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Feb 10th, 2009 at 12:55am
 
Friends, fellow cluster headache sufferers, supporters, and guests, let me first start by offering my apologies if the following offends you.  I offer it merely as a sad commentary of our times.  You’ll either need to get used to what’s coming next from the most corrupt Marxist administration and socialist Congress in our Nations history, or start now preparing your vote to elect a new congress and president at the soonest.

The chosen one proved beyond any doubt last night in his prime time teleconference debut, that the liberals and a few million deluded voters in the middle of the political spectrum have elected an idiot.  His messianic ruminations last night were not only boring liberal rhetorical lies for the most part, they were also downright frightening campaign speeches from the bully pulpit.  He was doing little more that selling his so called stimulus package as a bag of gold when it’s really a pig in a poke, but he had the audacity to think we would all would agree with him.

I was particularly moved by his scholarly comment that most people can't read a doctor’s prescription as a key reason to support his so called stimulus package a.k.a. the liberal porkulus package.  This astounding comment only shows the depth of the chosen one's ignorance and his profoundly challenged mental capacity to lead.  It was also painfully clear to me he's totally unaware that prescriptions are written in Latin terms and usually in shorthand.

Given the total failure of public education, and the fact that even the obamanoid himself is unaware of this simple fact of medicine, we can only guess what comes next.

We can only hope the Marxist idiot continues to add funding to abortion as one area where our tax dollars are well spent.  He's obviously not satisfied with an abortion rate as the highest blood right of liberalism responsible for the deaths of nearly 50 million American fetuses since 1973, that he took the effort to reverse previous Republican administration presidential acts by authorizing $400 million in funding to Mexico to help them abort more defenseless fetuses even faster in his first week in office.

This is one area where true Americans who believe in freedom, justice, and the American way should rejoice and offer enthusiastic support for this liberal act of barbaric human sacrifice that would make the Mayan and Aztec nations blanch in jealousy.

Since Roe vs Wade was enacted in 1972 and ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court in 1973, liberals have also been responsible for the abortion deaths of 15 million potential voters that could have voted in the last election. As 90% of these abortions came from the lowest socioeconomic part of our population that traditionally votes liberal, the liberals have cleverly removed over 13 million liberal voters from the rolls that would have cast their votes for even more liberal candidates.  At this rate liberals will abort themselves out of office in as few as 10 years.

We should also make it a point to publicize this amazing feat of liberalism's mastery in taking freedom from its disciples and the proletariat to all aliens of Hispanic origin. We need to make sure all Hispanic immigrants, legal or illegal, know for a fact, that liberals will go to any lengths to abort any pregnancy, at any time, at faster rates than any government in the history of the world.  Moreover, we need to make sure they know that liberals make this marvelous public service available to all illegal aliens at no cost.  BTW less than 3% of these abortions were due to rape, incest, or to save the lives of the mother.

From the change we are seeing in the first few weeks of his administration, and the fact that his messianic proclamations are proving more vapid with each passing day, it’s none the less becoming painfully clear the chosen one will make sure we will soon be called The People’s Republic of the Socialist States of America with no boarders between Tierra del Fuego and the North Pole.

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Please think…  Be critical in your analysis…  Then act.  A call, email, or fax to your Senators could make a tremendous difference in the outcome of the present so called stimulation package when it comes to a final vote in the Senate in the next day or two.    

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Reply #1 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:30am
 
Well... with all of those stem cells now available... maybe they'll find a cure or treatment for CH, Hodgkin's disease, Alzeimers, Parkinsons, and a host of other illnesses. Just a thought.

As cold and callous as that may sound and as opposed as I am to abortion as a flippant form of birth control... I still stand by my opinion that a right to choose is right.

Pro choice is not necessarily pro abortion.

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Reply #2 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:42am
 
I think the landslide victory in the election gives Obama political capital. 
It's a mandate.

Besides, if Obama laid an American flag on the ground, covered it with the Constitution and then took a shit on it as he was putting his forehead on the ground in the direction of Mecca, it would STILL be a big improvement over the last 8 years. 

Baby steps, my friend.  I know you are itching to get these problems solved quick, but we gotta take 1 step at a time.........

And stay the course.

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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 6:18am
 
Batch, my friend - You've gotta stop holding back. It's gonna eat you up inside.
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Wow... Shocked

My only comment is that very very few doctors use Latin in prescriptions today.

