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Nov 1st, 2008 at 3:00am
 
Interesting Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register from the Independent newspaper of Oct. 7. I know the "ClusterBusters treatment" has been around for a few years, but this article gives a good introduction on how it originated, the status of above-ground medical research, and why it just might work for some people.

I'm not advocating anyone commit any crime or do anything against medical advice. But I am always interested in any possible treatment that might offer hope of relief for those of us who suffer with this monster. I hope you find this article as fascinating as I did.

-- Keith



LSD cured my headache


Cluster headaches cause such severe pain that some sufferers are driven to suicide.
Now one man believes he's found a surprising cure.


By Arran Frood

Tuesday, 7 October 2008


This the story of a man known online as Flash – a man driven to the brink of suicide by the debilitating effects of cluster headaches. After years of ineffectual treatments, Flash stumbled on what he declared was a new treatment, as controversial as it was, he claimed, effective: hallucinogenic drugs.

Flash was ridiculed by the cluster headache community for his "miracle cure". But when a survey of fellow sufferers who self-medicated with hallucinogens was published in the mainstream journal Neurology, the results gave weight to his claims. The Harvard Medical School scientists who conducted the survey have now applied for a preliminary clinical trial on the subject.

Cluster headache (CH) remains an enigma to the medical profession. First chronicled in 1745, and frequently misdiagnosed as migraine, the condition is hardly a household name. Yet cluster headache affects as many as one in a thousand people – 60,000 people in the UK alone, almost matching the prevalence of cystic fibrosis.

Diagnosis of the condition is hampered by the fact that there are two forms: episodic and chronic. Sufferers of episodic CH are struck by headaches for one or two months of the year, often when the seasons change; the attacks can arrive at the same time each day and night. The symptoms then die down for up to 11 months before the cycle starts again.

Sufferers of chronic CH, however, enjoy no respite at all. They are plagued by up to nine attacks per day, every day; untreated, each attack can last up to two hours.

CH is characterised by a pain so severe that it makes the most debilitating migraine look like a mild hangover. Many chronic CH sufferers eventually take their own lives – earning CH the gruesome moniker "suicide headaches". Flash says the pain is virtually indescribable. "You go through a point when it's too sore to scream and all you can do is whimper, begging God over and over and over again. I've fantasised about blowing my brains out so many times you wouldn't believe it."

There are about four times as many men CH sufferers as women; attacks often begin in the late teens or early 20s. Flash's story began in 1986, when he was a teenager. "Because I'm an episodic sufferer, I didn't always associate this year's attacks with last year's," he says.

After three years of fruitless visits to his local GP, Flash self-diagnosed his condition, as do many new cases. "My doctor didn't have a clue. He said I was grinding my teeth, or it was my sinuses. I was worried I had a brain tumour, so I got a book out about the brain. I looked at migraine, and cluster headache was on the next page. I took the book to the doc and he agreed it might be what I had."

Unfortunately, the diagnosis did not lead to an effective treatment, because there are no drugs developed specifically for CH. Instead, a cocktail – conventional painkillers, migraine drugs, beta-blockers, even antidepressant medication such as lithium – fills the vacuum. "My doctor did the worst thing you can do to a person with cluster headache: he put me on normal analgesics. Aspirin, paracetamol, codeine – doubling up on the codeine – taking whatever you're allowed to each day," Flash says. "It took the lining off my stomach, and it aggravated the attacks until they got out of control."

Next, they tried beta-blockers, as well as heart drugs designed to lower blood pressure. But severe brachycardia, a slowing of the heartbeat, began to accompany Flash's headaches; during one rush to A&E, his heart rate fell to 30 beats per minute. The beta-blockers were replaced with amitriptyline, an older generation tricyclic antidepressant. "It didn't do much except give me a dry mouth and make me look psychotic."

Neither Flash nor his doctor knew at the time that many CH sufferers swear the best way to abort an attack is to inhale pure oxygen. Instead, with no effective treatment, the cluster headaches began to destroy Flash's life. "If you are an episodic sufferer you get months of a perfectly normal life: college, girlfriend, job. Then – wallop – you have to say goodbye to the lot."

Turning on, tuning in, and dropping out (of university),Flash experimented with the powerful hallucinogenic drug LSD ("The best and worst eight hours of my life"). His next cluster attack, due in January 1992, never materialised. "In my naivety, I thought, 'It's just gone away.' But cluster headache doesn't just go away." Not stopping to question his good fortune, Flash finished his degree, got a new girlfriend and started his own business. Free of the headaches for more than two years, life was good.

