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child birth vs the demon
Mar 26^th, 2009 at 5:44pm

This one is for all you ladies and I'm sure this has already been asked somewhere down the line. Here we go....! Is a kip 10 CH worse than giving birth to a 7lb or 8lb babino? Why i ask is even though my girlfriend is sooooo supportive and i couldn't get through it without her, she still loves her wee joke in which she waits till i finish my cycle then delivers it with a cheeky grin "STILL NOT AS PAIN FULL AS GIVING BIRTH" i was there when the kids arrived and it just didney look as bad as a big mad kip 10 CH. some feed back would be nice Lips Sealed

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Sean C CH.com Alumnus Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 123 Earth Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #1 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 6:09pm I've givin birth out of my right eye up to 10 times a day and I have the stretch marks to prove it
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Reply #2 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 6:10pm

now im no lady, but i was there when tracey had..little casey.....it took 18 mins...start to finish (no time for gas and air)...a few screams..a bit of pushing ..but done in 18 mins.
she was asleep 10 mins later....mmmmmmm

if she had up to six babies a day, for up to 3 months at a time.

then i would have to vote childbirth.

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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #4 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 6:28pm

I have only been an observer of clusters so I can't say but I have had two kids. Like CH, childbirth also varies in pain so I don't really think you can compare the two. I also had one of thos text book deliveries that lasted all of 2 hrs and only intense pain for 20 min but my first baby was 17 hrs of drug induced hard labor with a constant pitocin drip going, no epidural. I lost all of my water, baby was posterior, bladder was bruised when the doc came in with forceps and first APGAR was 1 out of 10. I think that has to compare to a Kip 10. I was in the hospital a week afterwards from the complications. The only difference is when my pain was over I had a baby.

I think we need to respect each others pain and not try to say which is worse. Both conditions need lots of compassion and understanding.

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Reply #5 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 7:46pm

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I think we need to respect each others pain and not try to say which is worse. Both conditions need lots of compassion and understanding.

Charlotte

I tend to agree with Charlotte. I remember my mom telling me that a mom forgot the pain of childbirth once she saw the baby. I think that's a crazy statement but now that my kids are 22 and 24, well, I can't remember.

Meanwhile, I also know that Joe's headaches are KIP=AWFUL and it's been awhile for one of those. For me to compare the pain, don't think I could.

I guess in terms of trying to describe CH pain to someone, making a broad statement of "Imagine the worst pain you've ever had - remember the intensity and the duration? My worst pain might be the same, might be more, but it comes in ___ frequency and lasts ____ long. It hurts." Maybe then they will get a glimpse of understanding.

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Reply #6 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 7:53pm

cash5542 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2009 at 6:28pm:

I have only been an observer of clusters so I can't say but I have had two kids. Like CH, childbirth also varies in pain so I don't really think you can compare the two. I also had one of thos text book deliveries that lasted all of 2 hrs and only intense pain for 20 min but my first baby was 17 hrs of drug induced hard labor with a constant pitocin drip going, no epidural. I lost all of my water, baby was posterior, bladder was bruised when the doc came in with forceps and first APGAR was 1 out of 10. I think that has to compare to a Kip 10. I was in the hospital a week afterwards from the complications. The only difference is when my pain was over I had a baby.

I think we need to respect each others pain and not try to say which is worse. Both conditions need lots of compassion and understanding.

Charlotte

Why so serious Charlotte...! This little banter i have with my partner

helps me get through this horrible infliction as for compassion and

understanding i was there when my better half give birth to our two

beautiful children, still have the kip 6 pain on my right hand to prove

it....! Just looking for a good come back, she's very quick....!

Sean c i must

remember that one."I've givin birth out of my right eye up to 10

times a day and I have the stretch marks to prove it " Good one...! Grin

Good health to all............ Wink

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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #7 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 8:37pm

Lefty wrote on Mar 26^th, 2009 at 5:44pm:

i was there when the kids arrived and it just didney look as bad as a big mad kip 10 CH. some feed back would be nice Lips Sealed

This is why I may have been so serious. You took childbirth pretty lightly. No one with CH would appreciate someone saying your Kip 10 didn't look too bad. I just get a little tired of comparing who's pain is worse. I'm sorry if I took it too serious.

Charlotte

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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #9 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:03pm Honestly I'd rather give birth once every 18 months instead of this crap. At least you get something good out of it!!
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #10 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:07pm Quote: Surely it can't be as bad as Man flu!! sniff Of course not! In all seriousness, it's relative to the persons' experiences.
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Langa CH.com Alumnus Offline So many donuts, such little time... Posts: 4754 x0\|\|USA\|usa\|0\|0\|NJ,New_Jersey Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #11 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:09pm I've been with 2 sisters during labor. I still say a kip10 is worse. Langa
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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #12 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:17pm

I don't really give a rat's patootie as to WHICH is worse! I don't care if it is clusters, migraines, childbirth, passing kidney stones, a broken bone or the worst pain in life, a broken heart ...

