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Re: Unsuppotive Partner
Reply #25 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:14pm
 
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If thats what it took for someone to finally understand your pain, your really telling me that for a couple hours of life, to change your relationship forever, you would'nt do it???
I find that hard to believe. I actually said it to him on the phone, earlier today & you know what he said?? At least I'd be @ work.

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2 things:  Why do you feel such a need to make him understand exactly what you are feeling?  He can't.  We can't.  I suffer from clusters and i cannot imagine your pain.  We aren't you.

If you say clusters are debilitating and he says he would be at work if he had clusters, it shows a lack of trust.  He does not trust you, and he does not believe you when you say clusters are overwhelming. 

Maybe you should kick him in the balls, and when he is doubled over in pain, tell him that if you got kicked in the balls you would be mowing the lawn. 
He might then realize he has no idea what he is talking about, and sounds childish.


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Reply #26 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:21pm
 
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"should just get a job & have my clusters there".


Is the lack of a job the elephant in the room?
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Reply #27 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:24pm
 
Maybe the ch is just the icing on the cake for him (or, rather the straw that broke the camels' back?).  I'm not defending him for what he said, it was hurtful and unwarranted.  That being said, I gather that you've pretty much been disabled for well over a year?  Knee surgery and you also have back and neck pain that may be enough to warrant surgery.  It may be that he's becoming desensitized to you being in pain and doesn't realize the depth of pain clusters can cause.  Maybe you need to tell him exactly how you are feeling (DO NOT accuse him of doing something wrong {as in, you did so and so and made me feel so and so,} that will only make him defensive and won't resolve anything. Keep the discussion to *I* feel <insert whatever> here.

And remember, the hardest lesson of all (and most people never really master it), noone ever *makes* you feel any certain way, you choose to react to whatever was said or done.

And I'm going to agree with Jackie about feeling the emotional and mental pain.  It's hell to watch someone you love and care about go through unmitigated hell with pain and there's not a damned thing you can do about it.  We/I feel so helpless about what's going on, and we/I can't fix it.

Supporter to not one but two people with very different problems.
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Re: Unsuppotive Partner
Reply #28 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:34pm
 
Not to be crude... but if he has not gotten it yet... chances are "He ain't gonna get it."... apply for disability or go on welfare or both... if you're sticking around for the financial support... there ain't enough money in the world that warrants staying with such a cold uncaring person IMHO... it does your soul, and emotional well being way to much harm.

I know you haven't asked for advice but... at the risk of being an a$$hole I'll give it anyway... get rid of the jerk... he doesn't deserve you and you don't deserve the abuse.

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Reply #29 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:58pm
 
Hi Deb and welcome. I cannot add too much more than what all the others had already said. I will offer to you though, a shoulder any time and an ear when you need to talk or vent.

We are all in this together and this family is the best thing to ever happen to me and my wife Angie and it will be your new home too. PF wishes to you. Hang in there.

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Re: Unsuppotive Partner
Reply #30 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 7:12pm
 
Beemonie you made me laugh my ass off. In a nutshell, I think your  the only one who make a parallel. Thanks for making me laugh.I mean LAUGH !!!. Smiley Smiley

Any how, I literally put the "letter" on his dinner plate and asked him to read it. He did. When he was through he said " so just stay away from you"? Then we slow danced in the living room . Go figure. You men R so damned had to figure out. OK after jeopardy it's talkie time wish me luck.

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Reply #31 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 7:19pm
 
I hope your talk goes well. 

Always know that you have people here who are willing to listen and support you.   Even though we sometimes (often) disagree, we are still family and are here for one another.  Like it or not, you are one of us now!

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Reply #32 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 7:27pm
 
Deb, hi  and welcome.

I read this earlier. I re-read it, and read it again, and still struggle with a response.

My husband is one that "doesn't get it" and sometimes I wonder which stresses me more-  the onset of a new cycle or having to deal with his reaction.

I think he finally got a clue how to deal with my ch once he met a bunch of clusterheads (here at my house) and he saw people getting hit and the fact that noone freaked out over it, and we helped each other calmly and caringly.  He'd never BEEN THAT to me, so to see others be supportive, it was foreign and a bit overwhelming for him. Now at least he is not so quick to accuse me of not doing enough to stop the attacks.

