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Reply #25 - Jan 4th, 2009 at 6:45pm
 
Kev, did you ever end up reading Alan Carr's book?  Just curious.

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Reply #26 - Jan 4th, 2009 at 7:08pm
 
Frank_W wrote on Jan 4th, 2009 at 4:26pm:
It is 99.9% a psychological addiction. If it weren't, there would be rehab centers with medical staff for people going through withdrawals, the way there are for people coming off of alcohol, cocaine, and heroin.

From Drugrehabtreatment.com:

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"Despite the difficulty in determining which drugs are the most addictive, Dr. Jack E. Henningfield of the National Institute on Drug Abuse and Dr. Neal L. Benowitz of the University of California at San Francisco attempted to define the most addictive drugs by ranking six psychoactive substances on the five criteria they found most applicable to addiction:

Withdrawal - The severity of withdrawal symptoms produced by stopping the use of the drug.
Reinforcement - The drug's tendency to induce users to take it over and over again.
Tolerance - The user's need to have ever-increasing doses of the drug to get the same effect.
Dependence - The difficulty in quitting, or staying off the drug, usually measured by the number of users who eventually become dependent.
Intoxication - The degree of intoxication produced by the drug in typical use.
Based on the level of dependence, the most common measure for determining the addictiveness of a drug, the substances ranked as follows, from most to least addictive:

1.  Nicotine
2.  Heroin
3.  Cocaine
4.  Alcohol
5.  Caffeine
6.  Marijuana"


There's no doubt that the psychological aspect is very powerful in cigarette addiction, but so is the physical.  The 72-hour mark, when nicotine is essentially eliminated from the body, is a huge milestone in an effort to quit.

The main reason you don't see so many nicotine rehab centers all over the place is that there are no judges ordering people into rehab to quit smoking, and there are few tax dollars available to divert into the programs.  Not many people are threatened with prison, or the loss of their jobs, for smoking.  Even still, the "quit-smoking" industry is a multi-billion dollar a year business.

Hang in there, Kev - It'll get better!

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Reply #27 - Jan 4th, 2009 at 7:47pm
 
Melissa......never read the book.  I'm not big on reading in my spare time.  Today has been easier.  Even with a sick wife and 2 sick kids while watching my Eagles play.  We have 2 cases of stept throat and 1 ear infection. 

Still easier than yesterday.....I have had 3 pieces of gum today.  I'll probably take 1 more before heading to bed.
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Reply #28 - Jan 4th, 2009 at 7:50pm
 
Kick it to the curb, Kev!!! Smiley Smiley
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Reply #29 - Jan 4th, 2009 at 8:06pm
 
I am not a smoker but lived with one all my life until I moved out for college. My mom died of emphesema and I promise not to get on my soap box about how bad it is for your lungs, you already know that. Two things I've learned from addiction counselors is the 72 hr rule which has been discussed and the personal pledge you take, the reason you decide to do it. The best reason I can ever give other than the damage it does to your body is those sweet two little babies in your life!! I would have done anything to grow up in a smoke free home. I am so proud of you and anyone that can give up cigarettes. Hang in there!! You can do it!!

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Reply #30 - Jan 4th, 2009 at 9:02pm
 
Quitting cigarettes causes no physical illness or danger. People kicking heroin get sick, sick, sick... Like the worst case of the flu you've ever experienced. People kicking alcohol run the risk of seizures and even death, and ditto for cocaine in its various forms.

Meh... Whatever... I'm a dumbshit.

Anyway, Kev: Good for you, and continued strength and best wishes to you.
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Reply #31 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:26am
 
Kev, how are you doing, brother?
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Reply #32 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 10:39am
 
Quit 12 years ago - best thing I've ever done for myself.

You can do it. It was easier than I made it out to be.

There's a whole industry built on the idea that this is the hardest thing you'll ever do. They benefit from you believing it is hard to do and changing your "dependence" on cigarettes to gum, or prescriptive medication.

Understanding why you want to ignore the warnings associated with continued smoking, what makes you think you won't be the one that gets lung cancer, or why you think lung cancer would be a better way to go, is where you should spend more time.

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Reply #33 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 11:23am
 
still going strong Frank!!!  Still not easy but still smoke free!!!! Think I need some fresh air.
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Reply #34 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 11:28am
 
Awesome!! Your sense of smell and taste should be returning. You may start hacking up a lot of crud as the cilia are no longer paralyzed by smoking, and begin to do their job of removing tar and gunk out of your lungs.

Within 20 minutes of smoking that last cigarette, the body begins a series of changes that continues for years.

