Hi.  I just registered for this site and love someone who has been suffering horribly with CH for about 4 years now.  I apologize in advance if I've pklaced this post in the wrong section.

They've become chronic and he doesn't have many PF days. He's seen many doctors, including a research doctor at UVA Neurology Center. They've tried him on this and that, and the only thing that seems to help is Imitrex. Of course the month's supply that insurance will cover only lasts 4 days if he's lucky and only uses part of the injection per CH.

I have been doing extensive research and it seems that smoking crack can abort. Of course that's not an option. However you can buy powdered lidocaine.

Have any of you tried smoking powdered lidocaine? He's had no luck with putting it up his nose.

Thanks for any advice anyone can offer.

Dear Lydia:

Welcome to the site.  I would think that the smoking of a local anesthetic would NOT help.  If you have a loved one with or without CH, please stay away from street drugs (ie. eg: Crack).

Wishing you well,

Ray

I've never seen powdered lidocaine, but I would think that smoking it would be a very, very bad idea. He doesn't need a general nerve numbing throughout his body, he needs something to target the problem.

I would suggest oxygen first. Oxygen works for 87% of male sufferers (under 60% for females)  according to the most well known study. In order to get maximum benefit, it’s critical to use it right – read the info available on this site.

If he’s at wits end now – many of us use welding oxygen because it’s the same product as medical oxygen and it’s readily available while you are waiting for his doctor to give him a prescription.

Marc

Actually there's a basis behind that. I don't agree with it, as crack / coccaine is FREAKING GODAWFUL.

The thing is, locally? Coccaine is used as an anesthetic in sinus surgery. It's a powerful vasoconstrictor. Some people I believe mentioned that after sinus surgeries, their CH felt better, likely due to this. There's a thread floating around somewheres that addresses this. There's also a thread of a guy who went and tried different things to see what the effects would be.1

I'm not promoting the use of it, nor is the poster. She pointed out, it obviously was NOT an option. Again, anyone who tries this, deserves to become addicted. You don't play with fire and expect to get burned.

Now, on to the Lidocaine...

Ask his doctor about lidocaine nasal spray, or, some lidocaine in syrup form. At an ER, they used some lidociane syrup on me. It numbed PART of the headache, what was in the sinuses, but other than that? Nada. The rest still hurt horribly.

Either way, there's no telling what the hell lidocaine inhalation would do to his lungs! It could cause all sorts of problems you didn't anticipate. What if it impairs his ability to breathe? You don't know what it'll do....

coach_bill wrote on Jan 1^st, 2009 at 8:46pm:


I been trying to avoid these bad brained posts.  Get some gawddamned oxygen and forget cola in any form.  Been there and done that, it don't work.

Again try the oxygen.

            Kinder gentler Potter

Many treatments are as bad as the CH. Just say no.
the bb

seasonalboomer wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2009 at 9:44pm:


How about you learn to read my posts before responding. If you would have, you would have saw that I pointed out, it's a VERY BAD IDEA. Re: You use it, you deserve to be addicted to it for being a complete idiot.

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Just because I think anyone who uses it is a idiot, doesn't change the fact it's a vasoconstrictor. Someone asked about it, I supplied the answer. Doesn't mean that I'm agreeing with it.

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In Mystina's defense -- I did edit my comments after rereading -- but I was amazed that she had started it out as "Actually there's a basis behind that."

Still amazed but did edit from the original after re-reading.

It's funny...I've been doing "extensive research" and it seems that a LOT of things can abort an attack....but I can't find one single site that says ANYTHING about SMOKING CRACK for CH...just how does someone come away from "extensive research" with THAT on their plate?!? 

God forbid anyone in a desperate state of pain find this thread and actually TRY this...

Crack? You've got to be kidding me!! Mize well add more troubles to ones life and who needs more troubles!!

JUST SAY NO!!  SAY YES TO O2 INSTEAD!!

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The thing is, locally? Coccaine is used as an anesthetic in sinus surgery.


First off, I have personally had sinus surgery and cocaine was in no way used as a anesthetic.

Second, CRACK KILLS this is not an option for cluster headaches!

Dumb ass post? or dumb ass thread?

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