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Reply #25 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 12:57pm
 
Hey come on Nebraska kids are going to be the best kids in the world because now instead of saying  "do you want a time out" or "sit in the corner"  now they can say "shape up or I'll give you to the state" Shocked   lol......   This law is nuts and idle threats dont work....   Anyone with kids know you cant just give up your kid.  But if you are a good parent and you have a disorderly teenager, on drugs, constant run away, ect..  If you tried every thing counseling, thearapy, or what ever you can think of maybe giving them to the state may help.     Phil
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Reply #26 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 2:52pm
 
Shawn:

You'll find that it's not the liberals that run around using the so-called family values crap to stick their noses in everywhere and try to dictate what goes in our bedrooms, just the opposite: It's done by those laughingly calling  themselves "conservatives." Liberals tend to keep out of legislating stuff like this more than those on the right that seem to think that if it feels good or is fun, it needs to be regulated or banned.

We have too many tv preachers as it is and conservatives are determined to inflict antique social mores on the rest of us in order to gain votes.

No. This has nothing to do with liberal thought.

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Reply #27 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 3:04pm
 
Here is the full AP story...

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11 kids, including family of 9, abandoned
By TIMBERLY ROSS – 54 minutes ago

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Eleven children ranging in age from 1 to 17 were left at hospitals Wednesday under Nebraska's unique safe haven law, which allows caregivers to abandon youngsters up to age 19 without fear of prosecution.

Nine of the children came from one family. The five boys and four girls were left by their father, who was not identified, at Creighton University Medical Center's emergency room. Unrelated boys ages 11 and 15 also were surrendered Wednesday at Immanuel Medical Center.

The law, which went into effect in July, initially was intended to protect infants. In a compromise with senators worried about arbitrary age limits, the measure was expanded to include the word "child," which wasn't defined. Some have interpreted this to mean anyone under the age of 19.

At least 16 children have been abandoned since the law took effect, according to the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services. Two of those cases don't fall under the safe haven law because one child was left at a police station and one child's age wasn't covered by the law.

Todd Landry, director of Health and Human Services' division of Children and Family Services, said that in nearly every case, the parents who left their children felt overwhelmed and had decided they didn't want to be parents anymore. None of the kids dropped off so far have been in danger, he said.

"It was the parents not wanting to continue the journey with their kids," Landry said Thursday at a news conference in Lincoln.

The department was still investigating Wednesday's drop-offs. The abandoned siblings were in no danger and it wasn't clear why their father gave them up, Landry said.

Five of the nine siblings were placed in a foster home and the rest were taken to an emergency shelter, he said. The department was working on a new arrangement that would keep the kids together.

In the other cases on Wednesday, one child was temporarily placed in foster care and the other was in the hospital for evaluation.

Youngsters abandoned under the safe haven law are generally placed in protective custody while the courts decide where the child should live.

Parental rights don't end automatically but parents who change their mind about abandonment may find it difficult to regain custody. A county attorney may determine that a child should be allowed to return home, Landry said.

Nebraska was the last state in the nation to adopt a safe-haven law. Under previous law, a parent who abandoned a baby could have been charged with child neglect or abandonment, both misdemeanors, or child abuse, a felony.

State Sen. Arnie Stuthman said he introduced the bill intending to protect infants. In a compromise with senators worried about arbitrary age limits, the measure was expanded.

Abandoning teenagers was not the original intent of the law, Stuthman said Thursday.

"People are leaving them off just because they can't control them," he said. "They're probably in no real danger, so it's an easy way out for the caretaker."

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Reply #28 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 4:25pm
 
This law is bull sh!t but who are we to judge others we dont know the whole story,  I personally would never consider dropping my kid off like that,  but if I was told I was going to die tommrow and I didn't have anyone to take care of my kids when Im gone hell yes I would drop them off atleast I would know they were safe before I went.   Im just saying we dont know there story.  Let only GOD judge.       PHIL      
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Reply #29 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 9:46pm
 
Charlie, you never cease to amaze me.

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Interesting reading anyway

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Reply #30 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 10:25pm
 
Monty,
I don't think anybody has a problem with the *safe haven* laws in their original form (that being dealing with newborns).  I don't think anyone ever envisioned that the law would be *stretched*  so far.

fubar,
I'm not going to say that this law was passed by *liberals*, especially given that none of the NE Senators have a party affiliation noted.  However, NE tends to be a solidly Republican state, so..................
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Reply #31 - Sep 25th, 2008 at 10:44pm
 
No, in fact it was written by a Republican.  The language was changed to say 'child' instead of infant because a liberal brought out the red herring argument that the word 'infant' might be too narrowly interpreted.  So, they changed the word to 'child', which in Nebraska is 19 and below.  But you're right, Nebraska is typically pretty blue.  In fact, even though they don't officially have a partisan senate, they have twice as many Republicans as Democrats.  It's not the first time a minority has managed to  pervet  legislation proposed by the majority (that goes both ways)
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Reply #32 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 12:53am
 
Nevertheless, wherever you find some arbitrary inflexible one-size-fits-all, three strikes and your out legislation....especially relating to "family values," you're likely to find a grinning bible thumping Republican.

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Reply #33 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 8:48am
 
Charlie wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 12:53am:
Nevertheless, wherever you find some arbitrary inflexible one-size-fits-all, three strikes and your out legislation....especially relating to "family values," you're likely to find a grinning bible thumping Republican.

Charlie

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Re: Don't want your kids?  Move to Nebraska
Reply #34 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 7:22pm
 
Well, it looks like they may have to rethink that law

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