Anyone who's been in the service has one or two old "army (insert branch of service here) buddies" they keep up with over the years. (I know I still keep up with a few (calls a few times a year - e-mails, etc).

When JKF ran for office, his PT-109 buddies were the first ones to step up to the plate to campaign for him and tell what a "hero" he was.

My question is -- where are McCain's buddies? We hear about him being a hero, but we don't hear about any "acts" of heroism.

I'm not knocking his service (and don't mean to start a row here) but I just know a lot of vets that are questioning this. They're saying they served (and a lot of them have the purple hearts to prove it). But when they returned, instead of coming home heros they were spit on and called "baby killers" for their service.

Over the past several years I've spent a lot of time at the VA hospital and have met a lot of Vietnam vets. Some with missing limbs and some really messed up. These guys were the ones fighting in the jungles (for whatever reason we had for being there). They came home - not as heros, but as the wounded (casualties of war) and are just NOW getting the treatment they need (it's only taken about 40 years to figure out they had problems).

Guess I just think too much...

Hugs BD

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Like most of us, people from our past have different memories.  Some that went through that experience never want to remember.  I believe the reason you don't see them paraded in front of the press is because that's not John's way.  He would never exploit them for political gain.

Vote for him or not ... the man has character.

-Dennis-

Utterly

Fucking

Speechless

Due to his fathers position in the military the North Vietnamese were going to release him. He decided to stay there with his fellow POW's until the war was over. He chose confinement over freedom. Is that act of heroism enough?

You have to keep in mind just where you would hear from those guys too Barb. CNN? MSNBC? NYT? They aren't going to report that....they are to busy kissing Obama's ass and reporting on Palins shoes.

I was NOT saying he wasn't a hero - I just asked a damn question. And WHY weren't those OTHERS who endured as much or MORE deemed heros also.

In my opinion anyone who went to Vietnam is a hero and should be deemed as such. I promise I NEVER spit on a soldier in my life....

John McCain had a coupleof men he was in the POW camp with speak about him at the convention and before.  You also have to remember that most of the time he was in the POW cages he was in solitary.  He had no "Army" buddies over there.  I remember a couple of the men talking about the times he was brought back from torture and he would give them a thumbs up sign, and was punished for it.  They werer not allowed to speak.

My best friend is a 26 yr veteran of the Marine Corps, and only got out because he was medically retired as a result of wounds suffered in Viet Nam.  He was awarded the Bronze Star, the Bronze Star with V for Valor, the Silver Star, each time for doing something to rescue another Marine under fire.  He knows what heroism is, but WILL NOT talk about it.  He has friends that he still keeps in contact with, but for the most part tries to put it all behind him.  BTW, he is supporting McCain, not because he believes in all of his political views, but because of CHARACTER.

You can always borrow brains, but you cannot borrow character.

Jerry

I was saying to my husband that John McCain is such a soft spoken man.  He pointed out that his nature is likely due to his torture in Vietnam.  He was listening to a radio program and the host was commenting that McCain seemed to not ever "get tough" with Obamo at the debates and that it too may have been due to being conditioned not to cause confrontation. 

I think that ALL of those that serve in our military are heroes.  Especially POWs.   I KNOW that I could not have endured what McCain went through.  I am not a politically smart person but if loyalty and courage and love of country were prerequisites to be President, John McCain certainly qualifies in my book.  I believe that he is a man of character....like him or not.   

Jeannie

Jeannie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 12:06pm:


They should be............. pretty sad that they're not.

Let's not go overboard.  The question was offensive, but I'd stop short of calling Barb a fucking idiot.  We're all in this together.

I don't think he called Barb an idiot Shawn.  He was using one offensive question as an example of another offensive one.

Am I the only one who wonders why people can't just answer her question without taking offense to it?  It was a freaking question and was answered very very well but there was no reason to go nuts.

Maybe I am not one who reads into things enough, but I took the question at face value and thought those that answered the question instead of taking offense did a good job.

I have always liked McCain and respected him for serving this country with honor.  I will be voting for him for that reason and also because I would rather McCain with a Democrat congress than a total Democrat control of government.

Anyway... the answer to the question is simple.... there are people willing to speak up for McCain but they just don't tend to make it on the news for 2 reasons (media bias and the fact McCain isn't looking to exploit it).