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Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:16am
 
Hi

My fiance, who in the past I called my financial rock.  I guess has had it with everything. He has tried, I guess in his own way, to be supportive about my being sick. I directed him to this site last week & he has yet to take a look & not for a lack of time.

This morning he told me I "should just get a job & have my clusters there". What an not a very nice person. I was soooooo pissed & refused to fight with him (stress being a huge trigger 4 me), I went into the bathroom until he left 4 work.

I am so sick & tired of being sick & tired. I feel like I am just stuck in the corner of a room with no escape. How could anyone think that someone would WANT to have this fucking disease??????????????????
I wish that he could have it just for 1 day.

How do you handle/be with, someone like this??? I feel like packing it in, up whatever. And then what?? Go.........where??

Deb Cry
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Reply #1 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:22am
 
Couselling. You're not even married yet and you're getting zero support from him. You need to find out soon if he's going to continue to offer you zero support so you can get out now. A couple's therapist will help you get to the root of that.

You need to find out if he's in love with you or with someone he wants you to be.
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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:36am
 
While CH does NOT define who I am, face it, it's a huge part of my life. If my wife treated me like that, I would not have been able to stay married to her. He must be made to understand for a large percentage of us, CH is here to stay. If he wants you, it's a package deal, you AND your CH.

I'm with Brew. A third party could go a long way to opening eyes. Wishing you luck. Having someone who supports me through CH is the only thing that's gotten me through some of the dark times. Cry

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Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:40am
 
Thanks Guys, Ch.com has been my only shoulder. Maybe thats why I find myself coming back more & more.
Not for nothing, but I can't even get him to come to the site. Getting counseling would b a miracle.

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Reply #4 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:46am
 
My wife doesn't come on this site either.  She doesn't really get the bond that is created between us.  However that doesn't stop her from being a great supporter.  I couldn't get through this without her.

It sounds like he either a) doesn't want to understand or b) hasn't heard the message in terms he can internalize.

Brew's advice is good.  A third party could help with what I see as a communication problem.

Once he truly understands what is going on here, he has a decision to make.  And so do you.

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Reply #5 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:53am
 
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My fiance, who in the past I called my financial rock.  I guess has had it with everything. He has tried, I guess in his own way, to be supportive about my being sick. I directed him to this site last week & he has yet to take a look & not for a lack of time.

This morning he told me I "should just get a job & have my clusters there". What an not a very nice person. I was soooooo pissed & refused to fight with him (stress being a huge trigger 4 me), I went into the bathroom until he left 4 work.

I am so sick & tired of being sick & tired. I feel like I am just stuck in the corner of a room with no escape. How could anyone think that someone would WANT to have this fucking disease??????????????????
I wish that he could have it just for 1 day.

How do you handle/be with, someone like this??? I feel like packing it in, up whatever. And then what?? Go.........where??

Deb Cry


What if you had some other condition? Would he be that unsupportive? When you say he's tried in his own way to be supportive - how? They might be tough questions but when you love someone truly, you do what you must. 

It may be he's just scared of the whole situation since he's uninformed but if he refuses to educate himself - you might want to think about if you're really willing to put up with that permanently.  Why don't you print out some stuff for him to read, if you haven't already? Try this:

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Reply #6 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 12:02pm
 
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Brew nailed it. That needs to be rectified before any thought of marriage or long term relationship happens.
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Reply #7 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 12:04pm
 
And maybe a visit together to your Neuro will go a ways toward explaining the reality of CH to him.

There are plenty of hypochondriacs in the world and while it's awful to ponder, he may think you are exaggerating the scope of this evil beast.

I like the suggestion of printing out information from this and other sites.  If he won't come here for the information, perhaps the information needs to go to him.

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Reply #8 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 12:08pm
 
Deb,

I'm sorry that you are having a rough time.  It is hard enough to deal with CH without having to deal with comments like that! 

Is he like this all the time or is it possible that he was just having an off day?  CH takes a toll on supporters too.  I sometimes wonder what kind of supporter I would be if the roles were reversed at my house.

Just trying to see both sides... I sometimes say things I don't mean.  Maybe he did too.