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Reply #5 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 8:47am
 
So is funding Mexican abortions his answer to the border problem  Undecided

I am appalled by abortion.  But I'll not take a woman's right to choose away either.  Having said that, using my tax dollars to fund it is wrong.

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Reply #6 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 8:58am
 
Was abortion part of the news conference or his Indiana speech?........I hope not. It wrecked politics nearly 40 years ago.

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Reply #7 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:24am
 
While prescriptions are very rarely written in Latin anymore--the dosage instruction part of the prescription is indeed written in 100% Latin abbreviations. So Obama will probably include Latin classes for everyone in his Stimulus Package. I am not only appalled by Abortion--I am appalled that this president made his first official act as president an easing of abortion restrictions abroad. I also believe that we as Americans are a stupid group of people who embraced someone who had very limited credentials, and made him the second coming. He is the president--and I pray that we thrive as a nation. I also pray that all nominees pay their taxes--or --at least have someone who DOES THEIR DAMN HOMEWORK- on someone's past before they ask to have a nation support them.
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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:50am
 
My Friend Zwibby said:
" I am not only appalled by Abortion--I am appalled that this president made his first official act as president an easing of abortion restrictions abroad. I also believe that we as Americans are a stupid group of people who embraced someone who had very limited credentials, and made him the second coming. He is the president--and I pray that we thrive as a nation. I also pray that all nominees pay their taxes--or --at least have someone who DOES THEIR DAMN HOMEWORK- on someone's past before they ask to have a nation support them."/quote]

I like those statements........but, may I elaborate?? Ease abortion restrictions....err... OUT OF THE COUNTRY??????  Ok, now I've gotta put the brakes on.......so, let's back the truck up, can we? I used to ask my kids, "if you are soo worried about what your friends are doing, who's taking time to worry about YOU?" Point being, we need to take care of ourselves first....interesting how this fits into national/International Politics...Frankly, in the current climate, we need to focus on our OWN crisis, not some foreign countries'....once we are all settled with that, maybe we can look to our neighboring countries to help in some way.....FOR NOW, at least, let's put out our fires at home, THEN we can discuss just how far we as a country are willing to help other countries deal with their abortion issues. OR ANY OTHER issues they might have.
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2-Past that is none of my decision

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We got trouble, right here in River City(The Music Man). I support our efforts to resolve our financial/moral/medical and any other issues before we look to any other country to determine what they might need!

As usual, don't bite me....coz it's just my devalued 2 cents.......
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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:56am
 
Abortion is one of those things......My neighbor would vote for the the Unibomber if his politics were pro-life.

One of the sad things is that the most determined pro-lifers have, in effect, educated people on it. By explaining how dangerous it is by example, they've in fact shown people, not well-educated on such things, that's something done frequently and as a result, to seekout competent practioners. I never heard of it until I was 24 when all this started.

It's certainly nothing to be happy about in any event.

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Has everyone seen the latest news on Nadya Suleman lately?  It appears she had/has been recieving public assistance before deciding to have 8 more babies.  Does anyone here feel that she should have maybe aborted some of those fetuses?  Let us also keep in mind, the eggs are fertilized outside of the body and by failing to put them into the womb, would have also been essentially aborting the embryos...

 
Regardless of how you answer this question it was her choice and now we are going to be picking up the tab for 14 kids, and some of them for their entire lives with their use of SSI for their disabilities.

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Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 10:54am
 
If you are Catholic, I fully understand a position on abortion and the abolition of the death penalty. I have to say that I admire this consistency rather than picking and choosing. No one should like abortion. I don't but it has always been around for those than can afford it. It isn't something created in 1970. It's wrecked politics and results in lots of unqualified legislators that get elected on pro life issues only and make things worse, mostly for women.

Years ago, I barely knew what abortion was and never heard it called that. Once it became something other than a moral issue, the whole world learned everything about it. It's pro-lifers that have brought out all this information in incredible detail with thousands of articles, literature and television programs so even people with little knowledge of it, know that it's an option and not as hard as it once was to obtain. What they've done is to make it more common.

They've explained scores of abortion methods, who provides it, all the things that can happen if you're not careful, drugs, doctors, clinics, history, frequency, ways to do it yourself, make known people who will do it for nothing, what politicians to back to keep abortion legal, what states to go to for help, timing, who and how much quacks may charge for illegal and dangerous procedures, even information not readily known to some clinics and a doctor or two.

