Could be. I'll take a chance though. Canada, Britain and the rest of most civilized countries must have some experience with this? No one there seems to have been locked out a portal so far.

Charlie

Sophia,

Thank you for the objective comments.  Reading a post from someone with first hand experience in both private and government systems of medical health care here in the US and Denmark offers a perspective people need to understand.  

The part where you say health care in Denmark is free after you pay 35% tax contrasted with "many Danes dying waiting for chemotherapy and things like that," illustrates a reality of government run health care too many people here in the US choose to ignore.  

It's only human nature to want something of value for free.  However, in reality, there is always a price that must be paid.  If that price is too high, unfairly levied, and it comes at the expense of freedoms lost, then people need to be very critical. That also makes the notion of national health care, it's cost and consequences, something we all need to understand.

Unfortunately, there are hundreds of provisions for national health care contained in the $878 Billion stimulus bill passed earlier this year by a Congress that didn't even bother to read it.  Moreover, that legislation made well over 100 amendments to existing legislation.  Not one of these provisions dealt with medical tort reform or placed a limit on medical law suits.  Nor did they remove any 1000 Federal mandates for coverage that drive the cost of private health insurance out of sight.

When you combine these changes to public law with the hundreds more contained in the over 800 pages of legislation for national health care being drafted by the liberals in Congress, the citizens of the United States are going to be giving up far more than just the estimated $1.2 Trillion dollar cost to tax payers along with a $313 Billion cut in Medicare coverage over the next 10 years for a system that will ration our medical care...  What is even more disturbing is the present leadership in congress and the present administration want to provide this health care to illegal aliens for free...  at your expense...  

If you'll take the time to read these two pieces of legislation, you'll see that too many freedoms are going to be lost when none should be lost at all.
Were is the common sense?

I hope everyone takes a very critical and common sense look at both sides of this issue, then take a look at Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Fixing these three entitlement programs will up the tax towards 100% for generations.  If they come up with the same disturbing conclusions, the only real action is to call, email, and fax members of Congress telling them to stop this insanity or seek employment elsewhere come election time.

Most people live on a budget...  Unfortunately, the leadership in congress and the present administration do not.  They freely overspend our tax dollars effectively saying "They" know better than we do in how to spend our hard earned tax dollars.

As a final note, please recall that Medicare will not cover the cost of oxygen therapy...  As the national health care legislation is patterned after Medicare, guess what will not be covered...

Thanks again for the great comments and take care,

V/R, Batch

Shawn,

What I hear you saying is the good idea cut off time has come and gone with respect to fixing health care, but there's no limitation on bad ideas...  Have I got that right?

Take care,

V/R, Batch

Shawn,

Please tell us who says it is unpatriotic and selfish to protest a rogue Congress that's forgotten who they work for, and that can't do anything but vote itself pay raises and free medical care at the best military medical facilities for life?  

Please tell us why is it unpatriotic and selfish to protest a Congress that can't pass a budget unless it has the single largest deficit in history of the world all because a Marxist trained community organizer wants socialist inspired redistribution of wealth and a single payer government health care bill.  

Why is it selfish to protest the pending National Health Care legislation that will saddle all US tax payers with generational debt, make deep cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, and destroy private health care while it provides free health care to unregistered and illegal aliens who reside in the United States?  

I just heard Obama say peaceful protest is a universal right.  Gotta name please?

Take care,

V/R, Batch

Kevin,

You still haven't given us the answer to the question WHO?

The preliminary CBO analysis of Universal Health Care a.k.a. "Kennedy’s Health Care Bill" that came out yesterday indicates it will result in a net increase in Federal deficits by $1 Trillion dollars for 2010 through 2019.  Please go to the following link for the full CBO estimate, download and read:

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If you read it carefully, the "Kennedy Bill"/"Affordable Health Choices Act" will cover 16 million presently uninsured folks for a Trillion Dollars over 10 years so the real expense is going to be much higher under Universal Health Care or the "health care exchange" as Obama now calls it to provide health care to the rest of the uninsured...  

If you do the math, that works out to over $60,000 per person over 10 years ($6,000 a year per person - That's more than three times what Joyce was paying for full coverage under Blue Cross/Blue Shield and if you add in long term care it's still a thousand dollars more a year.) just to get 16 million of the 47 million presently uninsured people covered with health care at our expense...  

What a deal!!!  But, as there's no Tort reform and you'll need start paying for it with increased taxes now so 20 years later... it might be a good deal... then again...  it might not...  That make sense????

BTW, Medicare is already rationing coverage for procedures and medications for some 83 million senior citizens 65 and older...  

I think you'll find the Medicare plan below that's already in process cuts more than 50% in home oxygen therapy coverage for over a million COPD sufferers by 2011, very illuminating... and they still don't cover oxygen therapy as a treatment for cluster headaches...

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What makes you think universal health a.k.a. Obama's "health care exchange" will be any better or that Joanie's gall bladder won't land her in the queue waiting behind all the illegal aliens for a government provided surgeon contracted at McDonald's wages from a 3rd world country?

Finally, you and I both know the only letter that crosses a congressman's desk and prompts any action is one that promises campaign donations or support for a pet earmark...  

However, having said that, when the idiots in Congress realize how pissed the voters are becoming over the horrific costs and loss of freedoms associated with this smelly mess, Obama's health care exchange, as briefed to the AMA yesterday, will go down the drain faster than a turd in Dina's Dumper...

Take care,

V/R, Batch

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Charlie

Yup. Almost as effective as unbridled free market health care solutions.

Charlie