But in the autumn of 1995, Flash got the first harbingers that a new episode was on the way – clusterheads call them "shadows". So he drew up a battle plan. "There was no way I was going down without a fight. I made a list of everything I'd done differently in 1993 and 1994... and one thing stood out. It was the acid."

He read online that LSD had been used in the 1960s as a treatment for migraine. But he had severed his ties with the underworld, and had no way of getting any LSD to test his theory. What he did have access to were wild-growing magic mushrooms. Thinking that these contained LSD (they in fact contain psilocybin, a chemical cousin), Flash settled down for a psychedelic night on the sofa with some friends. "It was 50 per cent recreational and 50 per cent theoretical," he says. "I was desperate."

He was thrilled to find that the "shadows" evaporated – and stayed away. He began taking a light, sub-hallucinogenic dose of 12 to 20 mushrooms approximately once every three months, and found that he remained symptom-free for nearly a year. "I started to tell people about it," he says, "but they thought I was mad."

He decided to do another test. Clusterheads say never to drink alcohol during an episode, because it can trigger an even more crippling attack. "I got a glass of whisky and made the mushroom tea," Flash says. "I necked the alcohol, then I drank the tea. The cluster attack came on full force and lasted 10 minutes, before it went 'pop' and was gone... That was one of the best moments of my life. I'd kicked its arse, properly".

Flash described his tests at clusterheadaches.com, a forum for CH sufferers. But the community is awash with folk remedies. "There are people pushing jalapeno peppers up their nose, trying to deaden the trigeminal nerve [the physical cause of the pain]," Flash says. He was accused of being a snake-oil salesman. "How dare you try to get people hooked on drugs, you junkie scum," he recalls being told.

Behind the apparent idiocy of the theory lay some solid, if not fully understood, science. Psilocybin and LSD are chemicals called tryptamines, like neurotransmitters such as serotonin; they bind to nerves in the same way. Indeed, arguably the most effective migraine drug, sumatriptan (Imitrex, or Imigran), which can also abort CH attacks, is chemically very similar to DMT, a hallucinogen found in plants native to South America. Similarly, the anti-migraine drug methysergide is based on the LSD molecule, but with virtually no hallucinogenic properties, though it can cause severe fibrosis.

A handful of CH sufferers thought there was truth in Flash's unorthodox solution. One man, Bob Wold, decided to start clusterbusters.com, a website devoted to campaigning for research and disseminating information about how to safely use hallucinogenics.

Anecdotal reports of the clusterheads' use of hallucinogens attracted the interest of John Halpern of Harvard Medical School in Massachusetts. Spurred on by the suicide of a colleague who suffered from CH, Halpern and colleague Andrew Sewell interviewed 53 people who had self-medicated with the hallucinogen therapy. The survey results suggested that there was something to Flash's idea after all. The pair published their results in the respected journal Neurology, and Halpern has now submitted a protocol for a Phase-I clinical trial to the university's Institutional Review Board.

"It is a life-or-death situation for some of these patients," Halpern says. "A number of neurologists would express interest [in the subject] and then walk away due to the complications with doing research with Schedule-I substances," drugs classified in the US as having high potential for abuse. But Halpern is also conducting a study at Harvard into the therapeutic effects of MDMA on anxiety in terminal cancer patients, and already had permission to use Schedule-I substances; he decided to pursue the matter himself.

"The benefits clearly outweigh the risks," says Halpern. "This is a seriously debilitating condition... Your jaw drops at what people go through, the torture they go through just to get properly diagnosed. Many people do OK using conventional medication, but we have a moral obligation to those people that are treatment-resistant."

There are serious obstacles to psychedelics ever becoming legitimate medicines. Taking the drugs over a long time can pose a real risk to mental well-being, such as triggering psychosis. Distributing the drugs could also prove difficult, though in the US there are systems to administer some abusable drugs – including GHB (gamma-hydroxybutyric acid), a treatment for narcolepsy – to registered users.

The largest obstacle might be getting the pharmaceutical companies on board. The patient population is relatively small, and psilocybin and LSD are not patentable. Besides, according to IMS Health data, annual sales of sumatriptan succinate tablets in the US over 2006/07 were $950m. Why spend millions developing a risky drug with a poor reputation that would negate the need for regular purchases?

Some leading neurologists still doubt that the technique has potential; to many in the CH community, however, Flash is a hero. But for now, like many of his fellow self-medicators, he chooses to remain anonymous, fearful that his exploits with drugs might stigmatise him in the business community, where he is co-director of a company with over 100 employees."Some people think that this cure is not palatable," he says. "But I don't think you get multiple chances with something like this. This is the best treatment we have."

