And Jonny to elaborate just a bit if I may. Half the shit on a car is made by small business. The stickers, the shocks, the carpet, and so on. It is not a one stop shop that makes all the parts that come together in an assembly that you drive off the sales lot!

MITYRARE wrote on Nov 21^st, 2008 at 9:50pm:


13 posts and I like this dude already! 

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The union is the damn problem.

I agree that the union is the problem, I feel for the Joe on the line loosing his pension, healthcare, and job in one foul swoop dude. I was in the electrical union and they screwed with us all the time about petty crap and lived it up on our dime!

Kudos on the video Racer, thats how it's is!!

Edit to add; The variable here is how well will the fresh DNC nominees hold their backbones when it comes to the unions that paved their way to office? I know I'm not trying to be political here, just sensing the obvious.

I do not blame the unions.
I BLAME MANAGEMANT.
Down the road from me here in Canada I have both a GM factory and a Honda factory...with family members working at both....GM unionized and Honda not....both make very similar wages and benefits (GM has slightly better benefits)
The difference is that if you are a floor sweeper at Honda you work 8 hours for 8 hours pay where if you are a floor sweeper at GM you work an hour or maybe two and your manager says "screw the company... go home and i'll punch your card out for you later"...or "go to the lunch room and watch the hockey game...its the Leafs and Habs tonight"....WHERE IS THE MANAGEMENT!!!!.

MITYRARE wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 1:32pm:


13 posts and I like this dude already!  
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27,950 posts ...how can you run a small business and post that much?!
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Microbrew, I mean micromanage.

Denny Hecker Closed 6 car dealerships and sold off 3.

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400 Minnesotans hit the breadline.

A MODERN PARABLE . .
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River.  Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.
On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.
The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat.  A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.
Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.
Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.
They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.
Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents, and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.
They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder.  It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners, and free pens for the rower  There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.
The next year the Japanese won by two miles.
Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment.  The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India.
Sadly, The End.
Here's something else to think about:
Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US, claiming they can't make money paying American wages.
TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US.  The last quarter's results:
TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.
Ford folks are still scratching their heads.
IF THIS WEREN'T TRUE, IT MIGHT BE FUNNY.

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The numbers are a little out of date, but conceptually the same today. The 2007/2008 numbers will be available in February.

I could put some money in my savings account at $75. per hour. Nah, on second thought, it's only $150,000 per year. Chump change, huh......

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If I recall, it's the total package....pay....bennies.....etc...

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Another.  I've lost track of all of them, what comes after a thousand billion, a trillion?