All I know is pain SUCKS!!

And if you are suffering from pain, whatever the cause or severity, I feel sorry for you, and wish you didn't have to suffer with it!

End of story!

Chuck, who hates to see sufferers

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cash5542 CH.com Hall of Famer Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1243 x1\|Ocean Pines\|USA\|usa\|498\|141\|MD,Maryland Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #13 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:26pm In Chuck's usual eloquent way, he hit the nail on the head! I totally agree with him; and in so many words this is what I was trying to say. Charlotte
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BMoneeTheMoneeMan CH.com Alumnus Offline In remembrance of KingCazman. RIP Posts: 2674 Portland, OR	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #14 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:37pm ClusterChuck wrote on Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:17pm: Chuck, who hates to see sufferers A simple hairbrush would end the suffering Chuck. Maybe even take a shower?
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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #15 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 10:38pm

cash5542 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2009 at 8:37pm:

Lefty wrote on Mar 26^th, 2009 at 5:44pm:

i was there when the kids arrived and it just didney look as bad as a big mad kip 10 CH. some feed back would be nice Lips Sealed

This is why I may have been so serious. You took childbirth pretty lightly. No one with CH would appreciate someone saying your Kip 10 didn't look too bad. I just get a little tired of comparing who's pain is worse. I'm sorry if I took it too serious.

Charlotte

Hi Charlotte,

I appreciate your reply and if you felt i was belittling child birth then i

apologise that was not my intention. The question i posted was more

tongue in cheek if anything.

Getting of the subject did you realise that your name begins with a

'

C

luster

H

eadache'.

Le gach dea-mhéin.... Lefty

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cash5542 CH.com Hall of Famer Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1243 x1\|Ocean Pines\|USA\|usa\|498\|141\|MD,Maryland Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #16 - Mar 26^th, 2009 at 11:05pm Yup, I realize it cause I'm often holding the cap key on the H by accident and having to go back and fix it. Charlotte
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midwestbeth CH.com Sponsor Offline Posts: 1123 Edwardsville, IL Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2009 at 12:20pm I've given birth three times. First time didn't hurt at all, the next two were not that bad, but, I would never tell another woman that childbirth doesn't hurt. All pain is subjective and I also hate to see anyone suffer from any type of pain.
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DennisM1045 CH.com Alumnus Offline One wave at a time! Posts: 3437 Haverhill, Massachusetts, USA Gender:	Re: child birth vs the demon Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2009 at 1:12pm I have 10 children. No matter how many times I've watched my wife go through it, I've never felt a thing... -Dennis- (who just can't seem to help himself today)
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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2009 at 1:25pm

DennisM1045 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2009 at 1:12pm:

I have 10 children. No matter how many times I've watched my wife go through it, I've never felt a thing...

-Dennis-

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And who is feeling quite brave...or more likely...quite sure his wife isn't going to be reading the board!!! Grin

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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #20 - Mar 27^th, 2009 at 1:47pm

So I do agree that pain is relative and different for everbody and all pain sucks regardless of the cause.

I had my last cycle when I was 5 months pregnant with my daughter and was unable to take anything to help. I think that my choice would be that the pain may actually be the same but as far as preference child birth would be my pick as being easier. Here is the only reason though. Child birth is more predictable and if you are lucky should be about a one day event. With CH it tends to seem never ending and not so predictable.

Just my opinion though........... I do not, however, say this so you can try to prove her wrong on who has it worse Wink

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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #22 - Mar 28^th, 2009 at 7:01am

Awww I remember it well -- 14 hours of horrific pain, screaming at Bill what I was going to do to parts of his body when it was over! Then it was over and they handed me a beautiful baby boy and yeah, there was some pain, but ... I had a baby...

Did I forget that pain -- well, not according to my kid. I've been telling him about it for the last 40 years and how hard it was to get him into this world

and that he should appreciate me more. But actually it's a distant memory.

CH - I don't get a baby out of and it just keeps coming back. No perks at all. But as Chuckles said, Pain of any kind just SUCKS!!!! Right now it's down to freezing here and Arthur(ritis) crawled in bed with me this morning... UGHHHH! I hate that guy!

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Re: child birth vs the demon
Reply #23 - Mar 28^th, 2009 at 8:48am

Labor any day, I have 2 kids, natural ( no nothing) woke up in hard labor I have been asked that but 2 top dr's. At least with labor you know it will end, hurts like hell but then you have a cute bundle of joy. With hits you know there is no ending, they may stop, for a few hours but you know they are coming back. But pain is pain.
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