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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 8:42pm  
Charlie wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 8:38pm:
and having someone as incredibly unqualified take over.


Then, you sir, ought to be really scared if Obama gets in......LMMFAO! Grin
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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 8:46pm  
Well according to her, she can "really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better".  Not to mention they may have the opportunity of replacing up to 3 Judges that could re-write the definition of marriage, which I think is what she had said she wanted, not a bill passed, but the Constitution rewritten.  It's ok with you that she wants to do that?  She wants to strip the power from the states to decide?  She wants to throw executive power into the legislative? 

As to that video...Fox 'News'?  Really?  Citing Fox News is laughable, it's not a legitimate news media (neither are the other tv news medias, honestly).  Anything with Fox News is bound to be very pro-republican and tried to make democrats look anti-American, not supporting troops.  Troops don't support just one candidate, they don't all support the war, they don't all think that if you don't support the war then you don't support them.  There are a lot of troops that support Ron Paul because he wants out completely, no timelines like Obama.  To voting against equipment for the troops, yeah, it's stupid to vote against it, even if you're voting against it not having a timeline like Obama did.  But McCain voted against another bill that did have a timeline and Obama voted for it.  Both completely wrong to vote against it.  As for the surge, well there's a lot saying it didn't exactly do much like it's been perceived to have done.  One being satellite images that showed lights (I think it was lights) of the Sunni's or one of them migrating out of Iraq into Syria and the surge just helped clean out the trail end.  A close Bush reporter said Bush told him it was mostly due to the exploding care package type stuff they were doing but wouldn't go into detail.
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Reply #27 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:04pm  
Audre wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 8:46pm:
 As for the surge, well there's a lot saying it didn't exactly do much like it's been perceived to have done.  


LMMFAO (Again).......yeah, it only turned the whole war around, even Obama said so. He also said he would NOT vote for it again.....Huh?

When Russia invaded Georgia, Obama said that the INVADED country should restrain........Is that what he is going to say if America is invaded? Shocked

Hes already setting up tea parties with our enemies, what else would you expect!....Christ!  Roll Eyes
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #28 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:04pm  
Charlie wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 8:38pm:
Having to listen to her moronic "You betchas" all the time.....not to mention another idiot insulting the English language with "nuculur." George Bush was bad enough and that he never corrected himself was also insulting to us as well.

As opposed to Teddy that IMHO is unable to properly pronounce the name of the largest city in the state where he was born.

Change nothing but Palin's political views and you'd be eating her ass up with a spoon while her current supporters would be throwing her to the sharks.

Damn I'll be glad when this election is over....
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Reply #29 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:09pm  
Who do you want as a president in time of war?

An American hero naval officer

Or

A lawyer?
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #30 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:13pm  
What does Teddy say? Bastin? If that's it, he and millions in New England say it. Not sure what you mean though.

Of course the way Barbie speaks, my old English teacher would rap her knuckles. It makes me cringe. It's not the Kings' English.

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Reply #31 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:13pm  
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Who do you want as a president in time of war?

An American hero naval officer

Or

A lawyer?


A decorated war hero that served 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton.
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #32 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:47pm  
Ugh.  Don't get me started on the Georgia/Russia war.  Georgia started it.  They invaded a sovereign 'nation'.  They were a break away region that Georgia acknowledged as independent for years.  They had their own Constitution, they had their own elected President.  They asked to be part of Russian territory.  They were given Russian passports.  Georgia was the occupier, Georgia was the instigator. 

The surge turned around so well that a million of Iraqi's are protesting in the streets to get the troops out of there and not extend our stay until 2011.  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register  The surge didn't do what it was perceived to have done.  As far as Obama saying it worked but he wouldn't vote for it again...yeah, that doesn't make much sense. 

Who are our enemies?  Iran?  They're really not our enemies, the people are actually very pro America.  They aren't creating nuclear weapons, they aren't planning on creating nuclear weapons and they never said they'd wipe Israel off the map.  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register  There is nothing wrong with talking with leaders we have problems with.  We first tried bullying North Korea, they got pissed at us and started rebuilding theirs.  We send some one to go talk with them and they're retearing them down, this time with the help of Japan.  It shouldn't be the President, it shouldn't be some little friendly get together, but it should be diplomatic and respectable and try to work with them instead of bullying everyone, that's where wars leave, that's why Russia's pissed at us (I'm sure there's other reasons too).
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Reply #33 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 10:03pm  
Audre wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 9:47pm:
Ugh.  Don't get me started on the Georgia/Russia war.  Georgia started it.  They invaded a sovereign 'nation'.  They were a break away region that Georgia acknowledged as independent for years.  They had their own Constitution, they had their own elected President.  They asked to be part of Russian territory.  They were given Russian passports.  Georgia was the occupier, Georgia was the instigator.  

