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Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 5:26pm

Has anyone tried these herbs as an alternative to shrooms? I am aware it has some hallucinogenic properties, but does it have the same effect as shrooms for CHs? I'm unsuccessful in getting a hold of shrooms (no connections), but have salvia growing all over my garden (My lightbulb is going off...) I've been unsuccessfully battling the beast for 22 years now... I'll try ANYTHING if it has any spark of hope.

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Pixie-elf CH.com Hall of Famer Offline I've tried the rest, and busting is the best! Posts: 517 Beaumont,Tx Gender:	Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens?? Reply #2 - Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:25pm My family has asked about this, I too am wondering if it would help with clusters. I just have never gotten around to posting and asking. I'm not sure what receptors it works on in the brain or what. (I dislike hallousinating, so I'm NOT trying it out. But I would like to know if it would help.) Mystina
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rossimft CH.com Junior Offline Doggonit! These CHs are making my eyes pop out!!! Posts: 25 x0\|Clovis\|USA\|\|0\|0\|CA,California Gender:	Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens?? Reply #3 - Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:50pm I agree. I too am not looking for a trip, nor do I want to be the experimenter, but if it has similar properties as other hallucinogens, maybe there is something to it. AND it is very easily accessible.
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UnderTheRadar CH.com Old Timer Offline Literally Posts: 383 Texas Gender:	Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens?? Reply #4 - Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 6:57pm Remember, it may have a similar effect or similar properties, but that doesn't mean it has the same molecular structure. I'll do some research, but I believe it is NOT an indole-ring molecule...
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Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens??
Reply #5 - Jan 3^rd, 2009 at 7:00pm

From wikipedia:

"Salvinorin A is a trans-neoclerodane diterpenoid, chemical formula C23H28O8.[4] Unlike other known opioid-receptor ligands, salvinorin A is not an alkaloid — it does not contain a basic nitrogen atom.[5] Salvinorin A has no actions at the 5-HT2A serotonin receptor, the principal molecular target responsible for the actions of 'classical' psychedelics such as LSD and mescaline."

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rossimft CH.com Junior Offline Doggonit! These CHs are making my eyes pop out!!! Posts: 25 x0\|Clovis\|USA\|\|0\|0\|CA,California Gender:	Re: Salvia divinorum or splendens?? Reply #6 - Jan 4^th, 2009 at 12:17am well then, that answers my question. I guess I'll just keep using it for floral display purposes only
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