I can't say "stay" and things will get better, chances are likely that your fiance will remain one who "doesn't get it" and you'll be facing the same pre-cycle stress I do.

I guess what I want you to know is regardless of whether this guy you're with is supportive or not, you DO have a wonderful support system here, with us.  These people here have pulled me through some tough cycles, new treatments, the depression, the anger, and shared the joy of cycle's end.  And I got through quite well without my partner's help or support.

The only one who can make the relationship call is you. But regardless of where you end up,  you still have all of us, at any time, day or night.

A special prayer for you, my dear new sister- for peace, guidance, strength, understanding, and wisdom.

Welcome.

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Re: Unsuppotive Partner
Reply #33 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:29pm
 
As bad as the beast is, trying to get people to understand that this has no resemblance to what people think of as a headache, is nearly as bad. It can't be done of course, they can come here for a looksee....if for no other reason than to learn that you aren't lying about this horror.

I don't get it.

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Re: Unsuppotive Partner
Reply #34 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:44pm
 

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Beemonie you made me laugh my ass off.


Our monee man sure does have a way with words doesn't he Deb? 

   I wouldn't want him any other way.
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Reply #35 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:54pm
 
these posts piss me off the most.  Tell him how many grown men and tough ass broads on this site are brought to their knees in pain.  It is possible he thinks you are exagerating but he needs to know that fact.

Now forget about him.  What you doing for meds?  Not sure if you posted this info any where.  Are you using O2
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Reply #36 - Feb 21st, 2009 at 4:50am
 
Deb,

You said you've been in this relationship for 12 years and you love him dearly and that he loves you. Guess I feel differently than some of the others here.

I've gone thru years of chronic pain (since 97) and have had NO supporters except this bunch here on ch.com. My husband had a massive stroke a few months before I went chronic, so he never understood ANYONE could be suffereing but him. He was verbally abusive if I even showed signs of CH (even to the point of calling and cussing out my neuro a few times - to get me well so I could take care of him). I learned to deal with it. But I had to change my attitude and accept that he wasn't going to support me and that I was on my own with the CH. AFter I did that we got along a lot better. But that's what you do when you love a person - you accept what you can't change.

For eight years before his death, I watched him deterioate and suffer and it hurts to watch someone you love hurt and not be able to do anything about it. Being a supporter is not easy - trust me and it takes some getting used to. Give him some time and have a little patience. You hurt, but he's hurting to watching you hurt.

Don't lose communications ... And when you're not hurting, don't forget to give him a lot of hugs for just being there.

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Reply #37 - Feb 21st, 2009 at 6:46pm
 
Hi Debs,

Hoping your chat has gone ok. Welcome to ch.com. My supporter also doesn't get what this place is about, but that's fine because this is my place to come and rant and rave away from this. I figure, he puts up with quite enough being my supporter (and my fiance Grin) and having the folks here who get what it's all about to vent to if needs be is a lifesaver for both me and him. He doesn't have to take ALL the flak now, just some of it!!!  Wink

My supporter and I have a plan. Energy drink/ice pack/coffee/o2 all prepared and then I can take what combo I want and leave the rest. Then (if I haven't made it there) he'll take me to the bedroom and either wait it out (at a safe distance!) with me or leave me to it. Most of the time, I don't know if he's there or not and I think the decision as to whether he stays or not depends entirely on him - can he face seeing it or not. It may be a good idea to do the same with your other half. That way, he knows you're trying to deal with it too, instead of just getting your ass kicked and waiting it out.

Our supporters have to be tough and they too need a rest. But you shouldn't have to battle with someone who loves you when suffering with something like this.

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Reply #38 - Feb 21st, 2009 at 7:38pm
 
I am glad you got so many wise ideas from the board here.  There probably isn't alot more I can tell you except make him come here.  This website has been a God send to our family and helps us through some terrible CH cycles... God bless and hope that you find some comfort in what you read here.

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Reply #39 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 7:40pm
 
I WANT TO THANK  all of you who replied. It has certaintly given me a broad spectrum of the lives of your supporters/non supporters. Some of U have made me laugh my ass off. Some have really hit home, most. But some who told me to RUN, well I should have been more clear in the facts of our relationship, to begin with. Sorry about that .You know what UR pissed & no one is feeling you , you just come out with it & hit POST.

