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Reply #25 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 9:30pm

Here is a guy that won the election and chose one of my favorite Democrats for a running mate. I'd have voted for Biden any day. Give this guy a chance. When he looks cross-eyed at one of you, have your fun.

Never has it been so well demonstated that you have the right to vote the bums out. You'll also find that Obama will be more centrist that expected.

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Reply #26 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 9:34pm

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Im not looking at black, white, red or blue when I vote. Im looking at the future of this country and how safe it will be.

Too bad other folks dont think that way!

I go by the man and his words.

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Watch it to the end!

You should look into what is really going on in these other countries because a lot of those were out of context. Our government and our media don't report what all we do to these countries and if they do, they twist it around so everyone else is the bad bad guys. Not saying they're always innocent, but people need to look more into what is really going on.

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Reply #27 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 9:41pm

Audre wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 9:34pm:

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Im not looking at black, white, red or blue when I vote. Im looking at the future of this country and how safe it will be.

Too bad other folks dont think that way!

I go by the man and his words.

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our media don't report

LMMFAO.....That you use those words in this election......ROTMFFLMMFAO!!!!! Grin

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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #28 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:06pm

I know, our media didn't report on a lot of things on both sides. But I'm not talking just elections, I'm talking our foreign relationship and why these countries seem to be so pissed off at us. Since we don't get the full story, many are quick to say these countries are terrorists or possible threats, while we're over there egging them on, trying to get them pissed at us.

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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #29 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:24pm

We aren't that bad......geeze. Cool

I spent some time tonight watching C-SPAN foreign newscasts....two of them state-controlled....reacting to the election and also about our relationships. Aside from Russia and Venezuela, we're pretty well thought of but Europe and some others will be happy when they don't have to deal with Bush. He did blow a historic chance for international good will and cooperation after 9-11.

One thing though is that while they are telling us how great it is that we pleased them with the election; they aren't looking at themselves. None of these large western countries has done anything close to what we did on Tuesday.

We're doing just fine.

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Jonny Ex Member	Re: A Powerful Moment Reply #30 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:27pm Audre wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:06pm: I know, our media didn't report on a lot of things on both sides. Both sides?........LMMFAO....Your delusional!
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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #31 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:47pm

Melissa wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 8:26pm:

Even though I did not vote for Obama, this made me tear up...

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Melo.. thank you for posting this - this is a great characterization of what is being felt in hearts and minds of so many. This city is pulsating here.

My child, many years after myself as a child, finds the meaning resonates with her, here and now.

Here is the full text of the real and eloquent Maya Angelou.

Still I Rise

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
'Cause I walk like I've got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.

Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I'll rise.

Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops.
Weakened by my soulful cries.

Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don't you take it awful hard
'Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines
Diggin' in my own back yard.

You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I'll rise.

Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I've got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?

Out of the huts of history's shame
I rise
Up from a past that's rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that's wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.

Maya Angelou

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thebbz Ex Member	Re: A Powerful Moment Reply #32 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:55pm Well, Like it or not, get behind it. United we stand, divided we fall. Ted Nugent for chief of staff.!! the bb
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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #33 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 11:19pm

Audre wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:06pm:

I know, our media didn't report on a lot of things on both sides. But I'm not talking just elections, I'm talking our foreign relationship and why these countries seem to be so pissed off at us. Since we don't get the full story, many are quick to say these countries are terrorists or possible threats, while we're over there egging them on, trying to get them pissed at us.