The surge turned around so well that a million of Iraqi's are protesting in the streets to get the troops out of there and not extend our stay until 2011.  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register  The surge didn't do what it was perceived to have done.  As far as Obama saying it worked but he wouldn't vote for it again...yeah, that doesn't make much sense.  

Who are our enemies?  Iran?  They're really not our enemies, the people are actually very pro America.  They aren't creating nuclear weapons, they aren't planning on creating nuclear weapons and they never said they'd wipe Israel off the map.  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register  Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register  There is nothing wrong with talking with leaders we have problems with.  We first tried bullying North Korea, they got pissed at us and started rebuilding theirs.  We send some one to go talk with them and they're retearing them down, this time with the help of Japan.  It shouldn't be the President, it shouldn't be some little friendly get together, but it should be diplomatic and respectable and try to work with them instead of bullying everyone, that's where wars leave, that's why Russia's pissed at us (I'm sure there's other reasons too).


Gee, do you have a life?

What matters is, is Obama going to ask that America restrain while we are being invaded?

The only one to have run shit in this country is Palin, all Obama has done is voted "present" because he was scared to vote.

Oh BTW, do you not realise that both Hilliary and Biden said Obama was no where near ready to be prez?.......LOL

I can post videos if you want.  Wink
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Reply #34 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 10:07pm  
Iran's been wanting an ass kickin for thirty years.

Dont worry we couldn't do it if we wanted to. We have no military.
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #35 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 10:14pm  
Haha.  Yes, I have a life.  Otherwise I'd be dead, duh!  Tongue  I'm doing school online so I spend a lot of time online and often find myself wandering around online.  I actually should be working on it atm, but you're distracting me! lol

You don't have to convince me that I don't think Obama has all the qualifications to be President.  But I also don't disagree with everything he says.  And I also think we'd be better off with him than McCain or Palin in office.  If this were 2000 and he had a different VP pick than Palin, I'd probably vote for McCain.  As it stands right now, the person he is right now and has been for the past 8 years and with Palin on the ticket, I wouldn't vote for him if he were the only candidate on the ballot.  Does that mean I'm voting for Obama?  No.  Does that mean I want Obama in office?  Not necessarily, I'd much rather see him in office than McCain.
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Reply #36 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 10:28pm  
Audre wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 7:56pm:
 She wants to have a Federal bill banning gay marriages, completely taking away that power to the States to decide.  


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Hmmmmmmm Wink

What is the last thing they BOTH said?

Neither agrees on gays being married, right?

Wink

"but you're distracting me!"

She wants me!.....LOL  Kiss

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Hmmmmmmm Wink

What is the last thing they BOTH said?

Neither agrees on gays being married, right?

Wink   



I don't remember where it was I saw it, but it was just recently within the last couple days that she said it.

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"but you're distracting me!"

She wants me!.....LOL  Kiss   


Definitely!!  If you could see my dreams you'd blush.   Embarrassed

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Hahahaha  "he was ridin' dirty!"   Shocked
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #38 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 8:08am  
Charlie wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 8:38pm:
"nuculur."





Miss Alaska Pageant


Palin:  To make world peace, I'd like to make nuculur weapons become future energy and medicine for the benefit of all the people of the world to share.



judge 1:  Ok, what have we got here, she's got the poise but this "nuculur" thing, are we voting for a ditz?

judge 4:  It could sound folksy, borders on yahoo but still cute.  Are we for or agin?

judge 3:  This is a beauty pageant, I say it's too inappropriate, like she was schooled in a closet.  If she was running for president it'd be different but we have standards to keep here.

judge 2:  Ya know, Ike pronounced it that way, even Ed Teller.  It could be a throwback to the fifties and have a household hominess to it.

judge 5:  Ike learned the word late in life, if she was from Hungary and figures out thermonuclear fusion it could be eccentric, but I don't even think Alaskans have a distinctive accent to pin it on.