Once abortion is illegal, the frequency of partial birth abortion will increase. Poor or desperate women who want abortion will hide their pregnancy and try to do it themselves or likely use some unqualified help. There will be more truly frightening discoveries in dumpsters....along with a huge increase in deadly botched abortions leaving the remaining children in some families, homeless and some likely stuck with unqualified relatives and even some others that barely tolerate kids in the first place.

Making abortion a punishable offense has serious unintended consequences. Grown children, in this mess aren't likely to benefit from visiting imprisoned parents.  It won't make for well-adjusted kids. They will grow up hating the judical system and respect for authority. Education, employment and socialization will be more difficult for them.

It would swamp the judicial system and law enforcement. Are we to build more prisons for the tens of thousands of convicted parents? These things, for the most part, have been overlooked but made more likely by the very groups that are so concerned about protection of our children and family values.

In short: Pre-birth, you name it, you got it. Pre-school: Are you nuts?! You're on your own but morally sound. Anti-abortion politics does not conform to simplistic thinking and should not be confused with wisdom.

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Has everyone seen the latest news on Nadya Suleman lately?  It appears she had/has been recieving public assistance before deciding to have 8 more babies.  Does anyone here feel that she should have maybe aborted some of those fetuses?  Let us also keep in mind, the eggs are fertilized outside of the body and by failing to put them into the womb, would have also been essentially aborting the embryos...

 
Regardless of how you answer this question it was her choice and now we are going to be picking up the tab for 14 kids, and some of them for their entire lives with their use of SSI for their disabilities.

Thomas    

What's your point? Is it that killing the innocent bystanders in this mess will somehow magically clean up the mess that is their mother?

The path of least resistance....
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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:15am
 
Hmm…  Well, liberalism is a mental disorder…  And Bush Derangement Syndrome has now been acknowledged by the psychiatric profession as being just as debilitating and destructive as post traumatic shock syndrome…  so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at some of the comments…  

I just find it interesting that the very same liberals you expect to fix the present problem were responsible for defending Roe vs Wade and nearly 50 million abortions.  These same criminals were also the architects of the social experiment called Sub-Prime that ended in the Fannie and Freddie debacle of selling home loans to folks on welfare.  

BTW…It wasn’t those horrible bankers that did this to us…   It was your government under the Clintonoids that was holding a gun to the heads of these bankers telling them to make these stupid loans or go to jail.  

“Some banks have simply not done business in minority neighborhoods, while others charge higher rates or add extra charges to their loans in minority areas.  We have used a two-prong approach to address this problem.  First we have worked with the banking industry that wants to do right to reform their practices, and, secondly, for those who thumbed their noses, we have sued them and we are going to do whatever is necessary.”   Janet – Shoot’em up at Ruby Ridge and Waco Texas – Reno bragging in a speech about her accomplishment as Attorney General, Jan 15, 1997.

Oh yes…  For those of you who think the obamanoid’s so called stimulation package is going to help you in your old age… not so fast…  Moreover, if you think your health care will improve because of this 767 page POS legislation, take one step back…  The sneaky bastards have slipped in some very dangerous health care provisions under the guise of “Automated Medical Records Keeping” with your government maintaining the system and watching your medical treatments…  and you thought FISA wiretaps were an invasion of your privacy…

“Health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.”  You can thank another tax cheat, Tom Daschle for this smelly turd and he didn’t even make it into the Marxist cabinet, but he did insert it into the porkulus package.  How clever…

What they slipped in to the porkulus package is the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology.  This new bureaucracy will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective…  and if your illness and the medications needed to treat it are not on the list…  You got it…  NO COVERAGE under Medicare or Medicaid and that will also affect all doctors and private medical insurance.  

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The porkulus bill as written would change that and apply a cost-effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council…  not your doctor…  Wait until you see what that does to your coverage for imitrex and oxygen...

The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid. The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined.

There is a bright side to this form of social medicine…  When you get too old to work in the government gulags and you’ve got a chronic illness that’s too expensive to treat, you will not need to suffer too long as your government funded social medicine will see to it that euthanasia is made available to you at no extra cost…  As euthanasia goes hand in hand with abortion…  liberals should be ecstatic…

Finally for you youngsters and others that never studied history…  Think about this…   Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev, the president of the Soviet Union came to the US in 1960 to speak at the United Nations General Assembly and banged his shoe on the podium declaring to the people of the United States, "We will bury you!"

