ClusterChuck
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Pinkfloyd wrote on Jan 31st, 2009 at 12:45am:I've been told that people should be sitting, slightly forward without pressure on the back so the lungs can completely inflate, breath deep and then exhale completely. Actually, Bob, leaning forward, while sitting, is a no-no. Especially if you have, shall I politely say, a bit of extra padding in the belly (like I do). What happens when you lean forward is that you restrict the diaphragm from pulling down fully, and getting full expansion of the lungs. It is felt that standing, or leaning back into a semi reclining position allows the diaphragm its full expansion capabilities.
I have no idea if my lungs are large or not, but I can easily empty a bag at the 15LPM flow. You can actually see that on the video of my hit. Ben had a good idea, with the larger bag, but, even if you had the larger bag, if the input flow rate is lower than your usage, you would still empty the bag. It would just take a few more breaths, to empty the bag, than with the smaller bag.
I am like Joe, in that I use a demand valve system. Using the demand valve system, we have calculated that, during the hyperventilation stage of aborting, I am actually using approximately 60LPM. Through testing and documenting my hits and abort times, using the 15LPM method, and then doing the same documentation using the demand valve, I was able to shorten my abort time from an average of 20 minutes to abort down to 4 minutes to abort. Those were rather impressive improvements, I am sure you will agree!
So, in my mind, the higher flow rate is a must, for someone like me. Now, I am not saying that everyone needs to go the higher flow rate. Some get good control at 15 or even 8 LPM. If those rates work for you, then that is fantastic! Stay with the lower flow rates.
BUT, If you are one of the ones that say that oxygen therapy does not work for you, or it takes too long to abort, then you should try the higher flow rates. It has had amazingly great results for many.
At the last convention, both BarbaraD and Linda Howell tried my demand valve to abort a hit. Both of them just about fell off their chair, with shock, at how fast they were able to abort. Now both of them have the system, and swear by it. It has improved their quality of life, enormously, and that is what we are all trying to do, right?
Has my long winded diatribe helped explain it, Bob? I would be happy to discuss it further, either here on on the phone, if you wish.
Chuck
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