democrats following months of Republican pressure is a big victory for Americans struggling with record gasoline prices," said House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio.

John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, has promised to make offshore oil drilling a priority if elected president. He has called for developing the oil and gas resources along all of Outer Continental Shelf and for the federal government to share royalties with states who go along with drilling.

Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama has said he would support limited drilling in certain areas - possibly the South Atlantic region - if it is part of a broader energy plan to shift the U.S. away from oil to alternative fuels and more energy efficiency.

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The projections in the OCS [Outer Continental Shelf] access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017.

Similarly, lower 48 natural gas production is not projected to increase substantially by 2030 as a result of increased access to the OCS.

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Big victory for struggling Americans?

In the meantime, other news says 25 billion to Detroit automakers for retooling, the 2007 Detroit Auto Show concept car Volt by GM hurried to be offered by late 2010. Something like 40 miles electric, 400 on gas. I don't know a price estimate.
I guess U.S. automakers likewise gave up an argument convincing consumers that designing and building fuel-efficient cars that are smaller, less crashworthy and less safe than big SUV's has changed, too. Marketing will suddenly ignore that approach of safety versus non-safety, which influenced consumer priorities, since it's no longer profitable to them.

It's easy to see what priority the word "drill" is aimed at but presenting of drill or not drill to market one political party or the other seem ineffective as options of "your choice" for struggling Americans. Moving on now past this big victory, options excluded might seem more interesting.

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