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Jun 11th, 2009 at 9:54pm
 
This sickness is going to get worse until people with common sense start electing people with common sense.  The Obama administration is now requiring FBI agents to read Miranda rights to captured terrorists.  This is a complete 180-degree turn from previous statements made by the president recently on 60 Minutes, but what else is new…  He says he doesn't want to own GM or Banks...  but he does...

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Not to be out done making life difficult for and increasing the risk to our fighting men and women deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the world keeping us safe from Islamic extremists, there’s princess Pelosi and her politburo.

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Call, write, fax, and email your Congressmen…  Advise them to seek employment elsewhere come reelection time if they continue to support idiots who do things like this or vote for progressive legislation like universal healthcare patterned after Medicare.

Remember…  Medicare does not cover oxygen therapy for cluster headaches…  Do not count on coverage if Obama gets his way with universal healthcare.

A good question to ask you Congressmen is this:  “Are you willing to give up your free medical care for life at military hospitals and facilities and accept universal healthcare?”

Now Obama is reverting back to his Chicago thug tactics... 

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama says he has lost confidence in the inspector general who investigates AmeriCorps and other national service programs and has told Congress he is removing him from the position.

Obama's move follows an investigation by IG Gerald Walpin of Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, who is an Obama supporter and former NBA basketball star, into the misuse of federal grants by a nonprofit education group that Johnson headed.

The IG's investigation must have had some merit in spilling the beans on Johnson's activities as Johnson returned over $800,000 in Federal grants...

Take care and BOHICA…

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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2009 at 10:08pm
 
The AMA has said they are opposed to this nationalized health care plan.
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The AMA's opposition to Medicare bordered on anarchy. Of course, it turned out to be the biggest cash cow for doctors that anyone could imagine. The level abuse of the system is stunning and the abuse is by the medical delivery system by not allowing stronger oversight. The AMA would never go back.

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Reply #3 - Jun 12th, 2009 at 6:02am
 
So far I've had no problems with medicare and it's WONDERFUL to finally have some insurance.

For those of us who've NOT be able to get insurance for years and years and have gone bareback and hoped against hope that nothing really bad happened it's wonerful to finally have insurance. I just can't see what the hullaballow is all about.

Without medicare and the VA I don't think my husband would have gotten the care he needed after his stroke. His medical bills ran into the unknown regions... The insuance we HAD (that cancelled on us) would have run out before it even reached the second year. If that's socialized medicine - then thank goodness for it.

For those who've had insurance - great. But for those of us who haven't - well, when the doc orders and test and you have to ask, "how much is that going to cost?" and then have to say, "I think I'll have to wait till I save up the money for it." it can get pretty bad. Can universal health care be worse than that?

For the past 15+ years I haven't been able to obtain insurance except occasionally at exorbiant fees (8-900 per month) so it's been cost prohibitive - now I can and if something happens I'm covered. So far I haven't had any trouble with O2.

I don't go to the doctor much, but now knowing that I can makes me feel a lot better.

Anyhow that's ONE opinion...

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Reply #4 - Jun 12th, 2009 at 8:23am
 
Barbara,
I have to agree with you (and Charlie).  If you have health care, any type of socialized medicine appears to be the 4 eyed monster.  If you don't have health care (or if you have the shit sarah has), socialized medicine looks wonderful.  There has to be a happy medium.  If you think socialized health care is so horrible, try giving up your insurance and using the charity system.  You just might rethink your stance.
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Now Obama is reverting back to his Chicago thug tactics...  

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama says he has lost confidence in the inspector general who investigates AmeriCorps and other national service programs and has told Congress he is removing him from the position.

Obama's move follows an investigation by IG Gerald Walpin of Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, who is an Obama supporter and former NBA basketball star, into the misuse of federal grants by a nonprofit education group that Johnson headed.

The IG's investigation must have had some merit in spilling the beans on Johnson's activities as Johnson returned over $800,000 in Federal grants...

