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WTF O.U.C.H. ?? (Read 10467 times)
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Reply #75 - Jul 6th, 2009 at 6:02pm
 
If I started quoting everybody I wanted to, I'd have too many windows open  Wink.

Eric,
I agree, set a fee and then let the members who have paid memberships have voting rights.

Chuck,
That's not a bad idea.  I don't think it would be mandatory to determine everything at this meeting.  However, discussion needs to begin somewhere.

Also, as far as the discussion area, pattern the rules after what DJ set up for the board.

BobP
A cure would be wonderful, but in the meantime, getting the message out to everybody would be second to a cure?

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Reply #76 - Jul 6th, 2009 at 7:17pm
 
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I always felt that there are so many voices yet it always appears that the majority only come out to protest or bitch when something happens.


As Don said....Bingo.  !!!!!!


Chris (purpley dog)   yes, that is exactly what Jim was trying to convey before it got twisted regarding corporations such as AAA and others. 

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Reply #77 - Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:01pm
 
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(shut up Don)


Its been so long!!!!  (sniffle)

I would also suggest that a certain someone return the OUCH yacht that went missing long ago. Theres no place in OUCH for pirates and privateers.
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Reply #78 - Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:11pm
 
seaworthy wrote on Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:01pm:
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(shut up Don)


Its been so long!!!!  (sniffle)

I would also suggest that a certain someone return the OUCH yacht that went missing long ago. Theres no place in OUCH for pirates and privateers.


But I was told YOU have it. That's where I thought you have been this whole time.

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Reply #79 - Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:38pm
 
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But I was told YOU have it.


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Reply #80 - Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:55pm
 
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Jim, can you ensure OUCH knows of these options for LouCon?

Deej


My knowing about these sites, or the Board of Directors (BoD) knowing, is of little value.  As I stated before I do not have the technology nor will I have the availability to handle the broadcast.  I don’t believe that any of the BoD attending will have the technology either.  I have ask that an attendee with the expertise to make it happen – volunteer by contacting me.  No one yet.  Here is my personal email – Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register .  Without someone to make it happen it will be hit and miss AT BEST by whatever attendees do individually.

The ideas and suggestion for delaying any vote until after the convention and providing an input message board on OUCH has some merit.  BUT – a word of caution – in the past discussion has often been substituted for making something happen.  (As in – IF we keep talking and changing the subject we won’t have to accomplish anything because we are too busy and we can complain that nothing is getting done.)

I wish to thank those of you that have been participating in this discussion.  I stated in my earlier post that errors and omissions have been made and there is plenty of adjustment needed.  It is now the task of you OUCH members to look forward.  If you want an OUCH that has limited tasks, such as only: ‘An informational based website’ or ‘A pool of members for surveys and test trials’ that will not take much of a structure or BoD to manage.  If you wish it to do more then the leadership (BoD) must have the expertise to fulfill the mandate. 

As a nonprofit corporation ‘all BoD members must be unpaid volunteers’.  It is the law.  The volunteers that serve on the BoD do not have to be CH sufferers or supporters.  But they (should be/must be) members of the organization; AND (as stated by every nonprofit consulting, educating or monitoring body) should be financial contributors to the organization each year.  It makes them have a vested interest in what the organization does with their dollars and everyone else’s.  They should also have an interest in the organization and a strong desire to make things happen. 

I would hope that one of the outcomes at this convention is the identification and possible recruitment of talented individuals to serve on the BoD or one of the projects or committees THAT ARE DEMEED TO BE RELEVANT. 

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Reply #81 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 8:08am
 
I am currently working on getting more information on ustream.tv.  I have two friends, both of whom have used this and are willing to help me with the set-up.  The one I really need to talk to is on vacation in Austria, so when I can talk to him, will let everyone know more.
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Reply #82 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 8:12am
 
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The one I really need to talk to is on vacation in Austria, so when I can talk to him, will let everyone know more.

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Reply #83 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 9:00am
 
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To be discussed:  
Should OUCH continue to operate?

OR.. How should OUCH continue to operate?


I am for continued operation in a survival mode.


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The Options -
   1) OUCH could continue as in the past.  
   2) OUCH could try to reorganize.  
   3) OUCH could shut down.



Reorganize similar to this fashion, for now.

jwelch wrote on Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:55pm:
If you want an OUCH that has limited tasks, such as only: ‘An informational based website’ or ‘A pool of members for surveys and test trials’ that will not take much of a structure or BoD to manage.


That is an accomplishment and should be retained.  I wouldn't consider option 3, shutdown.

In Autumn the National Geographic presentation will be shown.  This has been one goal all along.  Opportunity could knock and someone should be there to answer.  An idea, insight, or direction may rekindle interest if we keep the embers glowing.  In any event, it would be nice if a letter of thank you came from OUCH, even with many members being able to include their name.  An inspiring thanks also to the research facilities and persons for continuing their work, positive feedback with a very interested hand.

Agreeably, if we don't, who will.

Bob P wrote on Jul 6th, 2009 at 1:20pm:
Research!

I think that should be the main goal of OUCH, support and participate in research.  

Talk with the researcers to find out what we can do.  Limit OUCH's efforts to that.

I'd like to see OUCH continue





If plying option 1, these items should be laid on the table first:

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There have been lots of proposals, suggestions, ideas and starts...


With these items being made known to all, it may be that someone's interest could be instilled to pick up the ball on one of them.  Any new and other items submitted at convention discussion or at any time.

jwelch wrote on Jul 6th, 2009 at 9:55pm:
They should also have an interest in the organization and a strong desire to make things happen.


I'd believe there is interest and desire, but at this time a focus perhaps less unified to be absorbing.  Bob P seems to allude similar and Michael (wildhaus) mentioned.




Hey again, Don!   Cool
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