20 MINUTES

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    * Blood pressure drops to normal.
    * Pulse rate drops to normal.
     Body temperature of hands and feet increases to normal.

8 HOURS

    * Carbon monoxide level in blood drops to normal.
    *
     Oxygen level in blood increases to normal.

24 HOURS

    * Chance of heart attack decreases.

48 HOURS

    * Nerve endings start regrowing.
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     Ability to smell and taste is enhanced.

2 WEEKS TO 3 MONTHS

    * Circulation improves.
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    * Walking becomes easier.
     Lung function increases up to 30%.

1 TO 9 MONTHS

    * Coughing, sinus congestion, fatigue, and shortness of breath decrease.
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    * Cilia regrow in lungs, increasing ability to handle mucus, clean the lungs, and reduce infection.
     Body's overall energy increases.

1 YEAR

    * Excess risk of coronary heart disease is half that of a smoker.

5 YEARS

    * Lung cancer death rate for average smoker (one pack a day) decreases by almost half.
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    * Stroke risk is reduced to that of a nonsmoker 5-15 years after quitting.
     Risk of cancer of the mouth, throat and esophagus is half that of a smoker's.

10 YEARS

    * Lung cancer death rate similar to that of nonsmokers.
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    * Precancerous cells are replaced.
     Risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney and pancreas decreases.

15 YEARS

    * Risk of coronary heart disease is that of a nonsmoker.
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Reply #35 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 12:00pm
 
Way to go, Kev!  Stay tough!
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Reply #36 - Jan 5th, 2009 at 11:36pm
 
Sounds great Kev. Frank's list is a good one.

It turns out that things like hemorrhoids are thought to be less frequent in non-smokers too. The best thing though is that you will no longer be an outcast standing outside in blizzards or monsoons catching a smoke. Please feel free to send me all the extra cash you save...... Cool

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Reply #37 - Jan 6th, 2009 at 9:29am
 
Well Kev?

Time for an update.  You're under the microscope now!

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Reply #38 - Jan 6th, 2009 at 6:47pm
 
So how's it going?? We are all in your corner. You CAN and WILL do this! Keep it up!

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Reply #39 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 12:14am
 
I am resurrecting this from page two.


Kev....chime in here and let us know how you're doing please.  Even if it isn't great, we'd still like to know.  Every smoker or ex smoker here knows what you're up against.  If you're not doing good....let us help you get back on tract where you want to be.  O.K.?  Please?

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Reply #41 - Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:24am
 
Kev--you can do it. MHO, you should get off the nic gum as soon as possible b/c you are still putting nicotine into your system. I quit this past August and have fallen 3 times but have not smoked since December. The cravings diminish but it is hard.

Keep plugging day to day. It is a stuggle and remember the pain of cravings is well worth your health.

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Reply #42 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 12:47pm
 
Toothpicks, gum anything to get your mind off of it.

It was easy for me, however I only smoked for about 10 years
and 1 pack or less/day.  I remember after the first 2 weeks it seemed
like a big accomplishment and then the 1 month, and 6 months and so on.  Now, I only have a desire after a rough night drinking.  That rarely happens, so it's been good. 

Good luck my friend and realize you're doing a great thing for your body!  Who knows, you might even reduce the CH intensity like myself, however what do I know it could be one big coincidence.

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Reply #43 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:02pm
 
still smoke free baby!  Of course now its a more serious reason to stay smoke free.  At this point, I do not think I could possibly ever go back.  but i would love too.
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Reply #44 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:12pm
 
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Nope.   That is called "stinking thinking"    AA, I believe coined it.

If you still believe you would love to, then you're setting yourself up for failure in advance.  Think of what a nasty ash-tray smells like and ask yourself if that is what you love.


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Reply #45 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:24pm
 
my true feelings are that I wish smoking was good for you.  I honestly can't see going back.  I am already not hacking up a lung anymore. Breathing much better.
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Reply #46 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:36pm
 
And you don't want those sweet little children of yours to think Daddy smells like a dirty ash tray!!! Great news!! Keep up the good work and thanks for posting.

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Reply #47 - Jan 14th, 2009 at 6:33am
 
Way to go Kev, you are doing great!!!! Smiley Smiley

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Reply #48 - Jan 14th, 2009 at 9:02am
 
Way to go Kev!  Two weeks is awesome!

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Reply #49 - Jan 14th, 2009 at 9:34pm
 
Nice going Kev and I know how you feel about restarting. It's too hard to go through it again. Keep it up!

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