Headaches from hell


Cluster headaches are a rare and severe form of headache, affecting around one in a thousand people.

There are two forms of cluster headache: episodic, which affects 90 per cent of sufferers, and chronic.

Episodic cluster headaches occur once or twice daily throughout active periods, but then not at all during the weeks, months or years between those periods. Sufferers of chronic cluster headaches endure up to nine attacks each day.

The pain is centred around the eye socket and temple, and is so severe that the neurological disease is sometimes known as "suicide headaches", because many chronic sufferers eventually kill themselves. The condition has also been dubbed "alarm clock headaches" because of the precise regularity of attacks.

The causes are unknown, and treatment varies widely according to the patient. Over-the-counter painkillers are ineffective. Methods that have worked for some people include hot showers, caffeine, drinking lots of water, vigorous exercise, and even orgasm.

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Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2008 at 11:26pm
 
LSD has helped others as well. Where ya at johnny???
good to post it though.
LSD isn't the first thing on my list We are starburst we are golden. It is on my list, it's just a matter of how much pain. Definately before any surgical procedure.
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Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2008 at 11:53pm
 
Very good read! I wish we were back in the 80’s when you could just go down to the park and try it. I have found nothing that will break me out of this crap for 5+ years of chronic daily O2 consumption.

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Reply #3 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:17am
 
Some clusterheads have reported similar success with seeds containing ergoloids including lysergic acid amide (LSA), a chemical cousin of LSD with less pronounced "psychedelic" effects. These seeds include morning glories, Hawaiian baby woodrose and rivea corymbosa. All of these are grown widely as ornamental plants, so the seeds are legal to sell and to possess.

However, these seeds are not legally sold for human consumption. Most sellers include a winking disclaimer (like the head shops who sell smoking paraphernalia "for tobacco use only"). You can find LSA-containing seeds readily from botanical and "shaman supply" companies on the Internet and on eBay.

Large-scale commercial seed companies often treat these seeds with noxious substances to discourage people from eating them. So the word "untreated" in a product description offers reassurance to "gardeners" who buy more seeds than they intend to plant.

Of the LSA-containing seeds, rivea corymbosa appears to have the least potential for side effects such as nausea and vomiting. Used ceremonially and medicinally for centuries in Latin America -- the natives called it ololiuhqui or "round thing" -- these seeds are reportedly better when consumed fresh. They appear to undergo a noticeable loss in potency within months of storage.

I have read that 5-10 ololiuhqui seeds is a good "starter" dose for interrupting a cluster cycle. At these doses, many users report no noticeable psychoactive effects whatsoever. The seeds, which are about the size of a coriander seed, are typically crushed or ground in a coffee grinder, then soaked in water before consuming.

Clusterheads who use this treatment say it is best to abstain from triptans and ergot-derived drugs for a few days before taking ololiuhqui, to maximize the benefit and to reduce the possibility of any undesirable drug interaction.

A "full dose" is reportedly 40-50 seeds, but I have read accounts of people taking as many as 100 seeds at a time. At higher doses the chances of side effects and having an "unpleasant experience" increase.

The effects of ololiuhqui are reportedly mild, especially at very low doses. Unlike most psychedelics, ololiuhqui has a reputation for being mildly sedating rather than stimulating. "Recreational" users typically report an elevation of mood, brightening of colors, and a sense of tranquility that lasts four to six hours. Clusterheads who use ololiuhqui as a treatment have reported pain-free remissions lasting anywhere from several days to several weeks.

Dr. Andrew Sewell at Yale hopes to soon begin research into the use of LSA-containing seeds for the treatment of clusters. I will be interested to see what knowledge further scientific study yields. However, since these seeds are so cheap and are legal to possess, I have been thinking about testing them myself. From everything I have read, I don't think they'll hurt anything, and they just might help.

Anyone here have any experience?
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Reply #4 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 9:36am
 
hello, im Bill from Cleveland. i am a eposodic suffer every 2 years as the time zone changes i get blasted again. They start at night every 3rd or 4th night i get a kip6 that as the weeks pass turn right into kip 8-9. Then they tend to progress into daytime hits makeing my life almost a living hell for 2 mobths. after my last cycle would not let me go, i started looking into anything that would help. i was still in the mist of a long cycle when i learned about RC seeds. after nervously prepareing 25 seeds i drank the tea and found no effects at all other than the persistent shadows were gone. that night i slept like a baby for the 1st time in months, and when i woke up the ch was gone. about 8 weeks later i got a solo hit and quickly did another 25 seeds to stop any chance of do over by the beast. i can say beyond all doubt the seeds ended my cycle, and as i do a every 2 month dose the solo hits have not returned at all. If this treatment fails me as so many have done in the past it is fair to say i will try other clusterbusters methods before the convental meds. thanks for reading. Coach bill
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Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 9:50am
 
Keith Lee wrote on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:17am:
Anyone here have any experience?