So much for protecting whistle blowers...  They don't stand a chance if they blow the whistle on one of Obama's contributors...

Keep a watchful eye out on drive-by attacks by government media (NBC, ABC, CBS. etc.) on Safeway.  The Safeway CEO just laid out a compelling argument for affordable healthcare insurance Safeway already provides and he thinks he can cut costs further by 40%...  But it's only for non-union employees as the union types opted out of it...  See the following links:

WSJ- How Safeway Is Cutting Health-Care Costs

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Unfortunately, as great as the news the WSJ article presents on Safeway's lower cost health-care insurance...  It's bad news to Obama...  

Sooo... unless you start advising your congressmen to seek employment elswhere unless they stop this madness, watch very carefully as Obama and the idiots in Congress tax the crap out of the Health-care benefits your employer presently provides to pay for his socialist inspired Universal Health-care...

Take care and watch out for more BOHICA from Obama and the rogue congress run by Pelosi and her politburo.

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Good people of clusterville,

I wasn't kidding when I said BOHICA...

June 12 (Bloomberg) -- Health-care overhaul legislation being drafted by House Democrats will include $600 billion in tax increases and $400 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said.

Barbara, if you thought Medicare was good...  Don't hold your breath...  It looks like it's going to take a hit.  I've got it too and this is BAD NEWS!

Please keep sending your cards, letters, faxes, and email to your idiot congressmen who are voting for this piece of crap!  Advise them to seek employment elsewhere come reelection time if not before...

Take care and...  BOHICA

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Reply #7 - Jun 12th, 2009 at 11:44pm
 
Well, I'm very skeptical at what will come out of Washington on health care. I have Medicare and so far, I like it. It's not perfect and mostly because all those wonderful private insurers have their hooks into it. For now, I have state help with drugs too.....and not that lunatic Bush mess that serves drug companies, not us.

Anyway, Isn't it sweet that drug companies, insurers, and health care providers are camping out all over Washington offering to help out with coming up with any health care plan......How lucky can we get?

I suppose it would be blasphmey to point out that these benevolent types are more interested in saving their sweet little asses by making sure that any serious attempts will take the better part of a decade to have much of an effect on their little world. These evil bastards are there to keep as much of the status quo as possible. No matter what they say, they are not on your side. It makes my blood boil.

There was a short time, Barb when I had no health coverage and had no way to come up the $310 cost per prescription for my anti-convulsant. I spent weeks trying to get a drug company to put me on one of their assisted programs. I had to use it only once thanks to Medicare. What a Godsend Medicare has been. I'd hate to be the one who votes to weaken the system. Yikes.

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Reply #8 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:01am
 
Look, I'm not the brightest light on the tree, but all these problems we're having right now didn't start this year.... and they're probably not going to get settled this year.

I've been upset with our government (and writing complaining) since they told me I HAD to wear seat belts!

Those silly people in Congress (not just a few but ALL of them) need to sit down and LOOK at what they've done! We've got INSURANCE companies practicing MEDICINE in this country NOT doctors. That needs to be STOPPED! Pharmacutical companies are spending a fortune ADVERTISING new drugs! That needs to be stopped! (That's a lot worse than advertising cigarettes and booze). Doctors order things and the insurance companies have to PRE-approve (second guess) that order - that needs to be stopped! People are dying because of it.

Back in 68 when I had my son, I took VITAMINS while I was pregnant, didn't know what I was having until he was born (then lost a $10 bet to the doc cause I swore he was a girl) and had a perfectly healthy baby - out of pocket cost $250. My kids are having a baby now and have had at least 100 tests for all kinds of stuff and I don't even want to know how much they've spent. For what - they're having a BABY for goodness sakes! And of course they already know it's a boy and have him named. Is this "common sense" or is this COST OVERRUN?

I don't know the answer to cutting medical costs, but I do know that until we let doctors start practicing medicine again - the costs are NOT going down. I'm a BIG proponent of getting rid of lobbist in DC and keeping them OUT! But I guess that's how those guys in Congress support themselves....