judge 4:  You mean like Jimmy Carter's Georgia take on the word? Nobody will buy that in Alaska, just doesn't fit.

judge 1:  Ok, so what we have here is that nuculur is liklier to be pricklier to the ear but maybe catchy-cute enough to still be used to distract without any real solutions to the issue while wearing smart-looking glasses.  She stretches our pageant standards and got little support for Miss Congeniality but with a placing here she could be noticed enough to shove her into politics and we'll look good.  I say a runner-up.

judges 2-4:  Yay.

judge 5:  But what if there comes a time when we'll have to vote on her again, possibly a president?

judge 2:  Ah, who would want to test a green president.  If she were a hockey-mom and shot a moose or something, I'm sure other countries would have second thoughts.  With only one electoral vote in Alaska we either made it count or shouldn't be held responsible, it's a win-win.



call in viewer, Jonny:   If she was Mrs. King, she can say nuculur all night!       Wink
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #39 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 8:36am  
Experience?  What EXPERIENCE did JFK have? He was a short term Senator. Ok, he'd been in WW11 and was a "hero" - he SAVED some lives during that war by a heroic action (PT-109 in case you've forgotten). He was a LAWYER and graduated at the top of his class. He was "cool" under pressure.

He was confronted with the Cuban missle crisis right off the bat. He let Russia BLINK first and disaster was avoided. He stayed cool under pressure. He had no experience - he just stayed cool under pressure and did the "right" thing.

Vietnam was "smoldering" during this time, but after JFK was killed, his VP, Johnson (with years and years of EXPERIENCE) got that off to a BIG shooting war and it was a TOTAL disaster. It changed our world as we knew it. That's what EXPERIENCE did for us.

Now as far as the war hero stuff, when JFK was running, the guys from the PT-109 were right there "telling" what he did for them (swam thru shark infested waters to drag them to safety). My question - where are McCain's fellow POWs? Weren't five other guys captured at the same time? I've heard this question raised several times at the VA hospital by Vietnam vets (some of whom were "spit" on when they returned from duty there and called "baby killers").

I think what Biden meant was that the next President will be inheriting is two wars, a horrible economy (recession and maybe a depression), the whole world against us (in my way of thinking it's time for some diplomatic "talking" to anyone who's still speaking to us), a possible "new" Civil Rights movement to make the last one look tame and about a thousand other problems. I'd say it's pretty certain within 6 months things are not going to be very rosey.

What Obama said about going thru the budget and cutting programs that aren't working made sense to me (cut "down" the size of government maybe?) and put some of the money into the programs that ARE working (maybe Medicare?).

One TV reporter did a thingy the other night after going to a memorial for a teacher (deceased). Apparently this teacher brought in "unknown" people to speak to his government class thru the years. In 1991 he brought in a 3rd year law student - the reporter gave some exerpts from this student's speech. Yep, it was Obama and the exerpts from that speech were about the same thing he's saying on the campaign trail today. His "views" for the future of the US. I thought that was interesting.

And even as late as this morning, one of McCain's biggest supporters (Don Imus) is having doubts about McCain's honesty after an interview with him about 6 a.m. Imus asked him about Palin not knowing what newspapers she read - McCain's answer - "Most people get their news online and don't read papers anymore." He even told Imus he was avoiding his direct questions.  Straight Talk?

My opinion is that as long as the President surrounds himself/herself with people who KNOW more than he/she does and LISTENS to them - experience is NOT the most important thing he/she needs. The ability to LISTEN, ANALYZE the INFORMATION with a COOL head and MAKE an INFORMED DECISION is. Then if you're wrong, figure out a way to make it right - don't just keep beating a dead horse.

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Reply #40 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 8:51am  
May I just say that it seems very shallow to find fault in someone for how they pronounce words.  There is a part of the country which pronounces "aunt" the same as "ant".  Some say "walmarts" when talking about "Walmart".  There are a ton of words people who are very intelligent mispronounce based on where they live.
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Reply #41 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 9:07am  
WTF??  I asked a simple question about WTF Biden meant and people are defending the quesiton with answers about Palin?

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Reply #42 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 9:16am  
FramCire wrote on Oct 22nd, 2008 at 8:51am:
...very shallow to find fault in someone for how they pronounce words.  There is a part of the country...