Since giving him the letter, he has show a better understanding of this
damned thing. Not total understanding, which I can not expect (selfish of me)But, maybe in time he will. Hell it's taken me months to figure out myself.

Thanks Again- Deb Smiley
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Reply #40 - Feb 24th, 2009 at 12:10am
 
Hey Deb...

Sorry to hear that the beast is slowly tearing your head open with his vile claws and is pouring salt into the open wound before sewing it back up with a white hot, dull, rusty nail.  Welcome to the asylum.

I have been getting attacks for about as long as I can remember, but I didn't get a Dx until a couple few years ago... My supporter at the time never understood, and never really even tried.  I found this place and finally found out what having supporters was like.  I tried numerous times to convice her to visit the site and talk to other supporters, but that was always met with, "Maybe tomorrow," or "I'm busy," then eventually, "I don't need to talk to your friends." 

We argued constantly about CH, missing time at work, the outtings that would get interrupted, and, of course, the time I spent at CH.com talking to the only ppl I knew who would understand what I was going through.  The last few years that we were together, I figured out it was better for the relationship to just hide my attacks and suffer in silence.  Unfortunately, all it did was make my last years with her a living hell.  We still fought all the time, but at least I didn't have to hear everyday that I should just get over it and stop using CH as a crutch.

She ended up leaving me a few years ago.  Now I'm engaged to a wonderful woman.  She has clusters too, so she more than understands what I go through.  The bad thing is... Having to see someone I love going through the pain of CH breaks my heart every time she gets an attack.  I wish there was a way I could take them away from her, so she wouldn't have to worry about them anymore.  It's bad to experience this pain physically... but it's so much harder to see a loved one living with it.

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Reply #41 - Feb 25th, 2009 at 1:55pm
 
To the other old-timers here.  Doesn't this style of writing sound VERY familiar?    Smiley

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Sorry to hear that the beast is slowly tearing your head open with his vile claws and is pouring salt into the open wound before sewing it back up with a white hot, dull, rusty nail.  Welcome to the asylum.


O.K. Azarel...fess up.  You've been here a while, haven't you?  and under a different name.

If I am correct....I'm so glad to see you back.  If I'm not correct, then you have no idea of what I'm talking about and probably think I've lost my marbles, so I apologize in advance.   Grin

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Reply #42 - Feb 25th, 2009 at 2:37pm
 
Linda...er, thought he was outed a long time ago.. definitely Kenn.. formerly known as Drk Angel.  Lots of clues in his profile if you look.
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Reply #43 - Feb 25th, 2009 at 2:54pm
 
Yep Dark Angel it was.  Don't remember that he was "outed" as you say.  I also don't recall the name Kenn.  The only thing that I did recognize was that distinctive style of writing.


Sorry Deb.  Didn't mean to hijack.
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Reply #44 - Feb 25th, 2009 at 9:42pm
 
I don't want to make waves, but I have no problem with you wanting your man to experience the pain for himself, especially after failing to get him to understand any other way.  The point is moot, though, since there's no way to pull off that hat trick.  But it's not about wanting him to feel pain, it's about wanting him to understand what you go through.  (On the flip side, how is kicking him in the tender vittles ok?   Grin )

I have to say that I understand how frustrating this is for you.  My fiance is still going through an adjustment period, too (I just got diagnosed this past October.)  I think they, as supporters, have to go through the same steps of acceptance of this disease as we do, to some extent, and perhaps he is still wavering in the "anger" and "disbelief" departments.

My guy is getting a lot better, and I know he loves me, but we had some rough days a few months ago when he was still learning about CH and trying to define his role in this drama, as well as learning what to expect from me as a partner.  He said some pretty ugly things a few times.  Roll Eyes  I think you have to evaluate these incidents in light of his overall character and against the other 12 years of his behavior.

And I like what someone said about the elephant in the room...that came up with my guy, too;  you need to have a frank talk with him about all of the non-CH things are are upsetting each of you and get clear on them, because even without CH on your back there are things that can tear a relationship apart.

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Reply #45 - Feb 25th, 2009 at 9:50pm
 
Peppermint wrote on Feb 25th, 2009 at 2:37pm:
 Lots of clues in his profile if you look.


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