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Reply #9 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 12:46pm
 
There is nothing worse than living the rest of your life with someone who doesnt understand CH , or even believe in them. My dear sweet hubby was nice enough to wake up last nite during my hit and get me a cold rag after i vomited, he went back to sleep immediately while i rocked back and forth moaning. My 10 year old son has CH. I am looking forward to him coming home from school today for a big hug. He and I "Get each other" on a level nobody will ever be able to understand.
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Reply #10 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 1:03pm
 
Before I was finaly properly Dx in early March of 2004,  I was involved with someone.  We had viewed and selected a home that we were going to put an offer on contingent on the sale of the condo he owned and was renting out.  He was going to move here, transfer his business here. 

Then in March, the beast morphed on me.  He had been aware of the the night time attacks, and me eating ibuprofin like candy during the day for what I know now were shadows, but that spring, I'd quit smoking and then the attacks were coming at night and during the day.  Anywhere from 3-5 attacks at first, then up to 6...then up to 8.

First saw a GP and was started on Relpax and neurontin.  Nothing.  The boyfriend was insisting on an MRI saying he thought I was having annurisms.  Cutting to the chase of the matter, finally the GP stumbled across CH information and called me at home on a Sunday night to tell me he thinks he figured this out.

Off to the Headache specialist at the hospital who confirmed CH after the MRI.  I found this site when he first mentioned it, and read all I could before seeing the specialist. 

The boyfriend, when learning that this was NOT an anurisum, nor anything else organically wrong started to tell me it was all my imagination. 

So while working with the secialist to try to get the CH under some modicum of control, 2 rounds of prednisone, imitrex injections, anti depressants, tomomax ect...the boyfriend turned to me one ay and says that I'm no longer the Pegg he knew and loved.  I'd changed, and he could no longer be with me.  He never accepted the doctors Dx, and he was angry because I wouldn't admit that this was just a temporary afliction and that a few days sleeping it off under high doses of serequil would put everything right again.

I even gave permission for him to talk to the specialist himself to no avail.  I was taking the word of a doctor, and advice from some "stangers on some website" over him.

Well...I'm still single if that gives you any indication of what I thought of that whole mess. 

Yes it hurt for quite some time.  But I came to realize that I was better off supporting myself and what I knew, than to have someone in my life who was unsupportive and undermining me every step of the way. 

I'd changed?  Damn straight I'd changed.  I learned there was no cure for what I had and there is a process of coming to acceptance with that.  I was heavily medicated and dopymax was stealing IQ points faster than I could blink.  I was tired, at the edge of my last nerve.  Frustration and anxiety was running rampant and I was off work with no income at all under doc's orders.

Damn tootin' I'd changed.  And for the better...without him.
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Reply #11 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 1:10pm
 
I'm with Pepp on this.  Those questions need answers for you to continue. 

My ex-husband was very mean to me when we first got married and he first went through a cycle with me.  That's until my chiropractor at the time told him "I have another patient that sufffers from CH, and her husband needs to put her in one of those crazy suits to render her arms useless, because the pain is so horrible she wants to hurt herself".  He got the message at that point that I just wasn't suffering from a tension headache. 

When I met my husband now and we had just started dating I sat together with him in front of the computer to make him well-informed of what I suffered from because I told him that CH comes with me, unfortunately. 

He was pretty scared the first time he saw me get hit, but somehow he stuck around anyway and I'm so proud to say he's my best supporter.  And I say i'm proud because I know it is not easy being a supporter. One supporter told me once that the feeling can best be described as "gut-wrenching" when watching her husband go through a CH. 

I hope it works out for you.  I would definitely print the "colleage letter" as Pepp mentioned and have him read it.  It's at least a beginning...maybe he may want to learn more after reading that.

Hang in there and keep us posted on how you're doing... Smiley

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Reply #12 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 1:28pm
 
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This morning he told me I "should just get a job & have my clusters there".


  This quote above...to me says "RED FLAG   RED FLAG   RED FLAG !!!

CH or not, this guy doesn't think very highly of you, and his attitude will spill over to other parts of your life together.
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Reply #13 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 1:48pm
 
Brew wrote on Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:22am:
Couselling. You're not even married yet and you're getting zero support from him. You need to find out soon if he's going to continue to offer you zero support so you can get out now. A couple's therapist will help you get to the root of that.

You need to find out if he's in love with you or with someone he wants you to be.