Seems a word that's being pronounced that way by choice.  Despite having addressed dialect, don't seem part of the country that uses it?  

Doesn't bother me.  Depends if Marilyn Monroe had sung, "happy birfday Mr. President," would have gotten a satirical remark from Groucho, but he'd still raise his eyebrows somehow I'd bet.   Smiley
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Reply #43 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 9:30am  
Melissa wrote on Oct 20th, 2008 at 11:22pm:
I don't get it. Undecided


Melissa wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 11:25am:
Bill, thanks for your explanations.  



Sorry Mel, figured it was asked and answered.  I usually wait patiently for a thread before not making any sense with the endtrails.   Wink
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Reply #44 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 9:39am  
Kevin_M wrote on Oct 22nd, 2008 at 9:30am:
Melissa wrote on Oct 20th, 2008 at 11:22pm:
I don't get it. Undecided


Melissa wrote on Oct 21st, 2008 at 11:25am:
Bill, thanks for your explanations.  



Sorry Mel, figured it was asked and answered.  I usually wait patiently for a thread before not making any sense with the endtrails.   Wink

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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #46 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 10:22am  
Melissa: I think you are seeing the interesting way things work in politics.  Ask a question and both sides go off and answer the question they think you want to hear.

Biden ALWAYS opens his mouth and whatever comes out or in (his foot) doesn't seem to bother him.  People on the left side take statements like this and say "At least he's not Palin".   Those on the right say "at least she's not Biden".  The answer to your question is that Biden thinks he needs to prepare the American voters for the disappointments we will see when Obama wins.  He knows Obama is slick and has sold Americans to a group of promises, many of which he wont be able to keep.  So Biden is setting up a defense for re-election before they are even elected.

I wish we could put both candidates on the TV Show "moment of Truth" and find out if they EVER tell the truth.

In the end, I think it is interesting how the Dems have sold so many people on Palin and Mccains faults that Obama anf Boiden also have but the Dems have foudn a way to make people ignore their problems.
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—Pronunciation note In pronouncing nuclear, the second and third syllables are most commonly said as      /-kliər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[-klee-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, a sequence of sounds that directly reflects the spelled sequence ‑cle·ar. In recent years, a somewhat controversial pronunciation has come to public attention, with these two final syllables said as      /-kyələr/[-kyuh-ler]. Since      /-kliər/[-klee-er], the common pronunciation of ‑cle·ar, might also be represented, broadly, as      /-kləyər/[-kluh-yer], the      /-kyələr/[-kyuh-ler] pronunciation can be seen as coming from a process of metathesis, in which the /l/[l] and the /y/[y] change places. The resulting pronunciation is reinforced by analogy with such words as molecular, particular, and muscular, and although it occurs with some frequency among highly educated speakers, including scientists, professors, and government officials, it is disapproved of by many.
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Reply #48 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 10:53am  
FramCire wrote on Oct 22nd, 2008 at 10:22am:
In the end, I think it is interesting how the Dems have sold so many people on Palin and Mccains faults that Obama and Boiden also have but the Dems have found a way to make people ignore their problems.

I can answer that in one word... Bush.

But as I've said before, McCain is not Bush.  Even McCain has said it.  But they throw back the whole "McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time".  Ok then, 90% on WHAT???  Which policies??  THAT is what needs to be answered, but just like lawyers, they quite manipulative.  (sorry, I don't trust lawyers)

BTW, I think one thing that is driving dems NUTS this year, is why there are so many hold outs.  If McCain is basically Bush, then why is there reasonable doubt?? Wink

Either way, for me, I am SOOOO entertaining the idea of going off the radar with a liberal filibuster proof congress/senate.  I do not believe in big government, I think there are a ton of programs that need to be abolished as they are not serving Americans well, such as the Federal Reserve, the FDA, the Dept. of Education, the IRS, etc.  I believe many of our problems can be solved through our State governments as well as non-profits.  The federal government has screwed so much up with our tax payer funds that I do not trust them at ALL.  

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What does this have to do with Biden?  Nothing!  Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

BTW, Palin's a moron!  But you know what?  I'm more scared of the democratic party than her!
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Re: Ok, WHAT did Biden mean by this? (political)
Reply #49 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 11:06am  
Mel, you really think the FDA should be disbanded?

The private sector will run their own quality controls and stuff?
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