Greetings All,
I have been asked by several people to start a new thread on the topic of the herbal/supplement mix that I and several others have found so very effective at treating cluster headache. I am not using the dreaded 'C' word, but the mix has effectively eliminated CH from my life. I get a shadow or two as a cycle tries to start, I start on the mix, no more HA's. I stay on it for a week or so, and it's all over for another six months. YMMV.
The current discussion of the 'mix' started this past July, when I posted the following in response to a frustrated plea on a thread on this board:
Quote:I posted a note about this a year or so ago, but thought I should share it with you. I have had GREAT success with the following regimen:
Kudzu - 1000 mg, 2x per day (morning & night)
Magnesium - 250 mg, 2x per day (morning & night)
St. John's Wort - 300 mg, 2x per day (morning & night)
Skullcap - 425 mg at bedtime
Melatonin - 10 mg at bedtime
A little background: I'm a 51 y/o male, 215 lbs, episodic CH since 1992. I was in complete remission for about six years until about this time last year, when the Beast came back. I decided to try 'alternative' treatment, since I've never had very good luck with doctors for much of anything. I also would rather avoid the potentially severe and/or permanent side effects that most of the pharmaceutical treatments seem to offer! I would have tried clusterbusters in a heartbeat, but I have a very real concern about potential legal issues here in Louisiana. This is not the most progressive state in the U.S.!
All of my 'ingredients' are pretty benign, available OTC, and cheap. Total cost is well under a buck a day. Most importantly, they work - at least for me. I have stopped the Beast in its tracks! Here's what happened:
I came up with the regimen after reading a whole lot about what different people seemed to think worked well for them, as well as a good bit of the medical literature. I went out and bought all of the supplements from either Wal-Mart, GNC, or the local health food store. I started taking them, in the dosages described above, about a week into that cycle last fall. From Day One, my attacks almost stopped. I had a couple of K3's after a few days, and then it was over. No more attacks at all. I kept taking the supplements for a week or so, just out of caution (fear?), then stopped altogether. About six months later, a cycle tried to start again - I had a single HA, around a K6 or so. I restarted my regimen that day, continued it for a week or so, and never had another hit. After 16 years of CH, I cried when I finally felt sure enough to tell my wife, "I beat them! It works! I've beat the f***ing headaches!!!"
As desperate as we are to find something to help with CH, I think most sufferers have become a little jaded, and are unwilling to try something new, just out of fear that it will not work. No guarantees that it'll work for everybody, of course, but just as a side note, no one has EVER told me that they tried this routine and had it fail. It' simple, legal, safe, and cheap. Try it. YMMV, but it's damn sure worth a try! The only caveat of which I'm aware is that I've heard that Kudzu may interfere with some of the pharmaceutical meds, so check with your doc if you're still on anything.
I would REALLY appreciate any feedback, pro or con, from anyone who tries this. Good luck and PFDAN to all!
Regards,
Jim
The original thread is here (if I did this right):
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After reading my post, Cyndi went out and bought the ingredients for her husband, Lorne, who was really having a hard time. The mix knocked his cycle out in a few days, once he got all the components. Cyndi proceeded to start another thread, which you can read here:
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After seeing Lorne's success story, Josh ("Hayduke") started on the mix in early September, and had almost immediate success. You can read about it here:
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Since then, there have been several more success stories with the mix, including some pretty dramatic results. A couple of others have had less encouraging results, but in each of the cases it seems that either the individual was sensitive to a component of the mix, or was taking a lot of other meds that might have interfered with it. Again, I'm not claiming it will work for everybody, but it's got a very high success rate!
One of the main reasons I'm starting this new thread is that the old ones seemed to wander quite a bit. We ended up with a lot of discussion that really did not involve the mix at all. I, and several others, would like to try and construct a thread specifically about the recipe as described above. I urge anyone who has tried the mix to contribute with their experiences.
I will make several more posts as time permits, and try to explain some of the 'theory of operation' of the mix. I believe that there is a lot of synergy between the components of this recipe, and that a lot of the success has to do with the combined effectiveness of the ingredients. Please do not think that because you have tried one or two of the ingredients in the past without success, it automatically means that this will not work for you! Try it before you knock it!
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the discussions so far, and let's keep those success stories coming!
OK, enough for now!
Very best regards,
Jim