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Flatty
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New guy, can this be a CH?
Jun 28th, 2009 at 6:29pm
 
I am generally is great shape, however lately I have been getting some SERIOUS headaches.  Last night I commented to my wife that the headaches come at the EXACT SAME TIME every day.  The headaches radiate around my right eye, and only on my right side.  Last night I actually wrote down exactly where the pain was so that I can research it today.  Most of the pain is in the right eye socket/head.  I get pain in the right side of my jaw, as well as the right side of my neck.  I woke up with this about 2 months ago at 4am.  I have a HIGH tolerance for pain, but I was literally crying from this pain.  I called in sick thinking this was a migraine, and it would go away.  It did go away for about a month, and then they came back.  I have had this pain almost daily for the past month.  Almost like clockwork at 11pm.  I am scared to even close my eyes. 

I have 2 bulging disks in my neck (I figured this was causing the pain).  My dr prescribed STRONG painkillers for my neck pain (I rarely take them, and just deal with the pain).  When I got these headaches the first time, I took 3 of these, and it did nothing to help me. 

I don't know if I get the droopy eye, but I do get all the other symptoms.  I have not gone to the hospital (or a dr) for this pain yet.  I am a little scared at what they may tell me. 

PLEASE help me... 
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Re: New guy, can this be a CH?
Reply #1 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 8:31pm
 
See the "cluster quiz", left side of this page. It will help.

However, because there are so very many types of headache and they can mask other serious disorders, it's essential you find a specialist to sort thru your situation.

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box.  Call 1-800-643-5552; they will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.
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If you suspect Cluster, this article is an excellent starting point to learn:

 
Cluster headache.
From: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Re: New guy, can this be a CH?
Reply #2 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 8:54pm
 
Gotta go to the doc and demand a referral to a neurologist. Quickly.
Caffeine, energy drinks, fast cardio exercise till then. These will abort the headache but it will come back unless treated with a transitional and preventative drug.
all the best
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Re: New guy, can this be a CH?
Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 3:25pm
 
Thanks for the heads up.  I had an appt with a new primary care for the 27th of July.  I called her today and told her waht was going on.  She got me in today!!!!  Last night wa another one with maybe 3 hours of sleep.  I even tried to go to sleep before igot the headache.  I fell asleep but woke up at 11pm like clockwork.  All I want is some sleep now!!!  I even tried a preventative painkiller at 8pm so that it would be in full force when the pain hit...  It dulled the pain a SMALL amount.  I am going CRAZY!!!!

Thanks for the help
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Re: New guy, can this be a CH?
Reply #4 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 3:37pm
 
My symptoms are almost identical to yours... all on the right side... temple throbbing, nothing helps... pain excruciating... I was just diagnosed CH last week... beginning treatment... a bit better now on 6th day of steroids.  Hope you get the proper diagnosis.  Insist upon a neurologist.  -Dev
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Re: New guy, can this be a CH?
Reply #5 - Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:02am
 
Hi Flatty,

I hope you don't have CH. It sucks!

I'm in my second cycle, and just met with my GP.  Read and print articles from this board, ESPECIALLY OXYGEN!!!  Bring it to your GP.

Mine started me on Prednisone and Gabapentin.  Pred short term help, Gab long term.  The Pred is messing with me a little but has helped cut my attacks big time.  The O2 is a miracle.  Stopped my pain in less than 10 minutes the other night.

Read and learn from the posts on this board.  They have really helped with the pain and the "Am I crazy" issue.
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