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Bob P wrote on Oct 7th, 2008 at 2:23pm:
In the Keating 5, the 2 Republican Senators were found to have done no wrong, the 3 Democratic Senators had acted improperly.


Incorrect.  None of them were found guilty of any crime; Cranston was reprimanded (slap on wrist), Riegle and DeConcini were criticized for acting improperly (finger-wag), and Glenn (D) and McCain (R) were criticized for poor judgment (tut-tut).
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Incorrect.  None of them were found guilty of any crime

Who said anything about convicted of a crime?  I think you have incorrectly, incorrected me.
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Reply #29 - Oct 7th, 2008 at 4:48pm
 
Why can't they just stick to the issues???

This thread couldn't even stick to the issue.  Controversy makes headlines and is more interesting to people than discussing issues.

The 60 minutes with McCain and Obama was a much better discussion of the issues than any debate or commercial will ever be.  I also thought the Saddleback forum was 1000000 times better than a debate.  May I suggest catching those on youtube or cbs.com if you want to hear the closest thing to discussing issues.
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Reply #30 - Oct 7th, 2008 at 5:58pm
 
Interesting article in the economist - a survey of economists shows most think that Obama's policies are better for promoting fiscal discipline, energy policy, reducing the number of people without health insurance, controlling health-care costs, reforming financial regulation and boosting long-run economic growth.  

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Bob P wrote on Oct 7th, 2008 at 4:42pm:
Who said anything about convicted of a crime?  I think you have incorrectly, incorrected me.


Nope - although I did point out that no one was convicted of a crime, I did not say that you were wrong about that.  You were wrong in saying that 2 Republicans were 'found to do no wrong' while 3 Democrats acted improperly. It's clear all five did wrong, and that the investigation let it all slide - none of them got more than a 'don't do it again' warning.  

McCain and a Democrat were found to be least involved, and they were criticized for poor judgment.  In McCain's case, for a conflict of interest and intervening with regulators on behalf of his friend and business partner Charles Keating, who disappeared billions of dollars of savings and loan money that was government insured.  

At the end of the day, I don't think that the Keating 5 scandal will be a deal breaker for most people - I would agree that McCain was probably the least involved of the 5.  But McCain's overall economic knowledge and polices are not so inspiring.

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