Never one to be accused of running from a question, I thought I had answered it but I will go into more detail!

Would I use my AR-15 if a group of "citizens" rose up against our goverment? Yes. We have an excellent form of representative goverment here. Probably the best system in the world. (I won't start a separate debate on that with other countries, just a general opinion! ) The groups currently rising up against MY country are radical factions of various outlaw groups proclaiming to be "only preserving my fundamental rights" Which is their way of saying they're too damned lazy to avail themselves of our representative form of goverment, instead acting like any other terrorist and trying to enforce a minority view point on the majority.

Would I use my AR-15 against my goverment if they came after my family? Short answer, yes. Long answer...it's a really really far fetched question. Why would "the goverment" come after my family. People need to stop thinking of the goverment as this evil entity. Defense lawyers are the ones who started that. Always describing our cases against their clients as "the goverments" case. Like it's some multi headed horrible monster. They are the people YOU elect. With the various checks and balances in our system, no one man will ever take over the country.

Joe's humble opinion!

(there, never let it be said I ducked a question!!!)

I wish to hell you were coming to Saint Louis, I think you and I could talk for HOURS over a few cold ones!!!

Joe

(I hope Chuck doesn't read that!)

Guiseppi wrote on Dec 31^st, 2008 at 10:55pm:


Are you only thinking about your family or are Arab Americans allowed the same rights as you when they come after their family?

Guiseppi wrote on Dec 31^st, 2008 at 10:55pm:


First of all, we live in a Republic, based upon democratic law, not a Democracy. The majority does not always win. Remember the 2000 election?
As far as one man taking over the country. Have you seen some of the executive orders Bush has signed into effect? Even states rights are being trampled.

The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.
James Madison

Have you read about my Governor? He was elected by the majority. Now the majority can't get rid of him. Whats to stop him from calling up the Illinois national guard to surround the state capital and retain office? Nothing. And I wouldn't put it past this idiot.
I now, at least temporarily, have a senator that we didn't elect, appointed by a governor that we don't want.
Had he made it through a few more years here, there was plenty of talk about him running for President.

I think its funny that I'm supposed to worry about Facebook getting my IP address and sending me an unsolicited (and unnecessary) email trying to sell me Viagra, but I'm not supposed to worry about the government (oh, I'm sorry, the "people") collecting files on me, reading my email, listening to my phone calls? I don't read my kids emails or listen in on their phone calls as they deserve privacy. I don't expect my government to do it either. I don't think its too much to ask.

For those that say you have nothing to hide, I'd ask this. What happens if you apply for a government job or contract that needs clearance. Homeland Security has a file on you that says you have cluster headaches. Your competition for the job doesn't and he/she gets the job and you have no idea you've been discriminated against.
Thats just one example.

JM2C,
Bobw

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.

James Madison, National Gazette Essay, March 27, 1792