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Ellick CH.com Veteran Offline ET found here. Posts: 200 x1\|Aylesbury\|UK Gender:	O2. Nocked up blose. Jan 21^st, 2009 at 12:27pm I find that when I use O2 I get a stuffy blocked up nose which sometimes is like a constriction to the point where it is difficult to talk. The more I use O2 the greater the blocked sensation. I put up with it because it is an ok 'trade off' for the pain. Does anyone else experience this and if so have you found a way of relieving it? ET.
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Pixie-elf CH.com Hall of Famer Offline I've tried the rest, and busting is the best! Posts: 517 Beaumont,Tx Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #1 - Jan 21^st, 2009 at 10:50pm Err, are you using it with a non rebreather mask? You shouldn't be breathing ANY oxygen through your nose, just your mouth.
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Ellick CH.com Veteran Offline ET found here. Posts: 200 x1\|Aylesbury\|UK Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #2 - Jan 22^nd, 2009 at 2:59am Thanks for your response. Yes I do use a rebreather and do inhale through my mouth. I will check this out with my Dr and come back with any info if it is relevant. Ellick.
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Reply #3 - Jan 22^nd, 2009 at 8:08am

I've heard some say any breath through the nose worstens symptoms. I've heard others say it help. Everyone is different. Either way, you should breath in whatever way works for you.

The important thing is to get pure O2 (no room air) in at a high enough flow rate to abort the attack. For me that's 25lpm. In addition to the flow rate, the mask needs to make a good seal on your face.

I have facial hair which makes this hard. So I use a mouth tube. Consequently I don't breath through my nose at all. It doesn't matter because my nose gets blocked when the attack begins.

So I couldn't tell you if it gets worse with the O2.

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So be safe, don't smoke while using O2. Kill the pain and not yourself.

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Just Plain Carl CH.com Old Timer Offline IT IS WHAT IT IS Posts: 449 Royal Oak, Michigan Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #4 - Jan 22^nd, 2009 at 12:54pm I was usually blocked up before I hit the oxygen. some kind soul here turned me on to 4way nasal spray. I would use that prior to hitting the O2. Seemed to work pretty well. PFD's JPC
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Ellick CH.com Veteran Offline ET found here. Posts: 200 x1\|Aylesbury\|UK Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #5 - Jan 22^nd, 2009 at 1:51pm Thanks JPC. What is 4 way spray? ET.
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Just Plain Carl CH.com Old Timer Offline IT IS WHAT IT IS Posts: 449 Royal Oak, Michigan Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #6 - Jan 22^nd, 2009 at 2:16pm I don't know what you can get on the other side of the pond but 4way is a brand name for a nasal decongestant. PFD's JPC
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Reply #7 - Jan 23^rd, 2009 at 5:00pm

Update on this. Was feeling lousy as a matter of course just coming of the peak of a cycle but the constant stuffed up feeling was there plus sore throats.

Went to my GP who prescribed 40mg of prednisolone in one dose daily for 5 days then go back and see him. He also wants me to stay on Verapamil permanently. I'm not keen and he was seeing me not in the throes of a hit but more like a washed up dirty old piece of wet rag on the bank of a scummy river.

He also prescribed some nasal spray. He said that he thought the sore throat (bad in the mornings -can't swallow) was due to O2.
Man who delivered it today said 'you are really getting through some quantity'. I told him that I hoped it would not be for much longer much more than he did.

I haven't used Prednisolone before. Any advice?

The O2 stuff has me a tad woried because I rely on it so much these days.

May be I just need a brain transplant. I AM NOT LOOKING FOR DONORS ON HERE THOUGH!

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Marc Ex Member Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #8 - Jan 23^rd, 2009 at 5:29pm Pixie-elf wrote on Jan 21^st, 2009 at 10:50pm: You shouldn't be breathing ANY oxygen through your nose, just your mouth. Curious what makes you say this? Marc
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FramCire CH.com Alumnus Offline Life like a froward child must be humored a little Posts: 1710 Bolivar, MO USA Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #9 - Jan 23^rd, 2009 at 5:40pm The nostril on the side of my hit is usually blocked before I get to the O2. So, maybe it is a CH side not an O2 side effect?
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Jonny Ex Member	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #10 - Jan 23^rd, 2009 at 5:45pm Ellick, are you using a bubbler/humidifier with the 02? If not, you should get one. It helps with throat and nose problems.
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Potter CH.com Alumnus Offline Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff Posts: 3600 Blgs.Mt. Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #11 - Jan 23^rd, 2009 at 6:10pm Pixie-elf wrote on Jan 21^st, 2009 at 10:50pm: Err, are you using it with a non rebreather mask? You shouldn't be breathing ANY oxygen through your nose, just your mouth. Baloney. Kinder gentler Potter
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Reply #12 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 7:10am

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Ellick, are you using a bubbler/humidifier with the 02?