Holy shit that pisses me off, noone is saying entire countries are terrorists but there are many terroists in some countries, do you think these countries will respect us if we stir shit up and then just say see ya?????? Shit I've served my counrty and am damn proud of it, so dont shit on the ones serving now!!!!!!!!!!!We are not "egging them on" this shit will continue if we are there or not, we are there trying to help!!!!!!!!!!!!Read some history this shit has been going on for years before we got there!!!!!!!In god we trust and god bless america!!!!!!!!!!!!!peace out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Angry

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Jimi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't feed the moderators Posts: 4925 Madisonville, KY Gender:	Re: A Powerful Moment Reply #34 - Nov 5^th, 2008 at 11:31pm Sorry Pepper. Looks like your heart felt post got highjacked into another pissing contest. I appreciate all the well wishes to our new president elect and I hope that he turns out to be one of the greatest Presidents we have ever had. He certainly has his work cut out for him.
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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #35 - Nov 6^th, 2008 at 2:27am

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Audre wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:06pm:

I know, our media didn't report on a lot of things on both sides.

Both sides?........LMMFAO....Your delusional! Cheesy

I think you're delusional if you think Obama was the only one that they didn't report on.

As for CH-Hell.....you should actually read what I said. Did I once say anything about Iraq or anyone serving? No, I didn't. I have lots of friends and family that are or have served there, and I have a lot of respect for them and am not about to "shit on them".

We are, in fact, labeling countries as terrorists. It has nothing to do with Afghanistan or Iraq, whatever your views are on those. It has to do with our government playing up the scare card; our media reporting only one side, and twisting it to make us look like the good guys, when we aren't always.

Example: Russia - they're pissed at us because we're putting missiles up in Poland, which can hit them and Iran. They're pissed at us for the way we reacted towards them and the Georgia invasion. We condemn Russia for supposedly invading, when they did not, and we even put an embargo on them for it. Not to mention, we were the ones that trained and equipped the Georgian army.

Read more about Venezuela and the supposed dictator, about the coup that kidnapped him and American's reaction to that and our reaction to him leading up to that. "Our concern with Venezuela is they're the third largest supplier of petroleum and Chavez does not have the interests of the United States at heart." ....

There's so much more going on in the Middle East, that doesn't have to do with our military and it's pretty ignorant to link what I said to shitting on them.

Read more about what's going on. That's why so many countries are excited about Obama being President. They feel he's more calm and diplomatic and not a hawk like McCain or Bush. They're hoping he'll reach his hand out to them in a way we haven't done for a very long time.

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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #38 - Nov 6^th, 2008 at 8:25am

I did not vote for Obama. That being said it was exciting to see history being made the other night. I was (a little) conciously proud to be an American for the first time since I cannot remember.

I am optimisitc and hope that this will help put our country in a better direction that it has been going. I think Obama is capable of being great. He seems decent enough, tough enough, and resolved enough, and the stage is set.

In one aspect, it is good for Obama. Things have not been this bad in a long time. Should be easy to do somethings correct and make some progress.

Bad news is the same as the good. It hasn't been this bad in a long time, so while getting it going the right direction should be easy (how can it get any worse than what Bush left it?) getting big time results will take lots of work, and time.

I wish him all the best. A lot of people are depending on him now.

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Re: A Powerful Moment
Reply #39 - Nov 6^th, 2008 at 9:11am

Peppermint wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 10:47pm:

Melissa wrote on Nov 5^th, 2008 at 8:26pm:

Even though I did not vote for Obama, this made me tear up...

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Melo.. thank you for posting this - this is a great characterization of what is being felt in hearts and minds of so many. This city is pulsating here.

My child, many years after myself as a child, finds the meaning resonates with her, here and now.

Here is the full text of the real and eloquent Maya Angelou.

Still I Rise

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
'Cause I walk like I've got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.

Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I'll rise.

Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops.
Weakened by my soulful cries.

Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don't you take it awful hard
'Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines
Diggin' in my own back yard.

You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I'll rise.

Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I've got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?

Out of the huts of history's shame
I rise
Up from a past that's rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that's wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.

Maya Angelou

Patty thank you for posting that poem, I've never seen it before but it struck a chord for me and right now to be honest, I really need some strong words to live by.

I also agree with Jimi, it's a shame when we jump on anyone else's passionate dreams whether we agree with them or not.

I like the idea of treading carefully on other's hopes and aspirations lest one day they crumble mine..

with love as always
Helen xxx

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