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deltadarlin wrote on Jun 12th, 2009 at 8:23am:
Barbara,
I have to agree with you (and Charlie).  If you have health care, any type of socialized medicine appears to be the 4 eyed monster.  If you don't have health care (or if you have the shit sarah has), socialized medicine looks wonderful.  There has to be a happy medium.  If you think socialized health care is so horrible, try giving up your insurance and using the charity system.  You just might rethink your stance.


My husband, Tarey, and I are in both situations.  He has Medicare (finally) and I have the shit policy, like Sarah.  There was a time when we both had nothing - every dime was out of our pocket.

We thank God that Tarey is on Medicare right now, because he had a hernia operation (paid by Medicare), is being treated for high blood pressure (drug cost $4.00 per bottle of pills) gout ($4.00 per bottle of pills), high cholesterol ($4.00 per bottle of pills), and the biggie, almost total hearing loss in his right ear ($30.00 co-pay to the specialist). 

God bless Medicare.

On the other hand, there's me.  I have a shit policy that pays for absolutely nothing unless I am "admitted" to the hospital - in other words, catastrophic care.  There is nothing for doctor's visits, drugs, lab tests, even outpatient surgery - not one dime.  What's the average cost for a simple visit to your GP?  $100???  If I'm admitted, I have a $5,000 deductible.  Because of my pre-existing conditions, I have NO coverage at all, even if admitted to a hospital for my knees, legs, back, and CH.  If I get in a car wreck, my knees, legs, back are damaged.  Tough shit - no coverage.  For this lovely policy, I am paying $400 a month - just for me. 

I don't want to call it socialized medicine, but God bless anything that helps me.

Without Medicare, I have can't imagine how much we would have had to pay out of pocket for Tarey's expenses, living on his Social Security, and my 42% reduction in salary.  We are watching our spending very tightly.

I'm actually frightened because I trust not a single one of our Senators or Congressmen/women.  Everything done by our government has nothing whatsoever to do with what's "good for the citizens" yet EVERYTHING to do with partisan politics.

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Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 12:55pm
 
Sandy,

Anything that happens in a car accident should be covered by your auto policy.  If you don;t have any med coverage on it it can be added for a very small amount.  Talk to your agent or look at your policy to see.  If you are hit by someone else you are covered by his policy (unless you live in Aurora where half don't bother with insurance).

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    Medicare and Medicad are going to take hits again, if VanderObamaSki has his way.

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Broken promises: Reservations lack basic care

Health clinics don’t have enough money to deal with high rates of disease


CROW RESERVATION, Mont. - Ta'shon Rain Little Light, a happy little girl who loved to dance and dress up in traditional American Indian clothes, had stopped eating and walking. She complained constantly to her mother that her stomach hurt.

When Stephanie Little Light took her daughter to the Indian Health Service clinic in this wind-swept and remote corner of Montana, they told her the 5-year-old was depressed.

Ta'Shon's pain rapidly worsened and she visited the clinic about 10 more times over several months before her lung collapsed and she was airlifted to a children's hospital in Denver. There she was diagnosed with terminal cancer, confirming the suspicions of family members.

A few weeks later, a charity sent the whole family to Disney World so Ta'shon could see Cinderella's Castle, her biggest dream. She never got to see the castle, though. She died in her hotel bed soon after the family arrived in Florida.

"Maybe it would have been treatable," says her aunt, Ada White, as she stoically recounts the last few months of Ta'shon's short life. Stephanie Little Light cries as she recalls how she once forced her daughter to walk when she was in pain because the doctors told her it was all in the little girl's head.

Ta'shon's story is not unique in the Indian Health Service system, which serves about almost 2 million American Indians in 35 states.