If not, you should get one. It helps with throat and nose problems. Wink

Thanks for this Jonny, I will try it.

This is my first time using a non-rebreather. I have used for seceral years now an ordinary mask (taped up) and used to inhale then remove (switch off O2) exhale then (swith on) and inhale again.
It worked but seemed to take a long time.
Had a blocked nose (not so bad) but not the sore throats. Must admit I used to breathe through mouth and nose together.
I've had the blocked up nose for several months (not as severe as this) and it's been a problem all my life in remission and during clusters. It's not constant but frequent. People often asking if I have a cold when I dont. I'm so used to it, I'm surprised when I am asked.

I also get the blocked tap running side of a cluster in a hit alongside the runny red eye (like a b movie horror)

I agree that with Framcire. I think this is related to Clusters and it seems that it happens in place of a hit. It's remarkable how it can suddenly go in the space of a few minutes.

Prednisilone had helped the stuffed up feeling (it's gon) and kept the all day shadow down too. Last night made a straigh 6 hours sleep. First time in a month. Today feel feel better than I have in 2 months.

Trouble is I know any medication has atrade off, I just don't know what this one is yet. Oh well its not that I am not used to it.
releif when it's there is a breathing space.

Thanks for the advices and thoughts.

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Reply #13 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 8:14am

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Went to my GP who prescribed 40mg of prednisolone in one dose daily for 5 days then go back and see him

This is taken from OUCH(UK) website and the 1mg per kg refers to body weight.

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The tablets, called prednisolone (1mg per kg), are prescribed starting at a maximum dosage of 60mg once a day for five days, and from then on, a decreased dosage (by 10mg) every three days. Unfortunately, this necessary 'tapering' effect (reducing the dosage) means that in most sufferers the CH returns

You should not just STOP taking prednisolone it has to be tapered off.

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Ellick CH.com Veteran Offline ET found here. Posts: 200 x1\|Aylesbury\|UK Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #14 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 12:57pm Thanks for the advice Dyno. And thanks for the link, I will make certain that the GP knows about this. Ellick
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Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 3:14am

Four way nasal spray is Phenylephrine hydrochloride 1% is the ingredient.
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Marc wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2009 at 5:29pm:

Pixie-elf wrote on Jan 21^st, 2009 at 10:50pm:

You shouldn't be breathing ANY oxygen through your nose, just your mouth.

Curious what makes you say this?

Marc

Hm, I thought I had read that somewhere on here, but I guess I was wrong. (Expecially since we have to use the masks, and nasal cannulas usually don't work...)

My apologies. Breathe oxygen however it gives you relief.

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Marc Ex Member Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #16 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 9:36am No problem. I was was wondering what I was missing because you stated it so strongly. Marc
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Ellick CH.com Veteran Offline ET found here. Posts: 200 x1\|Aylesbury\|UK Gender:	Re: O2. Nocked up blose. Reply #17 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 12:53pm Marc wrote on Jan 25^th, 2009 at 9:36am: No problem. I was was wondering what I was missing because you stated it so strongly. Marc Same from me. Echo that. Ellick
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Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 5:27am

When using mine, I breathe in through my nose and out through my mouth. I do that only to try and stay calm. The feeling of panic when it starts sometimes overwhelms me, so I do big breaths (count of 4 in and count of 4 out) to try and reduce the anxiety a bit. I also get very sore nose and throat. The only thing I would say is try having a cold energy drink or a coffee to drink just before and if you can manage it - during also. Ice water is another good one.

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Reply #19 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:22am

Hi Em,

I wrote to the guy who I bought the mask from. He did not think the sore throat or blocked up nose was due to O2 but he acknowledged that O2 does dry the throat out. I have periods of stuffed upness (ironic English here) when I am in remission but never the sore throat like that. The guy thought the one was affecting the other and I guess the O2 didn't help. Prednisilone has fixed the blocked nose so I think it was cluster related.

He suggested that I have a glass of water handy when I use O2 and drink a little every 2 or 3 minutes. I've done that and have no sore throat but then I am not blocked now.

He was dubious about a humidifier because ifthe bag is not removed after each use mold can form on th einside and you could start inhaling a whole new problem. He knows people use them with no problem and might sell them in future with some clear warnings and advice of how to avoid the mold.

I have used the topical steroid sprays before but in this cluster they triggered it. In remission they don't but in the past a few weeks after using them the clusters would start. Maybe the blocked nose is an early warning sign. The HTP receptors are gathering round the sinuses in a pincer movement. In future when that happens I think I might start verapamil then or try other alternatives like herbal or buster.

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