How prophetic…   If you liken our great Nation to an airliner that just took off from Regan National with comrade president obama at the controls, and he’s just caused both engines (the economy) to fail because he was dumping porkulus propaganda on Washington DC and it was ingested by both engines…  He’s going to put us in the drink and the outcome will not be anywhere as good as Sully’s ditching maneuver in the Hudson…

The Marxist lead socialists in the Senate are voting in less than an hour…

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Reply #14 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:57am
 
Batch wrote on Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:15am:
[size=18]Hmm…  Well, liberalism is a mental disorder…  And Bush Derangement Syndrome has now been acknowledged by the psychiatric profession as being just as debilitating and destructive as post traumatic shock syndrome…


You should walk the walk and think critically (as you exhort others to do).  Bush derangement syndrome is not recognized by the psychiatric profession - it is a term created by right wingers to try to defuse any and all criticism of Bush. As a political phenomenon, it is as 'real' as Clinton derangement syndrome and Obama derangement syndrome, and you seem to display symptoms of the latter.

What is the connection between economics and abortion? There isn't one, but that won't stop some opportunists from trying to link them.

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I was particularly moved by his scholarly comment that most people can't read a doctor’s prescription as a key reason to support his so called stimulus package a.k.a. the liberal porkulus package.  This astounding comment only shows the depth of the chosen one's ignorance and his profoundly challenged mental capacity to lead.  It was also painfully clear to me he's totally unaware that prescriptions are written in Latin terms and usually in shorthand.


The big problem is that mistakes are made when filling prescriptions (often a handwriting issue, especially when there are two or more very different drugs with similar names) - if the US is better than a third world nation, we should develop a system where the prescription is clearly printed and coded so that communication to the pharmacist and patient is as close to error-free as possible ... the FDA estimated that 98,000 people are killed each year from medical errors. If a standardized prescription process could shave 5 thousand off that, it would be a good thing!  And it makes no sense to stop with prescription information - medical records in general should be standardized and computerized.


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Batch wrote on Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:15am:
[size=18]Hmm…  Well, liberalism is a mental disorder…  And Bush Derangement Syndrome has now been acknowledged by the psychiatric profession as being just as debilitating and destructive as post traumatic shock syndrome…  so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at some of the comments…  



Everyone is entitled to their own political beliefs and should be able to express them without ridicule.

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As of 1:39 PM Eastern Time--It looks like Wall Street simply adores the Obama Stimulus Package--Down 349 Points.
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Has everyone seen the latest news on Nadya Suleman lately?  It appears she had/has been receiving public assistance before deciding to have 8 more babies.  Does anyone here feel that she should have maybe aborted some of those fetuses?  Let us also keep in mind, the eggs are fertilized outside of the body and by failing to put them into the womb, would have also been essentially aborting the embryos...

 
Regardless of how you answer this question it was her choice and now we are going to be picking up the tab for 14 kids, and some of them for their entire lives with their use of SSI for their disabilities.

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What's your point? Is it that killing the innocent bystanders in this mess will somehow magically clean up the mess that is their mother?

The path of least resistance....


No Brew, I believe my point was: regardless of how you feel about abortion we are all paying the price for her choices and those of her doctors.  The mess goes way beyond the mother in this situation, and it will probably happen again.  There are some things in life people just need to accept.  

For all you Pro lifers here, there are situations that call for abortion whether you like it or not.  If McCain won the election and Palin got her way in making most types of abortion illegal, abortions would still happen illegally.  Nothing you can do about it one way or the other.  Time to move on to something that can be changed.

For all the Pro choicers Here, there are situations where someone else should be making choices.  Should we really leave it up to people like this to choose it is okay to have 14 kids.  I don't think so, but if it is not okay for her to have 14 kids while on government assistance, Is it okay for anyone to have any kids while on government assistance?  Happens all the time and what is being done about that?  When will Human Rights include that when you are brought into our overcrowded world that you will have the means provided for you to support your life...  

It is a shitty situation and not much can be done to stop it no more than world hunger.  And the path of least resistance was avoided long ago when they decided to start planting embryos in her, otherwise, barren body.  I believe we should accept the things we cannot change and focus on the things we can change...I for one think we should look at and redefine what human rights really are, but I think we have much bigger, more important issues to be dealing with in the world first.     