On some reservations, the oft-quoted refrain is "don't get sick after June," when the federal dollars run out. It's a sick joke, and a sad one, because it's sometimes true, especially on the poorest reservations where residents cannot afford health insurance. Officials say they have about half of what they need to operate, and patients know they must be dying or about to lose a limb to get serious care.

Wealthier tribes can supplement the federal health service budget with their own money. But poorer tribes, often those on the most remote reservations, far away from city hospitals, are stuck with grossly substandard care. The agency itself describes a "rationed health care system."

The sad fact is an old fact, too.

The U.S. has an obligation, based on a 1787 agreement between tribes and the government, to provide American Indians with free health care on reservations. But that promise has not been kept. About one-third more is spent per capita on health care for felons in federal prison, according to 2005 data from the health service.

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KingOfPain wrote on Jun 14th, 2009 at 1:06pm:
Broken promises: Reservations lack basic care

Health clinics don’t have enough money to deal with high rates of disease


a charity sent the whole family to Disney World so Ta'shon could see Cinderella's Castle, her biggest dream. She never got to see the castle, though. She died in her hotel bed soon after the family arrived in Florida.




stimulus legislation: a little of the overstuffing.

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Reply #14 - Jun 14th, 2009 at 9:39pm
 
Interesting posts kids. Steven King couldn't come up with a horror story more bizarre than our health care system.  It's stunning.

Wall Street (you know how well they do things lately) loves our present system. For profit hospitals...something fairly new as a rule, clinics, and health care system manufacturers have been making billions since medicine has become more and more market oriented. A whole new volcabulary has had to be developed. Patients are now "consumers," and doctors are now "providers."

Thanks to a lobbying culture that's dwarfs any other, it's not politically feasible for Congress to vote for a single payer system. Naturally the GOP is using the old socialized medicine tactic. It's not of course. No one will be forced to use only approved doctors or stand in line. That's a fear tactic. You can use your current insurance if you like. The only thing that is socialistic is that the  government handles payment to them. It's a huge battle that is exists because of the mountains of cash from drug and medical lobbyists for anyone who will vote against reform.

Just an aside: As of 2004 less than 29% of doctors are members of the AMA. It's purpose has changed and gets paid by drug companies and the like to oppose any change in the status quo.

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Call it whatever you want, Charlie.  You're old enough to have the luxury of not worrying about what this system will look like later on... good for you.

I think the people shouting 'socialized medicine' as a scare tactic have it half right.  Anyone who believes that a single payer system can co-exist with private insurers and preserve the freedom of choice we currently enjoy is smoking crack.  The current system is broken, and apparently that means we are obligated to do whatever the anointed one says we must do.

Once we have a single payer, every aspect of medical care will be under the full control of the government.

What treatment can you get?
What medicines will be researched?
What procedures will be eliminated?
Since your over-eating costs all of us money, how long before our very behaviors are legislated as part of the greater good?
Is it 'fair' that any money be spent on a disease like CH when it only affects a tiny percentage of people?  The greater good will be served by letting that tiny population suffer while we spend that money on something that helps *everybody*.
How long before doctor's pay is limited by Obama?  Nah, he'd never do anything like that.
How long before cost-benefit analysis shows that medical care for seniors isn't 'fair' to the rest of us?

Oh, I' m sure none of that would ever happen.
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Good people of Clusterville,

Here’s a little light reading from the proposed US NATIONAL HEALTH CARE (USNHC) PROGRAM legislation you might just find a lot more than just interesting.

TITLE I--ELIGIBILITY AND BENEFITS


SEC. 101. ELIGIBILITY AND REGISTRATION.

(a) In General- All individuals residing in the United States (including any territory of the United States) are covered under the USNHC Program entitling them to a universal, best quality standard of care. Each such individual shall receive a card with a unique number in the mail. An individual’s social security number shall not be used for purposes of registration under this section.

COMMENT:  That means you are going to be paying for the health care of all unregistered foreign nationals and all illegal aliens residing in the United States.  Read on to see how they weasel this eligibility requirement.