Good advice - it could be caregiver burnout, which can possibly be dealt with, or it could be a sign that your relationship is no longer healthy.  You need to find out which.
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Reply #14 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 2:09pm
 
i am with a few of the posters in wondering if he has been a good supporter for you but is burning out OR is the CH you too much for him to handle.  I have often said I would rather have CH than my wife have it, I think it is harder on supporters than those of us who have the headaches.

Your comment when you said you wish he could have Ch for 1 day says a lot too.  You are justifiably angry but that is even a bit too far for a loving relationship.  If counseling isn't an option and he doesnt want to learn more, you guys need to learn if you really love each other or not.  If you do, counseling is a smart option.  If not, I think it's time to move on.
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Reply #15 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 2:15pm
 
Great post Fram!

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Reply #16 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 2:49pm
 
FramCire wrote on Feb 20th, 2009 at 2:09pm:
i am with a few of the posters in wondering if he has been a good supporter for you but is burning out OR is the CH you too much for him to handle.  I have often said I would rather have CH than my wife have it, I think it is harder on supporters than those of us who have the headaches.

Your comment when you said you wish he could have Ch for 1 day says a lot too.  You are justifiably angry but that is even a bit too far for a loving relationship.  If counseling isn't an option and he doesnt want to learn more, you guys need to learn if you really love each other or not.  If you do, counseling is a smart option.  If not, I think it's time to move on.


I agree.  Very good point Fram.  I would not wish this on my worst enemy let alone someone I truely loved.

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Reply #17 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 3:28pm
 
Really sorry about the lack of support.  Having CH is tough enough but dealing with it all alone is really unfortunate.....especially when living with someone who is supposed to love and care about you.  It has to hurt your feelings.  Cry

I've been a supporter for my husband Blake for years.  Sure, it's hard sometimes but not nearly as hard as he has it.  If you could get him here there is support for the supporters too.

I guess the next step would be trying to figure out why is isn't supporting you.  Is it the CH that has him burned out or something else.  That's something you two have to work out.

Remember.....we're here 24/7 and always ready with a shoulder, kind word, understanding and advice.

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Reply #18 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 3:57pm
 

The hardest thing for a supporter to be a good supporter is to be able to UNDERSTAND what it is like for a CHer. A supporter can never actually feel the physical and emotional pain and the mental exhaustion a sufferer goes through but he or she can understand how terrible it is.

CH is such a rare condition that most people have never seen it, never heard of it and the degree of pain is so out of the norm that it is almost impossible for the average person to grasp what it is like.

That is why even doctors seem to fail to be compassionate and they are supposed to be knowledgeable.

It is much easier for the average person to be supportive of other common medical pain like a broken bone or even cancer, because the degree of pain is public knowledge. 

The second difficulty is how much an individual supporter can take. Some can take more and some can only take so much. Supporters themselves need to be supported, not by the CHer while in cycle, but by others, such as friends and relative and even maybe a counsellor. Supporters can certainly get burnt out if they dont look after themselves.

CHers have different styles of coping too. I know some clusterheads who would hide their hits and not share the full details of their condition with their loved ones and I know others ( like my late husband ) who look to their supporters for being their rock. As in any relationship, if one party's need is not met by the other, its a recipe for disaster, not just in relation to CH but everything.

I am really sorry to hear that your fiancee said something to you that hurt but when you feel a bit calmer, please consider this : you have all the people and support of this site, does your fiancee have any ? Do you know if he has friends or relatives whom he can talk to ?  I understand that you have asked him to come to this site, but he might have thought that if he comes here, all he will get is criticism about how unsupportive he has been to you. He might be scared that he wont have a chance to express his feelings. No one wants to go anywhere they feel they might not get welcomed. Maybe if you ask him to come talk to other supporters who can understand how hard it is and who can help him cope better with the whole situation, will be more enticing.

Unfortunately, we cant force anyone into understanding, caring or loving us. It has to come from their hearts. However, maybe if we show understanding first and make it easier for others to care for us, things will be better for everyone.

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Reply #19 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 4:08pm
 
Jackie wrote on Feb 20th, 2009 at 3:28pm:
Remember.....we're here 24/7 and always ready with a shoulder, kind word, understanding and advice.


I'm sorry you are struggling!  I pray that one day he will understand that you don't have a choice in this matter, and that he will soon be understanding of you and the situation.  I think if he actually stopped thinking about himself and came here and read some of the stories and testimonies, it would change his outlook.

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Reply #20 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 4:24pm
 
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I'll agree that as a supporter I've never felt the physical pain.  