Yes! Look here, and ignore the BS.  Smiley

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I'm soaking some seeds now. They  have helped me immensely. Shocked
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Reply #8 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 10:35pm
 
Me too. But don't tell anybody I said so. I'm trying to keep up the pretense of being "objective" and "neutral" here.

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Reply #9 - Nov 3rd, 2008 at 9:46am
 
I have had a couple of "solo" hits recently but when I take my old standby rhodiola, a type of ginseng, they stayed solo. Perhaps rhodiola, dug from Mother Earth, has some of the same properties as seeds. (There is a detailed report on rhodiola in Wikipedia.) Maybe this is just a quiet period for me --but I won't be afraid to post personal details as they come to light...
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Funny man Keith. You know you can be objective and treat with alternatives. Grin Grin I still have Imitrex and prednisone just in case.
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Oh, I stockpile Imitrex too. Can't ever have too many options ...
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LSD has helped others as well. Where ya at johnny???
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LSD isn't the first thing on my list We are starburst we are golden. It is on my list, it's just a matter of how much pain. Definately before any surgical procedure.
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right here buddy. yeah it definatly works. whemyour under the influance so to speak it'cs like/your bullitproof. it's awsome feeling to know that for at  least 14 hours your not going to get hit. last time i did it i opened up the console and spun some old lps and hung out with my son. it was a far site cheaper than dicking around with doctors and meds, and allot more fun Wink
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-johnny- wrote on Nov 12th, 2008 at 1:46am:
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LSD has helped others as well. Where ya at johnny???
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LSD isn't the first thing on my list We are starburst we are golden. It is on my list, it's just a matter of how much pain. Definately before any surgical procedure.
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right here buddy. yeah it definatly works. whemyour under the influance so to speak it'cs like/your bullitproof. it's awsome feeling to know that for at  least 14 hours your not going to get hit. last time i did it i opened up the console and spun some old lps and hung out with my son. it was a far site cheaper than dicking around with doctors and meds, and allot more fun Wink



Is this leading to something beneficial or is it tripping to the oldies?

I have done a lot of window pane in my day and I just wonder if you are getting any extended time of relief from it or just 14 hours of fun?

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Acid cured me from doin acid ever again.

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LSD has helped others as well. Where ya at johnny???
good to post it though.
LSD isn't the first thing on my list We are starburst we are golden. It is on my list, it's just a matter of how much pain. Definately before any surgical procedure.
MAPS.org Cool
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right here buddy. yeah it definatly works. whemyour under the influance so to speak it'cs like/your bullitproof. it's awsome feeling to know that for at  least 14 hours your not going to get hit. last time i did it i opened up the console and spun some old lps and hung out with my son. it was a far site cheaper than dicking around with doctors and meds, and allot more fun Wink



Is this leading to something beneficial or is it tripping to the oldies?

I have done a lot of window pane in my day and I just wonder if you are getting any extended time of relief from it or just 14 hours of fun?

Rolo…

when i dosed that time i was getting some real screamers. i was getting hit hard and frequently. i was to the point were my sanity was slipping away. the following day i got hit with 3 kip9s lasting 45 minutes in duration with about 20 minutes of relief in between. the remainder of that day i had a steady kip2. the days after the intensity and frequency tapered  off. after 10 days i was getting a few good migraines. after 14 days i was back to normal. i took the acid because i was in extreme pain and i was very desperate. tripping to the oldies was just a bonus.
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Reply #16 - Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:14pm
 
A cousin of LSD from what my hubby says  - Ergot - the mold from grains that sent many a "witch" to the gallows in the 16th century when people ate molded breads and got high and accussed townspeople of witchcraft - has been modified and is being used in the form of ergotamine and dihydroergotamine. No cure but lots of relief.
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webgopher wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:14pm:
A cousin of LSD from what my hubby says  - Ergot - the mold from grains that sent many a "witch" to the gallows in the 16th century when people ate molded breads and got high and accussed townspeople of witchcraft - has been modified and is being used in the form of ergotamine and dihydroergotamine. No cure but lots of relief.

i thought ergot had something to do with mushrooms.
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Reply #18 - Jan 6th, 2009 at 9:45pm
 
As far as the Witch Trials...

There was ergot in the grain to make the bread.  It was a microscopic fungus between the hull and the meaty grain.