(b) Registration- Individuals and families shall receive a United States National Health Insurance Card in the mail, after filling out a United States National Health Insurance application form at a health care provider. Such application form shall be no more than 2 pages long.

COMMENT:  Want to believe registration by mail will never be abused?


(c) Presumption- Individuals who present themselves for covered services from a participating provider shall be presumed to be eligible for benefits under this Act, but shall complete an application for benefits in order to receive a United States National Health Insurance Card and have payment made for such benefits.

COMMENT:  "presumed to be eligible" Want to believe this will never be abused?


(d) Residency Criteria- The Secretary shall promulgate a rule that provides criteria for determining residency for eligibility purposes under the USNHC Program.

COMMENT:  And what do you think that criteria will be if not defined in this legislation?


(e) Coverage for Visitors- The Secretary shall promulgate a rule regarding visitors from other countries who seek premeditated non-emergency surgical procedures. Such a rule should facilitate the establishment of country-to-country reimbursement arrangements or self pay arrangements between the visitor and the provider of care.

COMMENT:  Hmmm...  This sounds like PAY GO.  We pay and they go home… and skip out on any remittance for their medical care.


Subtitle B—Funding

SEC. 211. OVERVIEW: FUNDING THE US NATIONAL HEALTH CARE (USNHC) PROGRAM

(a) IN GENERAL.—The USNHC Program is to be funded as provided in subsection (c)(1).

(b) USNHC TRUST FUND.—There shall be established a USNHC Trust Fund in which funds provided under this section are deposited and from which expenditures under this Act are made.

(c) FUNDING.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—There are appropriated to the USNHC Trust Fund amounts sufficient to carry out this Act from the following sources:

(A) Existing sources of Federal Government revenues for health care.
Read Medicare and Medicaid take a hit!


(B) Increasing personal income taxes on the top 5 percent income earners.  
Read redistribution of wealth!


(C) Instituting a modest and progressive excise tax on payroll and self-employment in come.  
Read a new tax that all will pay.  Obama will claim he didn't lie...  Congress did it!


(D) Instituting a small tax on stock and bond transactions.  
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If the idiots in Congress want to tax something that desperately needs taxing, they can start by taxing the flow of capital out of the US by non-US Citizens and foreign nationals to their homelands.

A 2003 report found the following annual transfers of funds out of the United States:

Regionally, Latin America and the Caribbean received the lion share of remittances in nominal terms with $25 billion followed by South Asia with $16 billion (2002). Relative to GDP, however, South Asia was the largest recipient with remittance receipts amounting to 2.5% of GDP.

Flows of US dollars to East Asia and Pacific with 14% of global remittance receipts and Sub-Saharan Africa with 5% are dwarfed by those to the other regions.  Especially for Africa, however, this picture is heavily skewed by underreporting or complete lack of data; close to two thirds of Sub-Saharan African countries lack data.

COMMENT:  If the idiots in Congress are willing to tax employer provided health care benefits, they could surely tax the flow of money leaving the United States to other foreign countries

Take care and don’t let a day go by without sending your Congressmen a call, fax, or email...  Advise them to seek employment elsewhere if they keep up this stupidity.  They swore to protect us from enemies both foreign and domestic...

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Reply #17 - Jun 15th, 2009 at 7:11pm
 
So far so good.

This sounds a lot like the Clinton health care plan that was so complicated that it never got to the floor.

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Reply #18 - Jun 15th, 2009 at 8:10pm
 
Charlie,

For your sake, mine, and anyone else on Medicare or Medicaid, I pray this most recent attempt at a single payer National Health Care plan meets the same fate as HillaryCare going down in defeat.  

If the more than $1.2 Trillion dollar price tag isn't enough to gag a maggot, the over $313 Billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid coverage to offset the expense of the present National Health Care legislation will be very painful.  If that's not bad enough, if they pass the carbon tax to pay for universal health care and other socialist agenda programs thanks to the Cap in Trade legislation, that will increase your energy bill by well over the increase in co-pay required by the cuts in Medicare and Medicaid...