However,  I've felt the emotional pain in spades and the mental exhaustion too.

Deborah,
There are a bunch of long time supporters here.  I'm sure that one of us would be more than happy to speak directly with him.  If that's an option or you think it might help, send me a PM and we'll see what we can do.  OUCH also has a Family Services Team that works directly with individuals.  Check out the OUCH website button on the left.

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Reply #21 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 4:47pm
 
Thank You annsie. Maybe you hit the nail on the head. He really does'nt have anyone to share all this crapola with. I have you guys & 2 close friends, who are very understanding.

Some of you guys make it seem so cut and dry. I've been in this relationship for 12 years. I have a lot invested. I love him with all my heart.And I know he loves me because he has put up me for so long.LOL

He just called & said how sorry he is for the things he said & that he knows Im in pain & will try 2B more understanding. WOW. Im giving him that letter tonight. On a plate. For dinner.

We all have our own charater & opinions and those of u who had a problem with me saying that" I wish he had it for one day", Im sorry I still feel that way. If thats what it took for someone to finally understand your pain, your really telling me that for a couple hours of life, to change your relationship forever, you would'nt do it???
I find that hard to believe. I actually said it to him on the phone, earlier today & you know what he said?? At least I'd be @ work.

Thanks for all your input. I think were in for a long, long talk tonight.

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Reply #22 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 4:57pm
 
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Thank You annsie. Maybe you hit the nail on the head. He really does'nt have anyone to share all this crapola with. I have you guys & 2 close friends, who are very understanding.

Some of you guys make it seem so cut and dry. I've been in this relationship for 12 years. I have a lot invested. I love him with all my heart.And I know he loves me because he has put up me for so long.LOL

He just called & said how sorry he is for the things he said & that he knows Im in pain & will try 2B more understanding. WOW. Im giving him that letter tonight. On a plate. For dinner.

We all have our own charater & opinions and those of u who had a problem with me saying that" I wish he had it for one day", Im sorry I still feel that way. If thats what it took for someone to finally understand your pain, your really telling me that for a couple hours of life, to change your relationship forever, you would'nt do it???
I find that hard to believe. I actually said it to him on the phone, earlier today & you know what he said?? At least I'd be @ work.

Thanks for all your input. I think were in for a long, long talk tonight.

Deb Shocked


Deb,

I hate to disagree here, so take this as just a loving dissenting opinion.  I pray my wife and children can never understand the pain I go through.  In fact I often try to lie to my wife about the severity of the pain to keep her from having to see me in pain but she can see it in my face so it is never effective.  I do apologize to her because being less then completely honest is not acceptable, but as I said, I do NOT want her to be able to understand.

When my wife was in labor with my first child, I was horrified at the pain she was in and I felt completely helpless to help her.  I even begged her to get an epidural.  Honestly, the supporters here severely UNDERESTIMATE the mental anguish they go through.  I will say it a million times, my wife suffers more with my CH than I do IM HO.

Anyway, he doesnt need to feel the pain to understand how bad it is.  He just needs to have a way to relate to it.  My wife has heard woman say it is more painful than labor, and since she has been in the delivery room enough times, she has a very good idea.

Anyway, his phone call is a good start.  make sure you present him with that letter in a loving way so that it does not become confrontational, since he already apologized.

Anyway, let us know what we can all do to help.  Many have offered specifics, I will be praying for you that your support system will continue to strengthen.
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Reply #23 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:01pm
 
You should strongly consider taking Jackie up on her wise words to come here for your support.

After taking a quick scan of CH.com's Support Board's first page, it's very telling.

Of the 24 or so threads started by supporters, all but one were by women.  That's not to say that there aren't a few men who visit here of their own volition to help their loved ones, but the ratio doesn't nearly reflect the ratio of men to women sufferers.

The women supporters here are great, so regardless of how your relationship turns out, you can count on regular support here.
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Reply #24 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:04pm
 
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Food for thought - sorry for the pun!
Glad he's apologized already so he will be more open.  Use the opportunity to point out that there are supporters who know what he's going through on this site, as well as what Jackie mentioned.  A good phone call from someone wonderful like that could be a key.

I hope its his fear talking and it's not a lack of love.  People say things they don't mean when angry or scared, which could apply to the both of you.

Good luck tonight ~  Smiley
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