Mushrooms are also a fungus.  The RC and Hawiian Baby Wood rose seeds as well as some strains of Morning Glory seeds also have that ergot fungus between the hull and the meaty part of the seed.

All the forms of these ergot alcholoids (if my memory serves me correctly) is that the active molecules are indol-rings that are effective and attach to the same seritonin reseptors in the brain that such triptan medications such as Imitrex attach to to ease our pain.

If I'm wrong someone will come along to correct me.  PinkFloyd?  Do I have my information correct?

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Reply #19 - Jan 6th, 2009 at 11:17pm
 
A lot of the "psychedelics" have the indole-ring structure: LSD, LSA, ergot, psilocybin, psilocin, and several others....and also methysergide and DHEA, which are validated treatments for CH.  (see Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; for the poster from the conference.)  Be careful, though- not all psychedelics act on the same neurotransmitters; salvia, for example, is chemically completely different and won't work.

When I first found out about mushrooms, in the middle of a heavy cycle, I didn't know that my zoloft would counterract it, and it did nothing.  But when I detoxed and tried again, I went several weeks PF; then they crept back.

I was told that I needed to do it several times to "break" a cycle- so I next went with 40 RC seeds, and was PF for 3 days; then the next weekend I went up to 60 seeds, and that knocked them out for another two weeks.  It still came back, but I was very moody being off of my zoloft and it did "weaken" it, so I went with other comventional treatments for the rest of the cycle.

I did notice, however, that while I didn't have any "effects" on the seeds, I was SEVERELY depressed the following day, both times.  Anyone else?  (that also made me balk at a third attempt.)   Tongue
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UnderTheRadar wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 11:17pm:
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I did notice, however, that while I didn't have any "effects" on the seeds, I was SEVERELY depressed the following day, both times.  Anyone else?  (that also made me balk at a third attempt.)   Tongue


I have the 4 foot by 5 foot original hanging on my office wall. Wink

I take it you were off the Zoloft when you took the seeds? Might be the reason for the deepened depression?

If you are taking zoloft for reasons other than headache control, such as depression, it isn't wise to use psychedelics. Quickly stopping an anitdepressant and using psychedelics will likely increase depression.
All psychedelics will enhance whatever mental state you are in.
There are BIG warnings listed on the Clusterbuster site about who should and who shouldn't be using psychedelics.
These warnings apply whether or not you are currently using other mood altering drugs.

I'm glad you didn't try them a third time. Good call.
Hopefully soon, we may have something else for you and others in the same boat, to try.  Wink

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P.S. Yes Redd, you were pretty good in your explanation. The seeds do contain ergot alkaloids. Ergot is what lead Dr. Hofmann to LSD when he was searching for new headache treatments, and other things, for Sandoz.
P.P.S. it is now believed by many that it was the "witches" that had eaten ergot-ridden bread which caused hallucinations and visions. Not the townspeople that hung them. Had the townspeople eaten the bread, the last thing they would have wanted to do would be hang someone. The witches should have broken bread with the town elders. Halloween would be a lot different these days.
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I'm a little complicated; I was diagnosed severely ADD and (probably as a result) depressed and anxious many years back, but the doc just wanted to treat the anxiety with zoloft since I wasn't in school...

Now I've gone back to school, my new doc put me on meds for the ADD, and- WHADDAYAKNOW- the anxiety has gone away!!

We were in the process of getting rid of the zoloft when I got the CH diagnosis this fall, so I was still on 50mg a day when I first tried mushrooms...nothing happened.

So then I detoxed for 2 weeks, tried mushies again- had a GREAT experience-and was PF for 2 weeks...after that, I tried RC seeds 2 more times, and it was after the seeds that I got depressed for a day; but they did cut the pain, too.

It's funny, but the only time in my life that I remember not having migraines was the few years in college many moons ago when I was doing mushies about once a year (before I ever got on zoloft.)  The have ALWAYS been a wonderful experience;  I have great energy, clarity of thought, freedom from anxiety and balance of mood for a long time aftarwards.  There's my two cents!  God bless CB!  Wink
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Re: "LSD Cured My Headache" (London Independent)
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Linda_Howell wrote on Jan 7th, 2009 at 12:26am:
LMAOROTF...Bob, have I told you lately that I love ya?  

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No, but it's always nice to hear Linda. The feelings mutual.  Kiss

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Reply #24 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 12:36am
 
UnderTheRadar wrote on Jan 7th, 2009 at 12:32am:
It's funny, but the only time in my life that I remember not having migraines was the few years in college many moons ago when I was doing mushies about once a year


If I had a quarter for evey time I've heard that, I could fund an awful lot of research.
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