But...  It's not all bad news...  If universal health care is passed, well over 10 million undocumented and illegal aliens (read non-US citizens residing here in the United States) will still be eligible for free health care under this legislation...

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"But...  It's not all bad news...  If universal health care is passed, well over 10 million undocumented and illegal aliens (read non-US citizens residing here in the United States) will still be eligible for free health care under this legislation..."

They're aleady getting free health care.  It's called the emergency room.  That's why so many hospitals are going broke.
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Spot On Deltadarlin!!!
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Something else to look at changing.
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BarbaraD wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:01am:
Those silly people in Congress (not just a few but ALL of them) need to sit down and LOOK at what they've done!


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They're aleady getting free health care.  It's called the emergency room.  That's why so many hospitals are going broke.


While I'm not happy about illegals getting health care, they are not why hospitals are going broke. It's because they have as little power in getting a fair shake from insurance companies as we and they suffer greatly when entities like Hospital Corporation of America send in efficiency experts to trim budgets and literally starve nurses and staff of needed money to maintain services. The bottom line trumps the ability to provide the best care. It's why they charge $17 for an aspirin but it doesn't even register as a way to deal with them....of course, like me in the fall last year, people have a hard time paying their bills.

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Charlie,

You're right... Medical insurance costs are too high and that's hurting not only hospitals but everyone else up and down the medical food chain including us. Unfortunately you're pointing at the wrong culprit in singling out the evil medical insurance companies.  

The real problem is Mandated Benefits levied by the States and the Federal Government...  In 1965 there were 7 medical insurance mandates...  today there are over a thousand.

So, if you want to point at the culprits, first look in a mirror and point at yourself for electing a bunch of social progressive idiots on both sides of the isle, then turn your attention to the idiots presently in your State Assembly and the bigger idiots in the US Congress...  

These are the same lawyer idiots that have stonewalled medical tort reform and who have failed to uphold public law dealing with the capture and deportation of illegal aliens. They've also allowed over 13 million illegal aliens to suck up free health care at our expense from it's most expensive source, the ER... and... drop anchor babies along the way that cost us hundreds of millions to boot...

What is just as disturbing is these idiots have levied mandates on all private medical insurance companies to cover nonmedical expenses such as hairpieces and humarounds.  Then there's mandates covering treatments for drug and alcohol abuse, pastoral and marriage counseling, infertility treatment, mental health parity, which requires insurers to treat mental illnesses like physical illnesses and many more...  

Of course you can argue some of these are valid things a medical insurance company should cover in your policy...  and you could ask for them with a commensurate increase in your policy premiums.  Unfortunately these mandates apply to all medical insurance policies like'm or not!

Assuming that a mandate-free, basic health insurance policy costs a family about $3,500 a year, the latest 12 mandates about to hit the street will add 15% to 30% or $525 to $1,050 more a year...  That's if they stay in business after Obama's massive health care black hole passes.

The private medial insurance companies have no choice...  They are required by law to include these mandates and that drives up the cost of the medical insurance premiums...  for all of us...

People should have a choice... but the idiots in Congress think we're dumb and they know better how to spend our medical insurance dollars... and voters have let them do it.

Soooo...  You can thank the idiots in government for this very expensive crap sandwich...  Not the insurance companies...

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Speaking of choice... please choose to elect people with common sense and tell your existing idiot congressmen to seek employment elsewhere come election time.  

These idiots have already let the Apologist in Chief cut over a $1 Billion out of our strategic defense systems just when the DPRK lights off another underground nuclear weapon and launches ballistic missiles that will soon have the range to reach us here in the States, then turns around, pulls the ban on the GITMO photos and on top of that, tonight they just voted to give away $5 Billion to the IMF when we don't have it to give away...  They're insane and they're spending us into generational debt.

Take care, that may be one of your few remaining freedoms...

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