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Has everyone seen the latest news on Nadya Suleman lately?  It appears she had/has been receiving public assistance before deciding to have 8 more babies.  Does anyone here feel that she should have maybe aborted some of those fetuses?  Let us also keep in mind, the eggs are fertilized outside of the body and by failing to put them into the womb, would have also been essentially aborting the embryos...

 
Regardless of how you answer this question it was her choice and now we are going to be picking up the tab for 14 kids, and some of them for their entire lives with their use of SSI for their disabilities.

Thomas    

What's your point? Is it that killing the innocent bystanders in this mess will somehow magically clean up the mess that is their mother?

The path of least resistance....


No Brew, I believe my point was: regardless of how you feel about abortion we are all paying the price for her choices and those of her doctors.  The mess goes way beyond the mother in this situation, and it will probably happen again.  There are some things in life people just need to accept.  

For all you Pro lifers here, there are situations that call for abortion whether you like it or not.  If McCain won the election and Palin got her way in making most types of abortion illegal, abortions would still happen illegally.  Nothing you can do about it one way or the other.  Time to move on to something that can be changed.

For all the Pro choicers Here, there are situations where someone else should be making choices.  Should we really leave it up to people like this to choose it is okay to have 14 kids.  I don't think so, but if it is not okay for her to have 14 kids while on government assistance, Is it okay for anyone to have any kids while on government assistance?  Happens all the time and what is being done about that?  When will Human Rights include that when you are brought into our overcrowded world that you will have the means provided for you to support your life...  

It is a shitty situation and not much can be done to stop it no more than world hunger.  And the path of least resistance was avoided long ago when they decided to start planting embryos in her, otherwise, barren body.  I believe we should accept the things we cannot change and focus on the things we can change...I for one think we should look at and redefine what human rights really are, but I think we have much bigger, more important issues to be dealing with in the world first.     

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I've noticed Thomas (Icedragon) has been a frequent proponent of civil consideration in the past.  While being entitled to opinions, I'd be most difficult to agree ridicule applies.
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I love the hypocracy.  Bias as it's finest.
Clinton is the gift that is STILL giving........yet references to Bush are considered a psychological disorder.    

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It was your government under the Clintonoids that was holding a gun to the heads of these bankers telling them to make these stupid loans or go to jail.  

Aside from the fact that is factually, figuratively and literally incorrect, why didn't Bush Jr do anything to remove the 'gun from the bankers' heads'?  

I love how taxing the rich and giving to the poor is considered the worst act anyone could ever do, then when Sarah Palin puts an extra tax on oil and gives an extra $1200 to each Alaskan citizen on top of their $2000 yearly check, that is considered a great conservative idea from a great republican governor.   Smiley

I love how giving tax money to abortion clinics is considered horrendous because there is no reason why government should get involved family issues, yet Bush Jr gave tax money to religious based family planning clinics and believes government should get involved in family issues.   Smiley

I especially loved how when those who did not wish to invade Iraq said those who do wish to invade Iraq can pay for it were called Anti-American, yet when those who do not wish to spend $850billion say those who do wish to spend $850billion can pay for it they are considered true patriots.   Smiley

I love how the phrase "Bush Jr is the worst President we have ever had" is treasonous, disrespectful, and hateful, while calling the new President an idiot and a bastard is not considered treasonous, disrespectful, or hateful.   Smiley

I love how a democratic filibuster is considered nothing more than whining while a republican filibuster is considered a useful tool on which America was based.  


It's silly....but I guess it's easier to rant based on horseshit and emotion rather than reason or facts.  


Bias at it's finest.
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Reply #23 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 6:02pm
 
B$, Many of us who oppose the current Marxist administration are not defending Bush OR Clinton. In my opinion, they are all cut from the same cloth, and they might as well burn our constitution instead of pretending that we have one in effect.

In 3 weeks, our glorious leader has managed to spend more money than any human in history.  EVER.  Money that does not exist, by the way.  This cannot possibly be a good thing.
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There is a difference between Republicans and true Conservatives, just as there is a difference between Democrats and true Liberals.

IMHO, both parties have been taken over by "undesirables" as seen from each side. Short of a complete overhaul, I don't see real solutions forthcoming and the USA is entering a flat spin that scares the hell out of me.

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